Rimu recently started a new rant thread. I copied the response of the person they had targeted and in less than a minute Rimu had deleted the comment.

This is the comment Rimu did not want people being able to see:
https://feddit.uk/post/53824748/26875911

This is the thread I shared it on:
https://feddit.uk/post/53824747

PTB, but it’s Rimu so what can you expect?

Wait piefed has a secret shadowban list too?

Did they learn nothing from Tessaract?

Apparently not, or maybe they just think they can get away with it.

It does have a list of instances it defeds from by default, but quokka isn't on it.

Piefed did add the ability to 'silence' instances which hides posts from those instances from the All feed, but posts from communities you subscribe to still show up. It's similar to Lemmy's 'hide community' feature. Quokka is on piefed.social's hidden instance list.

That feature was made to silence Quokk.au. Rimu added it only after he started melting down and having issues with everyone.

I'm not disputing that, he absolutely did, it's just not really similar to the Tesseract situation.

That’s fair. Even Rimu said the Tesserect dev went too far.

Rimu rehashing old drama?

What is the manchild trying to distract from now, did he invade Iran and fuck up or something?

Because they did and you can see the chat conversation where Rimu talks about trying to remove Mia’s attribution from the code and complaining it went through on some of them.

Man, I saw a single post from Rimu some months ago and pegged them as a scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds, censorious control freak totalitarian, months ago, blocked em.

Is this person like... actually important in some way, or do they just... loudly think that about themself?

They're a piefed dev/contributor or something?

the main author.

Rimu is not just instance-beefing, he's so salty he's going against the whole FOSS ethos just to be as petty as possible. PTB.

🤡

I fucking knew it.

“You can’t trust those commies who make Lemmy! I know, I‘ll put in secret censorship to protect others from that I think is wrong! I’m the savior of the world!”

You can feed this pie right up your ass 🖕

I don't see how people can still use piefed with someone like this in charge. A new red flag pops up every month. It's hard to see them among all the other red flags.

They say theirs is okay because the options show when setting up the system for admins 🙄

There's a number of negative things about the Lemmy devs as well. This isn't a whataboutism, or deflection. One of the lead Lemmy devs account is named for a genocidal dictator. I will give them acknowledgment and props for not perpetuating larger systems of oppression through software. Instead choosing to gleefully micro manage their own fiefdoms by hand doing it.

Point being if you're using the threadiverse, you're not going to find a major backend that isn't it developed by someone with a toxic relationship to power. And ultimately a tool is still a tool regardless of Who develops it.

Your comment is whataboutism and a deflection. Saying something isn't what it is doesn't make it any less is.

A genocidal dictator? Do tell, which one? Hitler? Netanyahu? Bush??

someone forked piefed, and Rimu uploaded their code without attribution AFTER patches were OFFERED to him and he blocked those patches and banned the PyLova devs.

but keep on being a parasocial asshat, cause anybody looking closely at the PyLova commit history is gonna see all the security vulnerabilities in Piefed we patched, and Rimu ignored.

good news, nobody who like Piefed has to use it. we've gotten PyLova to the point it's running Quokk.au and Anarchist.Nexus, and we've not only removed the censorship and the bias, but we've also improved the UI, made some new themes, and most important of all patched some security vulnerabilities.

at this point it's better than Piefed in every way.

Jean-Jacques Dessalines

No my comment was strictly with regards to you calling out users of a particular software. When it comes to rimu. 100% ptb unfortunately. I can't support the authors of Lemmy or piefed. But people are free to use whichever tools they choose in this instance. But good luck constructing that straw man.

Kinda weird that you don't mention the whole former slave who led the resistance to abolish slavery and free his country thing.

This has got to be the worst use of "straw man" I have seen on lemmy so far. And I've seen some bad ones.

Just a tip, you can't call every argument you don't like a straw man. It has a meaning.

Under the rule of Dessalines, Haiti became the first country in the Americas to permanently abolish slavery.

Do you even know the history of Haiti and why it is globally relevant? You CANNOT divorce that from the context of this.

I dunno that the original dessalines counts as genocidal, despite his attempts to rid haiti of whites. It was more or less a mass murder, and outright unnecessary since he had other options, but I don't know that genocide would be the right term for it? Maybe, I'm not fully convinced either way, just starting a tangent

That tangent is that the real dessalines was.... complicated. He essentially became a central figure in Haitian liberation. One can argue that the revolution might not have succeeded without him. He was certainly effective.

He was also effective as "emperor" (in quotes because it's hard to be an emperor of a single nation) for the most part. Made Haiti pitchy officially an independent nation, declared slavery abolished, stripped colonialists of property, and generally kept things running.

Of course, part of keeping things running was treating Haitians like slaves, just without the label.

Which shows both why the dev dessalines might have chosen the name, and why it doesn't really fit. Plus, you know, the whole emperor thing being contrary to socialism being weird.

Fwiw to anyone here for the tangent, there's been a goodly number of books about the real Dessalines. Likely available at your local library, or on the high seas. He was a fascinating figure.

Yeah, this is PTB.

You can't just shut down an otherwise on topic comment because you don't like it. I mean, you can, but if it's in this situation you're using your position to block dissent. That's literally what power tripping is.

The Tesseract rants did mention that Rimu should thank him for taking the heat off of him for his blocking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haitian_massacre first sentence.

Yes. And if he hadn't slaughtered his White allies. Or been so oppressive to his own people I would probably think he was a pretty decent guy. He wasn't. Like people in general he was a complicated and morally problematic person. How was slaughtering his white allies winning freedom for him and his people? Or do you view it as impossible to do wrong in pursuit of revolution?

What's the differences between PyLova and Lemmy? Why use it over Lemmy?

Just curious, but why not use Lemmy instead?

Actually, tesseract learned from rimu

Okay so, since you didn't quite understand it before:

do you view it as impossible to do wrong in pursuit of revolution?

That's a strawman.

More features, faster updates.

Rimu:

there's a lot of features that PyLova has that Lemmy does not.

PyLova has a lot more features than Lemmy does.

I saw the thread without context trying to defend their actions and I just laughed.

"Boy golly, I'm just so new to this FOSS thing!"

Like, I still don't really know the details, but this pattern has gotten old.

BPR - I tried to look at this from both points of view. Both parties have had beef in the past, so tempers are going to be quick on both sides.

Rimu could have done things differently, but AGPL is AGPL. There's no requirement to provide attribution unless the license is specifically modified. The PyLova license doesn't add that requirement from what I can tell. The creator(s) of PyLova are getting a little too upset about this, so it's a reasonable reaction to delete a comment that isn't really made in good faith.

If they would like attribution in the code, why don't they act like adults and reach out?

I didn't say any of those things, I am pointing out you are carrying water for european slavery empires by stripping the context.

If you cannot get over the individual to understand the context, your understanding of people and history will continue to be egregiously broken and myopic.

Most genocide is Mass murder. You are basically making an argument of ability and scope. Genocide is a genocide. And it doesn't even require murder all the time. Though generally it does include it.

The fact remains that not only did he target what had become a minority group on the islands and wipe it out. Basically genocide. Worse they had been allies fighting alongside him.

And the United States certainly weren't the good guys in the whole situation either. They did their normal thing showing up just long enough to kill a foreign leader. Even if the large portion of Haitian population desired is removal. It still doesn't excuse what France did afterwards and how America followed along buddy buddy enabling France.

Oh so that makes it okay that they rounded up all the white polish etc minority on the island that had fought alongside them. And then exterminated them? That's some moral relativism right there if I ever heard it.

I differentiate between the people of Haiti and their first self-proclaimed emperor. My sympathies lie with the people of Haiti. After fighting one revolution for their freedom. They had to turn and cooperate with bad faith actors like the United States. To assassinate their own ruler so they could actually have it. Only to then be fucked by France and the United States for the next Century afterwards.

Oh that totally justifies his genocide then.

Okay, see? That's a strawman. Now you know.