Maybe if people with your ideology only make things that harm you it's an opportunity to reflect.

Food for thought indeed.

I don't think any of them are anymore communist then the CCP tbh.

They're just making free software with no algorithmic feeds, inherent bias, user monetisation, or dark patterns for everyone for other reasons.

Transgender Anti-War Communists, no less.

The only thing scarier is a Muslim Mayor.

Is it at least of the luxurious gay space kind?

No see, you don't understand.

The 'free market place of ideas' needs an 'invisible hand' to make sure it doesn't make any uh... mistakes.

And obviously, my particular and specific ideas about how to puppet that hand, well they are objectively correct.

/s

Unfortunately we're at the screaming at each other over precisely how to realise a stateless, monieless, classless society stage.

Although we do get to enjoy devouring the occasional lib that stumbles in.

Unfortunately half of them are tankies larping as commies

Or at least they WERE but you assholes are UNWORTHY of being SAVED so never mind!

/s

You gotta remember that no one except known communists are pitched lemmy on the basis that it's developed by a communist. Everyone else gets that fact omitted.

The other half are posting, which is just as much a larp of political action. Effective organizing doesn't happen on the internet.

Of course it does, posting when and where to meet for public protests can happen with image posts on local area comms. Like someone posted an image that held information for dates, times and locations so people could attend March for Palestine. Really it's about sharing information which can be done with the good ol' wheat paste and paper, but can reach a lot more people on the internet.

So the head lemmy devs are communists? ?_?

And liberalism only survives in people that are fundamentally incurious about the conditions under which the goods and services they use are manufactured or arise.

Go chat to Dessalines or Nutomic about it and see what they have to say about their views.

Too many people have an inversion to leftism.

Nothing wrong with communists. I feel so radicalized by capitalism I'm almost there anyway.

It's the Russian/China apologists that are annoying.

Russia is bad, Chia.na is bad, and the U.S. is bad. All those things can be true. But all the insufferable posts about how great China and Russia are, and all the bad things you have heard about them m are just Western propaganda...

If they were serious about their ideology, then why do they care so much about someone thinks about China or Russia.

If they didn't brigade those issues so much, straight up ban people, just because they disagree, or hlrefuse to have any real discussion that doesn't center on just shutting other people down, then maybe people outside their group might take them more seriously.

Yeah, yeah, communists, whatever. Did you know that some people still pretend to be Finnish here?

Whoa there are one here? does that matter? in this era the letter c are kinda better than f or t, if you think about it.

They are based ⚒️⚒️⚒️

I tried once, but they banned me for five billion years because they're tankies.

Finally somebody says it. I was pitched Lemmy as a version of reddit that won't enshittify because it isn't run by Spez. There was no mention of communism whatsoever. I came expecting reddit as it had existed a few years prior to the API debacle. Now everyday I have to read a genocide denier accuse someone of supporting genocide because they voted against a fascist who supports genocide. Make it make sense.

And like, the communist thing isn't a problem in itself, but there is some kind of brain rot going on in this particular online space. You know last week I stumbled into a thread full of people claiming that North Korea is some kind of utopia and all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary is propaganda? That's not regular leftist discourse, that's some kind of looney tunes shit.

I've exchanged 5 sentences with you and I've gotta say I'm sympathetic to them already.

Reddit was awful from the moment it was created because it was designed to commodity and control the commons.

While thats true, I do think people really forget that the actual labor that improves your community is offline, not another sick meme to dunk on the liberals

Its easy for it to end up feeling like performance to fit in with the in-crowd more than actual desire to fix problems. The internet can be helpful but only as a tool in service of actually doing political labor. If its not work you're probably not really accomplishing anything.

torille.

I'm sure you've had this explained before, how a unipolar world is worse than a detente.

Hey I'm just on the Finnish instance. No one doubts from where I am posting. Always seemed like a convenient bouncing around of signals.

Anarcho communists welcome you. We hate all nation states equally. Unfortunately there aren't enough of us to brigade anything.

Some of us are just tired of western people not wanting to get a little nuance about none western countries. And the instance you admit that ofcourse no place is perfect you get hit with. "See x is bad, communism can't work in reality." It is tiresome and eventually I end up defaulting to standard answers or blocking people if they are rude.

On top of that I do think it is amazing how for instance India, China and Vietnam has improved the lives of billions, but every single time it hit western news it is followed by "but at what price".

And finally I have realized that things are not always as they seem and the propaganda machine makes it hard to discern the reality of many things. This goes for everything. I have no clue if it actually is dangerous to go USA or it just seem that way.

The less polite ones don't even ask you first!

I never cared about those politics, it's just all the drama that gets weird. No developer is required to disclose they're a what-ist. You would hear a lot more about it from whiny Americans, if so.

I once got at least 10 comments telling me how good russia and china are and how bad USA is and that i am a USA sucker, welp kinda my fault for making a comment in the wrong instance

In the same way an oligarchy is preferable to an absolute monopoly, sure

That's like, 95% of people, yeah.

The left is anything they do not like

Im not communist but China is not that bad, people have a lot more freedom in China than in the US.

Hah! I did not know that was an emoji, haha!

Cuba believers stay winning.

Is it really freedom if you can't stand outside a school with a battle rifle?

Misanthropy is cringe. Humans are wonderful, lots of people remain curious and determined despite massive indoctrination efforts.

<3 humanity. We've got this.

I have no clue if it actually is dangerous to go USA or it just seem that way.

USian here. It's not dangerous as long as you're not even vaguely latino.

It kinda is though. You have to worry about scammers/pickpockets/hustlers/gangs in a couple or spots (although they mostly stick to murdering each other).

Plus basal violence is extremely high. Like even by intentional homicides it's in the top third https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

There's a lot of the world without a "bad part of town"

You can always filter out the tankie comms and the users that come from tankie comms. Or you can move to an instance that's defederated from them.

I want to say "how much of that is gang violence" but I don't want to take one in the neck.

Wouldn't be surprised if new users actually complain about them, pretty much all the 'communists' here are obnoxious nationalist larpers

everyone is doing it wrong except you.

Log off and start a 5th international but correct this time.

I'm fine with someone having a negative opinion of China so long as they don't use that as a purity test and demand everyone else denounce China, calling people "fascists" or "tankies" and refusing to work with them otherwise.

Obviously, the vast majority of people on here don't live in China, and we generally have bigger fish to fry domestically to worry about meddling in their affairs. I would turn the question around and ask why people are so invested in making sure everyone sufficiently condemns China instead of working together to address the more pressing matter of class conflict.

If they didn’t brigade those issues so much, straight up ban people, just because they disagree, or hlrefuse to have any real discussion that doesn’t center on just shutting other people down, then maybe people outside their group might take them more seriously.

This is exactly how I feel about a lot of anti-China spaces. It's difficult to have a real discussion about almost any topic related to China because if you suggest that anything about them isn't the worst thing ever you get accused of being a fascist and dismissed, if not banned. If .ml goes too far in the other direction, then it is at least somewhat unique in doing so, and it's worthwhile to have a space where non-mainstream perspectives can be discussed.

Everyone is doing it right except them.

Log off and revive the 4th international because it worked so well.