Link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/coin-operated-elevators-condominiums-apartment-162043988.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAA0iAijCYWq3zAlMbX67LnBXezveYJ_rvdhBggXoD91TF8JAQS5iIHr-sYlGkhnG4SJrfdvbKBYCP8e0ackLfTpIER-YxmvwTYgo-ZcrAX5nlFWPG_kNY6vbMEXjffC23x1JnK5ylb_YdpWvNdJoJ2wqI363Wa8vW9t0zYkbYgLp

So if you have no change you get locked out of your home?

Enshittification soaring to new heights.

Disability tax, more like

worse yet app operated.

Examples already within reach include:

• Per-use package lockers

• Metered stairwell lighting ಠ_ಠ

• Tiered heating access

There's always the complaint box:

Edit: Maybe not the best picture. It's a box with a coin slot.

Crapification reaches the new levels.

Vandalizing an elevator that you aren't allowed to use doesn't take anything away from you.

If this is added to an existing building this is a violation of tenant laws. The facility that was free when you moved in is now not available and that isn't allowed.

Property managers argue that heavy users should pay more. Direct fees create a funding stream for electricity and repairs that flat condo fees never quite cover.

So they're saying that they're incompetent managers who don't have a sufficient rainy day fund for unexpected expenses, and can't even plan ahead for obvious, anticipated maintenance and repair expenses.

The consequences of acting like wealth is in indicator of virtue or competence:

That will be 2 slips of Latinum please.

US landlords must be drooling at the idea.

Condos usually have HOA fees that pay for this...

Most elevators are legally required to have a fire key for fire service to be able to take over use of the elevator.

Also completely unrelated, did you know most standard keys that are legally required are often public information. You can often just find the keyring in legal documents.

They tried it in Naples.

5 minutes later the coin box was jemmied open.

En-Defication approaches new floors above and below us-

I really hope our boy Netanyahu strikes again in destroying these things.

Italy checks out. Their entire economy is based around creating problems that no other country has, and charging for solutions.

The fuck?

As they fucking should.

Now do that with pay-to-use bathrooms.

My apartment building has app operated entrances, and I was completely reliant on someone else with a working phone to let me in multiple times. They said they got rid of standard fobs because of people apparently lose them often, but it have never once lost mine, yet I've had two phones kick the bucket on me, multiple times where my battery died, and a few times where it got softbricked after a failed update. Just this week I had the app reset itself after an overhaul, making me go through the setup process again while standing outside in a heatwave. Given that I'm especially heat sensitive, I'm surprised I didn't pass out.

Easiest lawsuit ever, depending on the state

1. Destroy the coin machine
2. Have the landlord grumble and disable the elevator
3. Sue landlord for breaking local & state building codes

Yes, you have a fee... But what about a second fee?

Wow, an extra fee for the disabled to disproportionately pay.

Holy crap, you're an expert on tenant rights in Georgia, Italy, and China? That's impressive!

You can also do NFC cards where you have the option to put them into your phone. The cards are super cheap, less than 50 cents per.

Sounds hellish, but a good way to get your steps in, if you have that ability.

What the fuck are you talking about jesse

I actually brought it up, and they said that people would just lose those too. Then they said that the only way going forwards was still an ios or android app. They said if it dies then it's my fault and that I'll just be locked out.

Ethical Vandalism

ugh. I think the scariest part of our dystopia is how as dystompic as it is at any point you find out a new dystopic thing (this is new for me). I mean even with the keyfob/card its recording every time you enter and leave.

Wtf

America is becoming comedicly distopia with its pay to win.

America is not featured in this article.

So, everyone seems against this. But, given that elevators are very expensive to maintain and repair, why shouldn't the users who use it the most pay more than those who don't? Catoblepas mentioned disability, so yes you could exempt those people. But for example in a high rise, those on a higher floor typically will have a higher market value than those on lower floors (or a higher rent, but similarly are likely to be relatively higher income). And people who are particularly heavy users will otherwise cause maintenance and repair costs to be spread over other people who aren't heavy users, and that's not really fair either.

We had those in the UK in the 50-60s and earlier, you would have to spend a penny for the public toilet. Which coined the term "I have to go spend a penny" as a polite way of saying you had to use the toilet

In an ideal world I can see this being a deterrent for an able bodied person from using an elevator meant to be used for maintenance workers, disabled persons, and people moving in/out, and that they'd get a code for free use. But we all know that's not the case.

For that, people always pay a monthly maintenance fee that includes cleaning of the building and lobby and common areas. I have no problem with that. Let people on higher floor pay a little note for the extra electricity? Fine.

This though is liberal bullshit

Yeah we have condo fees, part of that goes into preventative maintenance and contingency fund for breakdowns. Land Lord should manage it the same way

Because it should be the responsibility of the landlord to maintain the property. The users are paying to rent a space within the building. They are not responsible for the building itself, outside of property damage. Property maintenance is the responsibility of the person renting out the building.

why shouldn't the users who use it the most pay more than those who don't?

Why should any users be paying for a common public area that they have no responsibility over? When the elevators break down do you think that the landlords refuse to have them repaired and go around door to door asking the tenants to chip in? Or do you imagine that they will lower the rent if tenants have to pay to use the elevator because that subsidizes their operating costs?

Should they also charge users for entering through automatic doors? Those wear down over time, and they could put the money towards servicing them.

What about a fee for using the stairs? They have to replace the non-slip tape on them every once in a while. And for VCT stairs, the landings need to be stripped and waxed to maintain the protective coating. That is another form of maintenance that is affected by wear and tear. So obviously those that use the stairs more often bear a heavier burden on the upkeep.

Or should people be charged a fee for walking on carpeted hallways? The carpets will get dirty over time from people walking over them, so by having everyone that walks on them chip in, it keeps things fair when it comes time for the property owner to get the carpets cleaned.

Fascists doing fascist things

O. O wow I'm shocked, for once America isn't respocible for one of these micro toll ideas, this is still comedicly distopian in my eyes tho.

It's already illegal in the US under the Americans With Disabilities Act.

I had somewhat of a longwinded reply but edited it to say it would be based on the assumption that rent is reduced about the same amount by the income received from user fees, since the owners would no longer have to pay as much to maintain the elevator. Whether that assumption holds true would be true is some cases and not true in others.

I'm sure you can see how people would get confused since condominium is an American term and nobody likes to read articles

A lot of people actually own the apartments they live in, there's no one landlord who owns the building. The apartment owners together do. If that's how they vote to do it, who's to say that's wrong?

In a big enough commie block you might have over 100 "landlords" and it might be difficult to get them all to agree on increasing the maintenence fee.