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Luxury car brands Mitsubishi Mazda and Suzuki Subaru were selling alongside Toyota Lexus, Nissan Infinity, and Honda Acura, so when did Subaru and Mazda become independent from Mitsubishi and Suzuki?
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Sparky lemmy.today Sparky@lemmy.today
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Mnem667 sh.itjust.works Mnem667@sh.itjust.works
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Maybe you are confused, or I am. Mazda and Mitsu haven't been together, nor Subaru and Suzuki.

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
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#3 · Quote Reply

A tree in a golden forest.

No, really. What?

There has not been any point in history that Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industries) has ever been a subsidiary or brand or Suzuki, nor has Mazda (Toyo Cork Kogyo Co., Ltd) ever been a subsidiary of Mitsubishi.

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qualia lemmy.world qualia@lemmy.world
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#4 · Quote Reply

What they said.

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Smuuthbrane sh.itjust.works smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works
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#5 · Quote Reply

Why does it feel like I'm still browsing Lemmy Shitposts?

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Cypher aussie.zone Cypher@aussie.zone
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#6 · Quote Reply

Seems like you remember some local dealers that had those cars on their lots and assumed a larger association between those manufacturers.

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RightHandOfIkaros Moderator RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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Neither Mazda nor Subaru are subsidiary companies, nor have either been owned by or owned Mitsubishi or Suzuki. And honestly, none of those are luxury brands either.

It is possible that some models from Mazda or Subaru have used parts manufactured by Mitsubishi or Suzuki in them, as parts sharing pretty common even today, but that doesn't make any assertion or subsidization. GM used Mitsubishi parts in Saturn cars, for example.

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Sparky lemmy.today Sparky@lemmy.today
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A tree in a golden forest. No, really. What? There has not been any point in history that Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industries) has ever been a subsidiary or brand or Suzuki, nor has Mazda (Toyo Cork Kogyo Co., Ltd) ever been a subsidiary of Mitsubishi.

Mitsubishi Mazada and Suzuki Subaru were popular television commercials back in 2003.

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Sparky lemmy.today Sparky@lemmy.today
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Neither Mazda nor Subaru are subsidiary companies, nor have either been owned by or owned Mitsubishi or Suzuki. And honestly, none of those are luxury brands either. It is possible that some models from Mazda or Subaru have used parts manufactured by Mitsubishi or Suzuki in them, as parts sharing pretty common even today, but that doesn't make any assertion or subsidization. GM used Mitsubishi ...

Mitsubishi Mazada and Suzuki Subaru have had popular television commercials back in 2003.

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ReptilianCleric lemmy.zip ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip
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Mitsubishi Mazada and Suzuki Subaru have had popular television commercials back in 2003.

Ummm...no.

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David_Eight lemmy.world David_Eight@lemmy.world
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Mitsubishi Mazada and Suzuki Subaru were popular television commercials back in 2003.

Either those companies had some sort of partnership to have combined dealerships where you live because neither was large/popular enough to be sustainable alone. Or local dealerships combined independently of the manufacturer for the same reason.

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Sparky lemmy.today Sparky@lemmy.today
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Either those companies had some sort of partnership to have combined dealerships where you live because neither was large/popular enough to be sustainable alone. Or local dealerships combined independently of the manufacturer for the same reason.

Mitsubishi Mazda was as common as Nissan Infinity back in 2003

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actionjbone sh.itjust.works actionjbone@sh.itjust.works
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Mitsubishi Mazada and Suzuki Subaru have had popular television commercials back in 2003.

Whatever you're smoking, I'd like to try some of it.

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actionjbone sh.itjust.works actionjbone@sh.itjust.works
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Mitsubishi Mazda was as common as Nissan Infinity back in 2003

Seriously, I have no idea how this thought could have even entered your head.

I'm not sure whether to be amused by it or to feel concerned about your mental health.

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banause feddit.org banause@feddit.org
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Are you ok?

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RightHandOfIkaros Moderator RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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Mitsubishi Mazada and Suzuki Subaru have had popular television commercials back in 2003.

I mean, maybe. But that may have been a local dealership thing or some kind of joint venture deal. They have never owned the other, though.

Subaru had a joint venture plant with Isuzu in Indiana which was called "Subaru Isuzu Automotive," where they have manufactured or still manufacture the Subaru Ascent, Crosstrek, and Forester. Nothing with Suzuki though.

Mitsubishi is currently owned by Nissan. Hyundai has sold rebadged Mitsubishis before, and Mitsubishi has sold rebadged Suzukis before. Mazda is the parent company of itself and currently has a joint venture plant in Alabama with Toyota. But Mitsubishi and Mazda have never had any joint ventures.

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nilloc discuss.tchncs.de nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

Seriously, I have no idea how this thought could have even entered your head. I'm not sure whether to be amused by it or to feel concerned about your mental health.

Yeah I’ve been reading Road and Track since 1990 (and now have collections back to the 1950s).

Subaru has never been a part of Suzuki and also hasn’t really been a luxury brand in any sense until possibly the last decade (though mid tier niche at best is more like it). More like a quirky niche brand that sells in the north well because of their AWD system and low cost.

Mitsubishi was also in a fierce competition with Subaru during the Tommi Mäkinen/Colin McRae era of rally racing. Building the Lancer EVOs to compete with the WRX STi of Subaru. Those in fact were the 2 most expensive cars in the lineups and neither were luxury cars by any means.

Until recently when Toyota bought a stake in Subaru, it was an independent manufacturer under Fuji Heavy Industries as stated above. Similarly Mitsubishi is a brand of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, which was the biggest industrial group in Japan at one point. And makes many those heat pumps you see everywhere in Asia.

There must have been small local dealerships that combined these brands, or else they’re just completely mis remembering.

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noodles slrpnk.net noodles@slrpnk.net
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I tried looking up joint commercials from the early 2000s for either of these brand combinations and found nothing at all. Plenty for Mazda, Mitsubishi, etc. each separately, but no joint ventures. Curious if anyone else, especially OP, can find anything?

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
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Seriously, I have no idea how this thought could have even entered your head. I'm not sure whether to be amused by it or to feel concerned about your mental health.

OP must be from one of the timelines where they spelled it "Bearenstein."

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Sparky lemmy.today Sparky@lemmy.today
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Yeah I’ve been reading Road and Track since 1990 (and now have collections back to the 1950s). Subaru has never been a part of Suzuki and also hasn’t really been a luxury brand in any sense until possibly the last decade (though mid tier niche at best is more like it). More like a quirky niche brand that sells in the north well because of their AWD system and low cost. Mitsubishi was also in a ...

Mazda is the luxury car division of Mitsubishi, just like Subaru is the luxury car division of Suzuki.

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Sparky lemmy.today Sparky@lemmy.today
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#21 · Quote Reply

I tried looking up joint commercials from the early 2000s for either of these brand combinations and found nothing at all. Plenty for Mazda, Mitsubishi, etc. each separately, but no joint ventures. Curious if anyone else, especially OP, can find anything?

those commercials were made in an era before Youtube came out in 2004.

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nilloc discuss.tchncs.de nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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Mazda is the luxury car division of Mitsubishi, just like Subaru is the luxury car division of Suzuki.

Oh it’s just a troll I guess

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noodles slrpnk.net noodles@slrpnk.net
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#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

those commercials were made in an era before Youtube came out in 2004.

I think you're trolling but whatever, here's a Mazda commercial from 1990 with no mention of Mitsubishi
[https://youtu.be/10rtVBRjCK4?is=9Z0mLBV_rV9GFKew]

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Lka1988 lemmy.dbzer0.com lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I think you're trolling but whatever, here's a Mazda commercial from 1990 with no mention of Mitsubishi [https://youtu.be/10rtVBRjCK4?is=9Z0mLBV_rV9GFKew]

Look at their post history.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#25 · Quote Reply

Why does it feel like I'm still browsing Lemmy Shitposts?

At Wilkins Hyundai and Subaru, we sell Hyundai and Subaru.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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Mitsubishi Mazada and Suzuki Subaru have had popular television commercials back in 2003.

Mazadada and subaruru

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