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mazzilius_marsti
lemmy.world
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-15 |
I know the US is a shitshow right now but please im looking for sensible answers. I have some documents from a bank that need to be mailed. PDF is not an option and no matter how much i push for a secure email option, they still stick with slow turtle mail. I live outside the US and this slow mail process has been very frustrating. And not just banks, any other business if you request some form of paperwork, their answer => MAIL. That is very weird consider to mail the document, they need to type out an electronic version then print and mail it. So why waste too many steps? And i just discovered today theres a thing called mailforwarding service..... Aka you buy a US mailbox, letter gets sent to that mailbox then they help to forward those internationally. In contrast to when I am in China and Singapore, EVERYTHING is digital. It is so much better that the only thing i carry is my phone. |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
Excuse me, I am currently in Germany. |
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pelespirit
sh.itjust.works
pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
What happens if your bank is hacked and it says that you have $1 instead of 10k in the bank? Do you have a paper backup at all? How about your mortgage or car loan? |
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anonymouspl
piefed.world
anonymouspl@piefed.world Joined: 2026-02-08 |
I am in Poland. We have digital ID and drivers licences that are on par with plastic ones, digital patients portal where we get our prescriptions with QR code, we register and make changes to our business online etc. I never got mail from the bank but from time to time I get paper mail from various institutions - extreamly stupid situation last week - I wrote to the ministry online, via government portal and got answer via traditional mail 🤦♂️ |
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feannag
sh.itjust.works
feannag@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-02-20 |
While I fully agree thing should be digital (mail or fax are you kidding me?), very few business have secure email set up, especially for PII and health data. And even if they did, most consumers don't want to deal with setting up encrypted email/PGP keys or anything like that. |
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Carighan Maconar
piefed.world
Carighan@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-16 |
Excuse me, I am currently in Germany. So could you please resend your post to me via Telefax?
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Carighan Maconar
piefed.world
Carighan@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-16 |
It is often simply a legal thing. In many countries, laws have clauses for the legality of written notification, but no amendments or specification about how this works for a digital notification. |
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grandel
lemmy.ml
grandel@lemmy.ml Joined: 2020-10-27 |
What happens if your bank is hacked and it says that you have $1 instead of 10k in the bank? Do you have a paper backup at all? How about your mortgage or car loan?
What if it is robbed and the paper is taken? Do they have a digital backup at all? A bank should spend the same amount of money on digital security than physical security. I mean, security is the whole point banks exist in the first place and why people trust them. |
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autriyo
feddit.org
autriyo@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-26 |
Boy do I have bad news for you. 🤣
Okay time to vote CDU for the first time in my life, can't have Germany's government step on its legacy like that. /s |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
Boy do I have bad news for you. 🤣
But e.g. was still the main means of communication between my doctor's office and the physio therapists I had to go to a few months back... |
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megopie
lemmy.blahaj.zone
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-15 |
To an extent, institutional inertia. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Adopting new systems brings in a layer of uncertainty, sure maybe there is some upside to the new system, but does it outweigh the risk and cost of overhauling all the dependencies of the old system? Can you be sure that all the relevant stakeholders and partners will be onboard with the new system, or will some reject it and insist on the old system, thus requiring everyone to maintain two standards. It’s much easier to adopt a new system |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
Building a secure, reliable, accessible and privacy respecting identity management infrastructure would be a monumental task, even if only good-faith actors were involved. Unfortunately, good-faith actors are in very short supply these days. In places like China or Singapore, people have no expectation of privacy to begin with, so it's easier to build digital services there. |
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megopie
lemmy.blahaj.zone
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-15 |
What if it is robbed and the paper is taken? Do they have a digital backup at all? A bank should spend the same amount of money on digital security than physical security. I mean, security is the whole point banks exist in the first place and why people trust them.
There are way more people who can attempt a hack than can attempt to break in. |
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Shimitar
downonthestreet.eu
Shimitar@downonthestreet.euJoined: 2025-01-28 |
Snail mail, even better certified mail, is a de facto standard that can reach everyone everywhere. Also, it make sense that the most widespread and solid communication channel is still considered the official one Here in Italy you can also use certified email instead of snail mail, but you need to purchase and pay (yearly) for an account. So snail mail still ubiquitous and solid. Certified email better, faster, if you can afford it (pretty cheap, but require an active action from you, to get it). |
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makeshift0546
lemmy.today
makeshift0546@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-05-11 Banned |
You have a shitty bank 🤷♂️ I haven't mailed docs ever in my adult life. Seriously I have no idea why you're mailing shit. |
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HobbitFoot
thelemmy.club
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club Joined: 2023-06-16 |
It depends on the bank. All my banks want everything to be digital and pushes everything to be handled online. This includes signing. I'd question what bank you have. |
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pelespirit
sh.itjust.works
pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
What if it is robbed and the paper is taken? Do they have a digital backup at all? A bank should spend the same amount of money on digital security than physical security. I mean, security is the whole point banks exist in the first place and why people trust them.
That's why you have both, having backups is part of being secure. |
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Folstar
lemmus.org
Folstar@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-03-24 |
A few answers: Sounds like you have a shitty bank. Traditional mail is important in the US because not everyone has access to the technology you speak of. Keep in mind, the USA is 50 countries in a trenchcoat and many areas / states are 3rd world. Institutions like to use the previous point to justify not updating systems or keeping systems intentionally frustrating in the hopes people will not bother them. |
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