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it's been a while since i made one (or even thought about this) but here is my latest PrivacyPack list!
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blinfabian feddit.nl blinfabian@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-03
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Privacypack.org  Gmail -> Proton Mail Google Photos -> Nextcloud Memories Google Search -> Duckduckgo Opera GX -> Librewolf+Waterfox Whatsapp -> Signal None -> Signal + Joplin Onedrive -> Nextcloud Google paswords -> Proton Pass Microsoft MFA -> Aegis Google Calendar -> Nextcloud Calendar Play Store -> App Lounge None -> Mullvad VPN ChatGPT -> Duck.ai Google Maps -> Comaps Reddit -> Lemmy Google Pay -> Cash+iDeal Windows -> CachyOS Android -> /e/OS netflix -> Stremio+Jellyfin Microsoft Office -> Libreoffice
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Umay lemmy.ml Umay@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-08-13
#2 · Quote Reply

Very good for you! I can't change a lot of things cause, school, family, or i don't understand the tech behind it, but it's good to see other people protecting there own privacy!

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rikviergever lemmy.world rikviergever@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-06
#3 · Quote Reply

šŸ”„šŸ”„ Well done! It is a fun journey right :) I'm still enjoying discovering better alternatives

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TheTechnician27 lemmy.world TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-25
#4 · Quote Reply

Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

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James R Kirk startrek.website Kirk@startrek.website
Joined: 2025-03-01
Banned
#5 · Quote Reply

Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

I can't even find a repo to install it...

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Eideen lemmy.world Eideen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#6 · Quote Reply

Immich is a better alternative to Google Photo

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zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm sh.itjust.works zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-02-07
#7 · Quote Reply

Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

This is default store on /e/os

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zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm sh.itjust.works zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-02-07
#8 · Quote Reply

Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

https://doc.e.foundation/os/apps/app-lounge

https://gitlab.e.foundation/e/os/apps

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pHr34kY lemmy.world pHr34kY@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#9 · Quote Reply

Immich is a better alternative to Google Photo

I recently made the jump. It's crazy how much effort goes into optimising Nextcloud it still remains the most demanding thing on your server and your sanity.

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1800doctorb lemmy.world 1800doctorb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-25
#10 · Quote Reply

What’s your stance on Mullvad’s founder donating significantly to a far right political party in Sweden? Feels contradictory to why I use a VPN in the first place.

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nfreak lemmy.ml nfreak@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-03-18
#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

What’s your stance on Mullvad’s founder donating significantly to a far right political party in Sweden? Feels contradictory to why I use a VPN in the first place.

Yeah for this reason alone Mullvad should no longer be considered viable. IVPN seems promising, I plan to switch to them once my subscription runs out. I don't like how much they talk about being "politically neutral" but it's better than donating to nazi freaks I guess.

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n4sdaq lemmy.dbzer0.com n4sdaq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-06-13
#12 · Quote Reply

Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

I haven't heard of it either. Looks like it maybe has additional features built on top of Aurora Store. At first glance, App Lounge seems very unintuitive to install. I think I'll stick with Aurora Store for now.

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KaChilde sh.itjust.works KaChilde@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-08-31
#13 · Quote Reply

My only major change would be to remove Mullvad.

One of the founders has made major donations to far-right groups in Sweden. People have argues that it’s his money to donate, but if paying for Mullvad puts money into the pockets of a major donor to the far-right, I’d rather support an alternative provider.

I have had a very similar user experience with IVPN, and I have heard people suggest AirVPN as a similar alternative.

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vas lemmy.ml vas@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-08-12
#14 · Quote Reply

What’s your stance on Mullvad’s founder donating significantly to a far right political party in Sweden? Feels contradictory to why I use a VPN in the first place.

It is noteworthy that Mullvad did not donate any money to any political party.

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tirateimas lemmy.pt tirateimas@lemmy.pt
Joined: 2026-01-01
#15 · Quote Reply

It is a good list. Everyone will have their own personal preferences, but I think overall the list is good.

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Potato Lover šŸ’¾ No brain found lemmy.sdf.org user224@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-17
#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

My only major change would be to remove Mullvad. One of the founders has made major donations to far-right groups in Sweden. People have argues that it’s his money to donate, but if paying for Mullvad puts money into the pockets of a major donor to the far-right, I’d rather support an alternative provider. I have had a very similar user experience with IVPN, and I have heard people suggest AirV...

Oh, they upgraded the standard to 5 devices. I think it was just 2 in the past, which made it far more expensive than Mullvad.

Edit: One large thing missing compared to Mullvad is the proxy-based browser extension for Firefox. It let's you select different exit server either for everything in browser, per domain, or randomize server selection per domain.

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Maudelix lemmy.world maudelix@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-23
#17 · Quote Reply

My only major change would be to remove Mullvad. One of the founders has made major donations to far-right groups in Sweden. People have argues that it’s his money to donate, but if paying for Mullvad puts money into the pockets of a major donor to the far-right, I’d rather support an alternative provider. I have had a very similar user experience with IVPN, and I have heard people suggest AirV...

Why not Proton as well? The CEO is not any better.

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jello programming.dev jello@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-12-08
#18 · Quote Reply

Great job!! How are you liking /e/?

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RmDebArc_5 piefed.zip RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-06-23
#19 · Quote Reply

Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

Its the default of /e/os and only meant to be used with it. Its based on the Aurora library that allows access to google play apps and combines it with their own mirror of the main F-droid repo

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poke sh.itjust.works poke@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-10
#20 · Quote Reply

Why not Proton as well? The CEO is not any better.

They haven't donated to political parties, have they? That would have been big news I'm pretty sure I would have seen.

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iamthetot piefed.ca iamthetot@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-01-08
#21 · Quote Reply

They haven't donated to political parties, have they? That would have been big news I'm pretty sure I would have seen.

Not aware of donations, but Proton's CEO was glazing Trump around the start of his second term.

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4am lemmy.zip 4am@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-23
#22 · Quote Reply

Not aware of donations, but Proton's CEO was glazing Trump around the start of his second term.

Yes, claiming that the GOP was ā€œfor the little guyā€
And would do antitrust on big tech.

Some people are gullible as fuck, man. Anyway I would trust Mullvad over proton as far as privacy and security goes - it’s just too bad I don’t want my money going there.

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☭SaltyIcetea☭ lemmy.ml SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#23 · Quote Reply

im completely within the proton eco system, the only reason for my 2fa not being proton is because i made this choice before proton had a 2fa app and i didnt want to bother importing everything

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blinfabian feddit.nl blinfabian@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-03
#24 · Quote Reply

Great job!! How are you liking /e/?

i like it :3 the default launcher "bliss" is awful, but ive used lawnchair for a while and it was nice. now i switched to ion just to try it. but yeah, pretty much everything works as exected

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blinfabian feddit.nl blinfabian@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-03
#25 · Quote Reply

What’s your stance on Mullvad’s founder donating significantly to a far right political party in Sweden? Feels contradictory to why I use a VPN in the first place.

ive never heard of that before. if true, thats not good, but i still trust Mullvad's service as they were raided a couple of times and had nothing to show the police. bc of instances like that i still believe them to be very good for privacy. if more news comes of from their CEO doing sketchy stuff i might look for another VPN though..

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blinfabian feddit.nl blinfabian@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-03
#26 · Quote Reply

Immich is a better alternative to Google Photo

tried it, but i couldnt figure out how to add my existing photos in the way i had organised them: /year/event/photo.jpeg and nextcloud made it pretty easy

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steelplatedmech piefed.ca steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-07-22
#27 · Quote Reply

It is noteworthy that Mullvad did not donate any money to any political party.

Same could be said of Tesla, but the profitability of the company provided funds for Elon to donate to who he wanted.

I don't think business and founder separation is really possible.

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blinfabian feddit.nl blinfabian@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-03
#28 · Quote Reply

Having never heard of it and only used the Aurora Store (recently without any issues), what does App Lounge have going for it?

idk, its just aurora + f-droid imo. its just the default for /e/os phones

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blinfabian feddit.nl blinfabian@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-03
#29 · Quote Reply

šŸ”„šŸ”„ Well done! It is a fun journey right :) I'm still enjoying discovering better alternatives

its an awesome journey :3 for some of these its a real shame they're an "alternative" and not just the primary choice

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blinfabian feddit.nl blinfabian@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-03-03
#30 · Quote Reply

Very good for you! I can't change a lot of things cause, school, family, or i don't understand the tech behind it, but it's good to see other people protecting there own privacy!

yeah switching away from whatsapp is impossible. i only got my parents to switch lol

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Fredselfish lemmy.world Fredselfish@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#31 · Quote Reply

Have one for meetup?

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JoyfulCodingGuy lemmy.ml JoyfulCodingGuy@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#32 · (edited) Quote Reply

My only major change would be to remove Mullvad. One of the founders has made major donations to far-right groups in Sweden. People have argues that it’s his money to donate, but if paying for Mullvad puts money into the pockets of a major donor to the far-right, I’d rather support an alternative provider. I have had a very similar user experience with IVPN, and I have heard people suggest AirV...

As someone else started it's worth noting that Mullvad themselves did not donate to anything. I understand people's argument that money to Mullvad goes to the founder and thus goes to the people they donate to and that was people's argument for Proton as well. So do what you will as it's everyone's personal preference.

That's why lists like these, while useful for those who are just looking into privacy, deGoogle, etc. to first learn of projects and services, are almost always lacking nuance without text or all the major alternatives where then people can choose based on their beliefs. šŸ™‚

Note: I understand this is one person's list and not a general list but just stating my thoughts on the matter as a whole.

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Olgratin_Magmatoe slrpnk.net Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-12-19
#33 · Quote Reply

Anybody know of a good alternative to Google wallet? I've looked around on F-Droid but haven't seen anything.

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vas lemmy.ml vas@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-08-12
#34 · (edited) Quote Reply

Same could be said of Tesla, but the profitability of the company provided funds for Elon to donate to who he wanted. I don't think business and founder separation is really possible.

To be a bit nitpicky, Tesla has a load of shit reputation besides having a con artist and fascist CEO. Worker's rights abuse, accidents, false claims (lies-lies-lies).

Though it is true that Elon is *so* shit that buying Tesla would be no-go and shameful on my book even if the above wouldn't be true. So you have a point. Personally, I categorize it as Mullvad's founder being misled rather than genuinely corrupt and evil. But it's subjective, and I see and respect if people think differently.

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jim3692 discuss.online jim3692@discuss.online
Joined: 2024-09-07
#35 · Quote Reply

Anybody know of a good alternative to Google wallet? I've looked around on F-Droid but haven't seen anything.

I think it has been implemented in microG. Even this sounds weird to me. I wouldn't expect any bank to allow open source NFC card implementations, while blocking unofficial ROMs.

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atek lemmy.zip atek@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-08
#36 · Quote Reply

Anybody know of a good alternative to Google wallet? I've looked around on F-Droid but haven't seen anything.

Catima? Of maybe Walt in the future?

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Zombie feddit.uk Zombie@feddit.uk
Joined: 2024-06-01
#37 · Quote Reply

yeah switching away from whatsapp is impossible. i only got my parents to switch lol

The ignorant will never switch if even the informed don't make the move.

Delete it. Inform those you regularly contact that they can contact you via Signal, email, whatever, but that you don't have WhatsApp any more.

The only way to break the network effect of WhatsApp is to leave the network.

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Eideen lemmy.world Eideen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#38 · Quote Reply

tried it, but i couldnt figure out how to add my existing photos in the way i had organised them: /year/event/photo.jpeg and nextcloud made it pretty easy

Both Google Photo and Immich, treat all images individually. And assume that any grouping is done a Tag/ album level. Regardless of file name or hierarchy.

If you what to show your ā€œeventā€ in the UI, you would need to run a onetime script and amend album with the name of parent folder.

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Pirate2377 lemmy.zip pirate2377@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-20
#39 · Quote Reply

Why not Proton as well? The CEO is not any better.

Tbf, when it comes to email services at least, your only real alternative for Proton is Mailbox.org if you use IMAP/SMTP. When it comes to Mullvad, there's plenty of VPNs as an alternative. Plus, apparently Mullvad has lost talent in light of the controversy so their VPN might degrade in quality anyway, so there's also that

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Raptorox sh.itjust.works Raptorox@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-08-08
#40 · Quote Reply

Tbf, when it comes to email services at least, your only real alternative for Proton is Mailbox.org if you use IMAP/SMTP. When it comes to Mullvad, there's plenty of VPNs as an alternative. Plus, apparently Mullvad has lost talent in light of the controversy so their VPN might degrade in quality anyway, so there's also that

What about Tuta?

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Mnem667 sh.itjust.works Mnem667@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-15
#41 · Quote Reply

What about Tuta?

Tuta does not support the use of third-party email clients or the protocols IMAP/POP3/SMTP as we cannot guarantee end-to-end encryption of your data.

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Eggman thelemmy.club Eggman@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-07-05
#42 · Quote Reply

Anybody know of a good alternative to Google wallet? I've looked around on F-Droid but haven't seen anything.

Is it tab to pay you want or store tickets and membership cards in it.

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GotExx lemmy.ml GotExx@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-03-02
#43 · Quote Reply

iDEAL is Wero now šŸ¤—

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Olgratin_Magmatoe slrpnk.net Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-12-19
#44 · Quote Reply

Is it tab to pay you want or store tickets and membership cards in it.

I'm specifically looking for credit card storage. When I asked I forgot that Google wallet also does tickets and membership cards.

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Olgratin_Magmatoe slrpnk.net Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-12-19
#45 · Quote Reply

Catima? Of maybe Walt in the future?

Catima seems really solid. I'll probably be using it for a while.

And it's a shame Walt isn't ready yet, and probably won't work for me since I live in the U.S.

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techwooded lemmy.ca techwooded@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-19
#46 · Quote Reply

yeah switching away from whatsapp is impossible. i only got my parents to switch lol

I have been waging a war of attrition getting people to switch onto Signal. After 5 years I've managed to get my spouse, my sister, my mother, 6 of my friends, 6 of my coworkers, and one sports team I play on to begin using it. Only real holdouts are my in-laws, two of my friends I talk to regularly, and another sports team or two. Some I've wooed off of basic texting, others off of WhatsApp. It's been a long hard road, but at this point, I would estimate about 85% of my communications happen over Signal now. Keep fighting the good fight

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ThunderComplex lemmy.today ThunderComplex@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-08
#47 · Quote Reply

My only major change would be to remove Mullvad. One of the founders has made major donations to far-right groups in Sweden. People have argues that it’s his money to donate, but if paying for Mullvad puts money into the pockets of a major donor to the far-right, I’d rather support an alternative provider. I have had a very similar user experience with IVPN, and I have heard people suggest AirV...

So recently I’ve tried finding an alternative but when researching deeper into them I just found worse shit than mullvad. Like AirVPN having their servers seized.

For what it’s worth, I think mullvad is still the best option and worse case scenario you’re donating less than $5 to nazis which is like 2 hamburgers.

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Dustin03 lemmy.zip Dustin03@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-29
#48 · Quote Reply

I much prefer Kagi over DuckDuckGo

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Raptorox sh.itjust.works Raptorox@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-08-08
#49 · Quote Reply

Tuta does not support the use of third-party email clients or the protocols IMAP/POP3/SMTP as we cannot guarantee end-to-end encryption of your data.

Ah, right

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staircase programming.dev staircase@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-05-11
#50 · Quote Reply

Why not Proton as well? The CEO is not any better.

Do you consider a post supporting a Trump policy to be as bad as being the largest donor to a far-right party?

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rando lemmy.ml rando@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-02-03
#51 · Quote Reply

What is Cash+iDeal? Definitely don't see anything on f droid and words are generic enough to not provide any results on search.

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