Emo Philips:

“Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “But nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?” He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What denomination?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him off the bridge.”

did it take him like half an hour to deliver that

Only if he tells it right!

Eh, I think protestantism and catholicism are actually pretty different. Even the local catholic churches can differ quite a lot between countries - e.g. Germany's catholic churches are generally a lot more progressive than those in Africa. And European lutheranism might as well be on a different planet compared to US evangelicalism.

And to many people the differences between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are negligible.

Sure, it's a matter of what particular aspects of religion you care about, and Judaism and Islam aren't monoliths, either.

Abrahamic religions basically

I think that the ridiculousness (ridiculosity?) of other's religions reflects the believer's own religion's absurdity, made especially worse, in my opinion, if it's only recognized on a subconscious level.

Like in the movie Fight Club when the narrator says he can't cry with another faker around.

There are 95 things that I would like to say on the matter. Give or take.

Nah it seems to apply in Asia as well. Just look at what the CCP are doing to the Tibetan Monks. And its not even the first time an emperor ordered a sect of Buddhist monks killed off.

Could you list the number that are alike?

The CCP are anti-religion, not Buddhist.

I wonder if Buddhist monks from thailand look at Buddhist monks from India like that Futurama Fry squint meme?

That has a name: narcissism of small differences.

Also relevant: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

"better a heathen than a heretic" is a refrain I have heard used without irony

They absolutely do.

I'm ont so sure about that. I think the dominant religion hate the miorities in history. Catholics did war on Jews, Protestants, Jews again and now they cannot stand Islam.

I just think clerical and political elites are afraid "the other" are coming for them. In other words this is racism.

Competition for membership and money. People changing from say christianity to islam or to buddhism is less likely, they’re outsiders and foreign, but not direct competitors. Making your version of Christianity more cult-ish by fomenting hatred of the similar competition to prevent people from leaving or losing church benefactors does the same thing.

Sports fans amirite?

Like, two massive fans of the same sport, but from a different city with a different team.

I'm rather inclined to start with the 95.

I'm pretty sure they don't if we define "hate" by things like Terrorism or Religious Discrimination instead of complaints at the BBQ, but sure, your local sect is so annoying.

Tell that to my parents.
Dad: Protestant
Mom: Catholic

But I'm the black sheep for being an Atheist

Yes, but god, what a delivery!

Van your put them somewhere where most people can read them, like on the door of the church

Then they don't understand them at all.

There are very foundational differences between them.

I say this as an irreligjous person who's studied world religions.

They only appear similar when viewed through a very low resolution/highly abstracted perspective.

Reminds me of the Family Guy bit:

“I’m a Seventh Day Adventist! We believe all the same things you do, but the sabbath is Saturday!”

“WHAT?!”

As far as I'm concerned, Religions are categorized first by who their god is so I'd lump these and more together.

Abrahamic Religions: The most prominent Abrahamic religions are Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.[3] They—alongside Samaritanism,[4] the Druze faith,[5] the Baháʼí Faith,[3] and the Rastafari movement[3]—all share a common belief in the God of Abraham. Likewise, the Abrahamic religions share similar features distinguishing them from other categories of religions:[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Abrahamic_religions

I think it's more that people hate people of other beliefs that live near to them. And when politics gets mixed with religion and then there's some violence, that's when it becomes a real feud.

I mean would there be so much hatred between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland if the British weren't Protestant?

Officially, yes but at least a third of the nation is secretly Buddhist and the CCP even have their own fake Panchen Lama working for the government.

Catholicism and protestantism have a long history of war and discrimination between them. It's arguable how much of that was actually about religion, but it certainly makes it easier to motivate the masses. It's less nowadays because most people in the west don't take religion seriously anymore, but I'd assume that US evangelicals still have strong opinions on Christians who believe the wrong thing. Not to mention all the Christians outside of the west (i.e. Africa, South America), who actually outnumber westerners.

Or even worse, when there's two major teams in the same city ...

TBF, the structural differences if the protestant faith and the catholic faith were viable at the start. The catholics had a reformation and because they actually looked at the protestant doctrines and were like "yeah, ya'know, fair" to a lot of them. Meanwhile, Protestantism got popular with the the elites because they misinterpreted Martin Luther's philosophy to basically say that just paying lip service to God can still get you into heaven and so they could save a bundle on tithes and treat faith a performance art. Which is how you got assholes like the Calvinists.

In case you were thinking I was feeding into the thesis of the thread, neither of them are wholly correct, which is true of most religions, but if you look at the them purely objectively, Catholicism is "more correct" than Protestantism, as Catholics at least expect their practitioners to perform "good works" in their communities as a requirement rather than a strong suggestion.

This is what I've been trying to convince my dad. He's Mormon and the modern Evangelical movement behind this fucjed up government couldn't hate Mormons more. I think because they are so similar they actually end up hating them more than people like atheists, but they are willing to work together to get rid of the other hated people before they turn on each other

I know about the 30 years war and whatnot, and it might have been necessary to at least mention the Troubles as a partially religious conflict between Catholics and Protestants that spawned the biggest terrorist attacks in the UK, or perhaps more noteworthy the relationship between Sunni and Shia Muslims and their majority countries...

But be fucking for real. If the West just doesn't care about religion any more, we wouldn't have religious discrimination. Do Catholics get more assaulted for their Religion than Muslims in the US? Are South American Catholics absolutely viscous when it comes to Christian Heretics but the same people are tolerant to Vodou? Are there any Evangelical Terror attacks in Kenya I missed?

You are denying reality justifying this.

Evangelicals believe in the trinity (Jesus being god) whereas Mormons believe Jesus was a prophet. In terms of religious doctrine Mormons and Evangelicals are planets apart.

About 1:20, and the text above even missed the fundamentalist/reformer step: https://youtu.be/ANNX_XiuA78

Mormons and Evangelicals are planets apart.

Only from the inside. Compared to even other abrahamic religions evangelical Christians and Mormons are very similar.

Sunni and shiite

"Hey, weren't you the Wako guys???"

Compared to South American and Africa, yes, most western countries are very secular societies nowadays and organized christianity has heavily declined, even a lot of places in the USA are rather secular nowadays.

I'd argue that anti-muslim violence in western countries is motivated more by general xenophobia and racism than religion, similar to how German Nazis weren't motivated by deep religiosity when they genocided Jews.

Only from the inside.

Yep, as someone raised without religion they pretty all look like the same stupid shit. The differences in practice have a lot more to do with the culture of the area than the text of their books.

I mean I can't say the entire community as a whole but I know sunni and shiite people who are friends with one another

As a former Mormon you are wrong but arguing about what some Christians believe and others don't is like the stupidest and most pointless type of conversation ever. My point was that they despise each other and you're kind of proving it

I just Googled it and it does appear to confirm what I said but Google is not that reliable when it comes to religious stuff. What is incorrect?

For every person, a unique religion. However, largely they do believe in God, the holy Ghost and Jesus. Their bullshit about the Trinity is just as weird and convoluted as any Christian denomination. I'm sorry I really can't discuss stupid pointless religious doctrine anymore, that's about as far as I go.

My point, however, is that their stupid, hateful asses really should be more closely aligned, but they are only aligned when you look at the people that they hate more than they hate each other. The second they run out of people they hate slightly more, they will slaughter each other out of hand.