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Rising Temperatures Are Threatening Italy’s Bank Reserves—Because They’re Made of Parmesan Cheese
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green_goglin thelemmy.club green_goglin@thelemmy.club
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heliotrope slrpnk.net heliotrope@slrpnk.net
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What is this, The Day Today?

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Redfox8 mander.xyz Redfox8@mander.xyz
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What is this, The Day Today?

Oh good reference! And now for sport with Alan Partridge.

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
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Don't worry folks, the bank is not literally made of cheese. Their source uses a less oniony headline: https://www.euronews.com/business/2026/08/11/extreme-heat-strains-italys-cheese-banks-where-parmigiano-backs-farm-loans

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gandalf_der_13te feddit.org gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
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Missouri Cheese

Much government cheese is stored in "Missouri cheese caves",[10] underground warehouses for storing and aging cheese in and around the Midwestern state of Missouri, part of a national network of such facilities.[11] An erroneous article by Modern Farmer began circulating on social media in 2022 implying all of the USDA's 1.5 billion pounds of cheese was stored in caves near Springfield, Missouri.[12][13]

The US has it too.

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Cethin lemmy.zip Cethin@lemmy.zip
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Missouri Cheese Much government cheese is stored in "Missouri cheese caves",[10] underground warehouses for storing and aging cheese in and around the Midwestern state of Missouri, part of a national network of such facilities.[11] An erroneous article by Modern Farmer began circulating on social media in 2022 implying all of the USDA's 1.5 billion pounds of cheese was stored in caves near Spri...

Imagine exploring some caves and just wandering into one of these vaults...

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antlion lemmy.dbzer0.com antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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When cattle are grazing unbuildable, unfarmable land, it is a fully renewable and sustainable system. Presumably the trees are the casualty but you could just as easily argue that timber products are not sustainable.

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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When cattle are grazing unbuildable, unfarmable land, it is a fully renewable and sustainable system. Presumably the trees are the casualty but you could just as easily argue that timber products are not sustainable.
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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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Mountains.

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antlion lemmy.dbzer0.com antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Have you traveled around? The foothills have a lot of very rocky slopes and terrain. Terrace farming is extremely expensive and labor intensive. Vineyards are the only crop grown on slopes at scale, and we already have too many grapes.

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Missouri Cheese Much government cheese is stored in "Missouri cheese caves",[10] underground warehouses for storing and aging cheese in and around the Midwestern state of Missouri, part of a national network of such facilities.[11] An erroneous article by Modern Farmer began circulating on social media in 2022 implying all of the USDA's 1.5 billion pounds of cheese was stored in caves near Spri...

I will not eat green eggs and government cheese. I will not eat it because it makes me wheeze.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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Imagine exploring some caves and just wandering into one of these vaults...

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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Don't worry folks, the bank is not literally made of cheese. Their source uses a less oniony headline: https://www.euronews.com/business/2026/08/11/extreme-heat-strains-italys-cheese-banks-where-parmigiano-backs-farm-loans

A single round of Parmagiano is $2000.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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Oh, so we can all eat cheese that tastes like window caulk.

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
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Have you traveled around? The foothills have a lot of very rocky slopes and terrain. Terrace farming is extremely expensive and labor intensive. Vineyards are the only crop grown on slopes at scale, and we already have too many grapes.

Them using land is not the only thing they do.

They drink water for example, a kg of cow meat requires 1000L of water. This is not a problem everywhere, but it can be.

They eat grass and there are many places where they have the space and the climate to walk around and eat the grass that is there, but many places they need additional food. Their biggest source of protein is usually soy. Most of that soy comes from south-america: first they burn down a forest to make space, then they plant genetically modified soy. This soy is modified to be resistant to pesticides. They spray the entire plot with these chemicals, so everything dies except the soy. This stuff travels beyond the borders of the farmers land, killing local wildlife and threatening the ecosystem.

Also not all cows are treated well. A cow only gives milk after birth, so each year a cow has to be insimenated and birth a baby cow. A cow can live for decades, but their body is working so hard many won't live over 10 years.

Another problem is that cows are given hormones and antibiotics, residues of which end up in consumer meat.

I'm not writing this because I believe we should go to a 100% plant-based society, but the current system of mass-production is a lose-lose situation for everyone except for the people making a (small) profit.

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green_goglin thelemmy.club green_goglin@thelemmy.club
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Missouri Cheese Much government cheese is stored in "Missouri cheese caves",[10] underground warehouses for storing and aging cheese in and around the Midwestern state of Missouri, part of a national network of such facilities.[11] An erroneous article by Modern Farmer began circulating on social media in 2022 implying all of the USDA's 1.5 billion pounds of cheese was stored in caves near Spri...

Very interesting !

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undefined lemmy.hogru.ch undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
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Oh, so we can all eat cheese that tastes like window caulk.

all eat cheese

But why do you need to eat cheese though? It’s incredibly unnecessary and only works to abuse the animals that produce it. Maybe step back and think about what you’re doing instead of assuming that “we all” need to eat cheese.

Sorry but that’s what always gets me about talking to non-vegans. Unless you’re somewhere like the Arctic Circle you’re consuming animals solely for the pleasure of taste — that’s an ugly look.

Edit: Keep downvoting you disgusting people.

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Nouvellalia lemmy.world Nouvellalia@lemmy.world
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A single round of Parmagiano is $2000.

More like $20k!
Haha!
Bilbo! Another round of cheese for Thorin's Dustr!

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antlion lemmy.dbzer0.com antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Them using land is not the only thing they do. They drink water for example, a kg of cow meat requires 1000L of water. This is not a problem everywhere, but it can be. They eat grass and there are many places where they have the space and the climate to walk around and eat the grass that is there, but many places they need additional food. Their biggest source of protein is usually soy. Most of...

Wow I had no idea. Thanks, I’m vegan now.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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all eat cheese But why do you need to eat cheese though? It’s incredibly unnecessary and only works to abuse the animals that produce it. Maybe step back and think about what you’re doing instead of assuming that “we all” need to eat cheese. Sorry but that’s what always gets me about talking to non-vegans. Unless you’re somewhere like the Arctic Circle you’re consuming animals solely for the pl...

Enjoy your cult, but vegan preaching is very 2005.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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Wow I had no idea. Thanks, I’m vegan now.

Make sure you tell everyone and tell them how they are supposed to live. Make sure to use a lot of fake science.

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gandalf_der_13te feddit.org gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
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Milk isn’t sustainable.

meanwhile the article literally mentions that this business has been going on for 800 years in italy.

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gandalf_der_13te feddit.org gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
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sure, you can even grow wheat in the desert, assuming you use enough artificial watering systems.

in fact many countries even do this.

this is egypt for example.

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Oh, so we can all eat cheese that tastes like window caulk.

You could always eat window caulk directly if it's that important to you

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gandalf_der_13te feddit.org gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
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Them using land is not the only thing they do. They drink water for example, a kg of cow meat requires 1000L of water. This is not a problem everywhere, but it can be. They eat grass and there are many places where they have the space and the climate to walk around and eat the grass that is there, but many places they need additional food. Their biggest source of protein is usually soy. Most of...

the treatment of animals is pretty bad in a lot of modern industrial setups. that doesn't mean that all milk products are bad, though. for example, things are very different if you look at italy, compared to the US.

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InvalidName2 lemmy.zip InvalidName2@lemmy.zip
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Can't we solve this problem like Elon would solve the problem and simply store the cheese in space?

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PodPerson lemmy.zip PodPerson@lemmy.zip
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Damn, Popular Mechanics. That pronoun usage is very grade school awful.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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More like $20k! Haha! Bilbo! Another round of cheese for Thorin's Dustr!

No, $1500-2000.

https://www.labottega.ca/products/parmigiano-reggiano-whole-wheel-approximately-35-kilograms

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Nouvellalia lemmy.world Nouvellalia@lemmy.world
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No, $1500-2000. https://www.labottega.ca/products/parmigiano-reggiano-whole-wheel-approximately-35-kilograms

It was a play on words.

round - a drink of liquor apiece served at one time to each person in a group
and
the fact that dwarves are prodigiously hungry and thirsty
gives us:
They would each require their own round of cheese for a round served to the group, which is what Thorin called to be delivered to the table. Hence the price tag.

But thank you for the earnest education on delicious cheese. The pungent, well aged cheeses have always been my favorite.

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SupraMario lemmy.world SupraMario@lemmy.world
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all eat cheese But why do you need to eat cheese though? It’s incredibly unnecessary and only works to abuse the animals that produce it. Maybe step back and think about what you’re doing instead of assuming that “we all” need to eat cheese. Sorry but that’s what always gets me about talking to non-vegans. Unless you’re somewhere like the Arctic Circle you’re consuming animals solely for the pl...

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kuiskaaja lemmy.ml kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml
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Milk isn’t sustainable. meanwhile the article literally mentions that this business has been going on for 800 years in italy.
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undefined lemmy.hogru.ch undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
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Tell me you know nothing about veganism without saying it.

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samsamsamsam discuss.online samsamsamsam@discuss.online
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Can't we solve this problem like Elon would solve the problem and simply store the cheese in space?

Only after announcing the cheese will be on Mars next year. Every year

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HeyJoe lemmy.world HeyJoe@lemmy.world
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Can't we solve this problem like Elon would solve the problem and simply store the cheese in space?

Then what would Italy be known for without it's cheese?

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kuiskaaja lemmy.ml kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml
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Then what would Italy be known for without it's cheese?
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antlion lemmy.dbzer0.com antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Make sure you tell everyone and tell them how they are supposed to live. Make sure to use a lot of fake science.

I already started posting it all over NextDoor. Next I’m going to protest the meat, wool, and egg vendors at farmers market tomorrow.

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DaGreenGobbo feddit.uk DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk
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Milk isn’t sustainable. meanwhile the article literally mentions that this business has been going on for 800 years in italy.

Do you think the amount of cheese eaten in Italy might have increased a bit over the last 800 years?

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fishy lemmy.today fishy@lemmy.today
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It was a play on words. round - a drink of liquor apiece served at one time to each person in a group and the fact that dwarves are prodigiously hungry and thirsty gives us: They would each require their own round of cheese for a round served to the group, which is what Thorin called to be delivered to the table. Hence the price tag. But thank you for the earnest education on delicious cheese. ...

I'm a big time nerd and your joke was too nerdy for me, that's really something!

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
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the treatment of animals is pretty bad in a lot of modern industrial setups. that doesn't mean that all milk products are bad, though. for example, things are very different if you look at italy, compared to the US.

True and inside those countries there can be big differences as well.

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WolfLink sh.itjust.works WolfLink@sh.itjust.works
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Can't we solve this problem like Elon would solve the problem and simply store the cheese in space?

Honestly storing cheese in space makes more sense than putting data centers in space

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ParadoxSeahorse lemmy.world ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world
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Ah Italy is on the moon

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so what you're saying is that it's the population density that's unsustainable? not the milk itself?

also do you have a link that it's unsustainable? because i'm not so sure about that. the world can currently produce about 2-3x the amount of food that we actually need, i don't see that declining by more than 60% any time soon.

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kuiskaaja lemmy.ml kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml
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so what you're saying is that it's the population density that's unsustainable? not the milk itself? also do you have a link that it's unsustainable? because i'm not so sure about that. the world can currently produce about 2-3x the amount of food that we actually need, i don't see that declining by more than 60% any time soon.
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz
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Milk has higher environmental impact than plant based milk ≠ milk is unsustainable.

Milk is in fact a very nutritious aliment and many parts of the world depend on it as base for nutrition.

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SupraMario lemmy.world SupraMario@lemmy.world
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Tell me you know nothing about veganism without saying it.

Naa I know plenty about it. As you militant vegans are all over lemmy. The joke here is that animals eat other animals....humans are no different, we're omnivores for a reason. You can act like plants can replace meat but the amount of nutrients from 4oz of meat vs 4oz of some plant is always going to be way out of proportion.

Plants require a lot of work as well. Most farms that produce meat, are not mega farms like you guys think. The majority of the farms here in the US are small operations, 1k or less head of cattle. They make up 90% of what is consumed. The cows drink, non-potable water. They eat mainly grass (you don't raise a cow on grain, shit is expensive when grass and roughage is free) and they don't require you to constantly fertilize the soil to grow something. On top of all this, the majority of what is fed to cows is grass/roughage, and then hay in the winter, which is just rolled up grass/roughage. The feed they finish cows with is non-eatable foods from plants you and I eat. Stalks, roots, stems...shit you cannot process. You think they take and just toss out the plant you're beans grow on? Hell no, it's turned into cattle feed.

So, yes I know a lot about this, because I own a farm and work closely with other farmers, who grow that plant based diet you eat... so be vegan all you want, no one is saying you can't, but don't come acting high and mighty because you don't want the rest of us to eat meat.

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qarbone lemmy.world qarbone@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

Can't we solve this problem like Elon would solve the problem and simply store the cheese in space?

I want quicker access to cheese than space.

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Missouri Cheese Much government cheese is stored in "Missouri cheese caves",[10] underground warehouses for storing and aging cheese in and around the Midwestern state of Missouri, part of a national network of such facilities.[11] An erroneous article by Modern Farmer began circulating on social media in 2022 implying all of the USDA's 1.5 billion pounds of cheese was stored in caves near Spri...

I want a cheese cave...

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"Once again the investor with the cheesiest portfolio comes out on top!"

eats cheese

"Oh no! I'm ruined!"

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GratefullyGodless lemmy.world GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world
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Imagine exploring some caves and just wandering into one of these vaults...

I think I know what the players in my D&D campaign will be wandering into next. Complete with cheese golems shaped like cows.

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Tanoh lemmy.world Tanoh@lemmy.world
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I think I know what the players in my D&D campaign will be wandering into next. Complete with cheese golems shaped like cows.

"I try to eat the cheese golem's head."

"Roll D20 for agility check."

*natural one*

"The golem is amused as it easily pulls away before you can sink your teeth into it, all you manage to chew on is your own hand and dignity. Roll D6 for finger damage and then golem attacks."

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