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Alteon
lemmy.world
Alteon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
This image is from Materials International Space Station Experiment (MISSE) 2, part of STS-105 mission in 2001. Full report is at https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20070002707/downloads/20070002707.pdf |
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hobata
lemmy.ml
hobata@lemmy.mlJoined: 2025-05-06 |
your girlfriend's makeup case |
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givesomefucks
lemmy.world
givesomefucks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Held up better than whatever the screws were made out of... /s |
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graycube
lemmy.world
graycube@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-22 |
The paper says 41 samples, not "hundreds". |
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hamsamrich
lemmy.world
hamsamrich@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-08-18 |
Held up better than whatever the screws were made out of... /s
HA! |
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Mark with a Z
suppo.fi
markz@suppo.fi Joined: 2025-07-04 |
The paper says 41 samples, not "hundreds".
0,41 hundred |
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bananabenana
lemmy.world
bananabenana@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-15 |
Very cool experiment. I love the idea of cosmic erosion. Space is truly a hostile environment in every aspect. |
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zarathustrad
lemmy.world
zarathustrad@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-04 |
The paper says 41 samples, not "hundreds".
That's 10 more than Baskin Robbins. So, take that big ice cream! |
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Crozekiel
lemmy.zip
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-22 |
I would love this even more if that picture was labelled. Still neat tho. |
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Zephyr
sh.itjust.works
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-06-11 |
Most materials just left out in the sun in my backyard break down like this. I can only imagine the cold of space coupled with the full blast of the suns radiation. |
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postmateDumbass
lemmy.world
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Very cool experiment. I love the idea of cosmic erosion. Space is truly a hostile environment in every aspect.
So what are the loss paths here? Sublimation? Cosmic ray ionization? Particles escaping the atmosphere reacting chemically? |
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texture
lemmy.world
texture@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-12-19 |
i got my ex a pallet like this for her bday |
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Noite_Etion
lemmy.world
Noite_Etion@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-09 |
Just wanted to know what each of these samples were made of |
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Buddahriffic
lemmy.world
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
So what are the loss paths here? Sublimation? Cosmic ray ionization? Particles escaping the atmosphere reacting chemically?
Astronauts developed a habit of rubbing one sample during each spacewalk for luck? |
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CocaineShrimp
sh.itjust.works
CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2025-06-30 |
Interesting! Most interesting ones I saw at a glance:
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Buddahriffic
lemmy.world
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Did your source have anything at all about the first 5 ones? Those 4 with the metal frame looking things intruiged me the most. |
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nightwatch_admin
lemmy.world
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-03-17 |
I would love this even more if that picture was labelled. Still neat tho.
Labels vaporised before the picture was taken |
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huquad
lemmy.ml
huquad@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-07-08 |
So what are the loss paths here? Sublimation? Cosmic ray ionization? Particles escaping the atmosphere reacting chemically?
Main ones are UV and atomic oxygen. There's not a lot of atmosphere at the ISS altitude, but it's still there and you're flying past it at ~18000 mph, so it comes in hot. |
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M137
lemmy.world
M137@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-05 |
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WolfLink
sh.itjust.works
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-06-06 |
TLDR mostly different types of plastic |
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Noite_Etion
lemmy.world
Noite_Etion@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-09 |
Did your source have anything at all about the first 5 ones? Those 4 with the metal frame looking things intruiged me the most.
It's just pulled from OPs link, didn't go through the whole report sorry. |
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Crackhappy
lemmy.world
Crackhappy@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-09 |
Most materials just left out in the sun in my backyard break down like this. I can only imagine the cold of space coupled with the full blast of the suns radiation.
Space is not cold. |
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Zephyr
sh.itjust.works
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-06-11 |
Space is not cold.
I mean yeah the concept of temperature doesn't really make sense when talking about empty space. That said irl space is anything but empty. There's at least a perpetual quantum fizz of virtual particles popping in and out of existence. The average temperature of stuff in space is about 2.7K which is really freaking cold. |
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Successful_Try543
feddit.org
Successful_Try543@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-22 |
TLDR mostly different types of plastic
That's what the name of the study "Polymer Erosion And Contamination Experiment" implies. |
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Successful_Try543
feddit.org
Successful_Try543@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-22 |
The paper says 41 samples, not "hundreds".
41 is the number of polymers tested in the PEACE, the whole MISSE program involves several material classes with more than 1000 samples. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materials_International_Space_Station_Experiment |
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Successful_Try543
feddit.org
Successful_Try543@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-22 |
I mean yeah the concept of temperature doesn't really make sense when talking about empty space. That said irl space is anything but empty. There's at least a perpetual quantum fizz of virtual particles popping in and out of existence. The average temperature of stuff in space is about 2.7K which is really freaking cold.
Space itself is cold, but any surface subjected to radiation, e.g. sunlight, becomes hot. |
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azuth
sh.itjust.works
freeman@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-15 |
I mean yeah the concept of temperature doesn't really make sense when talking about empty space. That said irl space is anything but empty. There's at least a perpetual quantum fizz of virtual particles popping in and out of existence. The average temperature of stuff in space is about 2.7K which is really freaking cold.
Space is not anything but empty, its not totally empty. So the "stuff" might be at 2.7K but it won't be able to absorb much energy from a hot object. Which is why cooling is an issue in space and not freezing. |
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Successful_Try543
feddit.org
Successful_Try543@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-22 |
Did your source have anything at all about the first 5 ones? Those 4 with the metal frame looking things intruiged me the most.
Specimen #1 to #5 are silicone O-rings, #6 is an
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gmtom
lemmy.world
gmtom@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-26 |
Where can I buy this eyeshadow pallette? |
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my_hat_stinks
programming.dev
my_hat_stinks@programming.dev Joined: 2023-08-09 |
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The 42nd sample would be one of the ones on this tray, considering this tray alone held 46 samples 41 of which were related to this experiment. Are you sure you can count and read? The abstract linked also quite clearly states that MISSE PEACE (ie the polymer one you see in the image) was part of a broader MISSE 2 experiment. If you bothered to read the paper you'd even have seen an image of it in context with other materials.
MISSE 2 alone had 456 samples, if you count other MISSE experiments you hit thousands. |
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Otter
lemmy.ca
otter@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-05 |
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This feels like an unnecessarily rude comment for something minor. Just point out the issue and ask them to fix it. For example:
Turns out the title might not even be wrong, sorry for bothering you Alteon |
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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
lemmy.world
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
So is Crystalline Polyvinyl fluoride with white pigment what starships should be coated in? |
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winkerjadams
lemmy.dbzer0.com
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-06-22 |
TLDR mostly different types of plastic
Kevlar is my favorite |
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MonkderVierte
lemmy.zip
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-05-30 |
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Bad day? |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Kevlar is my favorite
Kevlar is a brand name, aramid fiber is the material. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
So what are the loss paths here? Sublimation? Cosmic ray ionization? Particles escaping the atmosphere reacting chemically?
Reactive oxygen, UV and ozone. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Where can I buy this eyeshadow pallette?
Sara Huckabee? |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Interesting! Most interesting ones I saw at a glance: Plexiglass looks like it turns to powder Teflon is almost visually unaffected
I could have told you that on earth. |
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musicalphysics
discuss.online
musicalphysics@discuss.online Joined: 2026-01-12 |
It would’ve been great if metallic samples were included. It is common to coat with gold but gold gets very hot. I pushed for some time with my local engineers to use aluminum instead for space hardware but there isn’t much specific data on aluminum exposure in space. |
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musicalphysics
discuss.online
musicalphysics@discuss.online Joined: 2026-01-12 |
Most materials just left out in the sun in my backyard break down like this. I can only imagine the cold of space coupled with the full blast of the suns radiation.
Deep space is cold. The ionosphere where the ISS is doesn’t really get below 800 k. Plus anything exposed to the sun gets very hot. Cooling the ISS is the primary thermal activity, not heating. |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Kevlar is a brand name, aramid fiber is the material. And Kleenexs are paper tissue.
I once saw a Velcro demonstration at Epcot, and it was clear that they were paying Disney a fortune so they could make the legal claim that they were vigorously defending their Velcro trademark by trying to convince consumers that they should use the phrase "hook & loop fastening system" instead of saying Velcro. Sure we will, it rolls right off the tongue. |
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winkerjadams
lemmy.dbzer0.com
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Kevlar is a brand name, aramid fiber is the material. And Kleenexs are paper tissue.
Right but if I said aramid nobody would know what that is and if I say kevlar everyone knows. That's why I said it instead of the scientific name that nobody colloquially knows |
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siravious
lemmy.world
siravious@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-23 |
That's 10 more than Baskin Robbins. So, take that big ice cream!
🤣 |
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Alteon
Moderator
Alteon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
This feels like an unnecessarily rude comment for something minor. Just point out the issue and ask them to fix it. For example: @Alteon@lemmy.world, the report says that there were 41 samples and not hundreds. Please fix the title in your post to keep it accurate. Turns out the title might not even be wrong, sorry for bothering you Alteon
No worries boss. :) |
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Honytawk
discuss.tchncs.de
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2026-02-20 |
Space is not cold.
Nah, space is cold, but it is also a extremely good insulator. Because you'd need molecules to bounce off of things in order to transfer energy. No molecules means no heat transfer. So a hot pan in space could stay hot for months. |
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Successful_Try543
feddit.org
Successful_Try543@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-22 |
Right but if I said aramid nobody would know what that is and if I say kevlar everyone knows. That's why I said it instead of the scientific name that nobody colloquially knows
In addition, aramide fibers aren't generally Kevlar. Thus, calling them by the brand name Kevlar (p-aramide fiber or the exact chemical name as given in the table) is actually more precise. |
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JigglySackles
lemmy.world
JigglySackles@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Lol I like how 3d printing has me familiar with a number of these plastics |
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