Don't forget corruption

I mean its not "clean" its sterile, not "pretty" but empty of color and creativity, not "low crime" but void of human agency, not "high trust" but kept docile by threat of violence.

This guy free-runs.

You are free to admit you like dictatorships, extreme policing and eradication of creativity and human emotion.

If you look at the death star, see grey, white and black imperial uniforms, how terrified people are upon making a single mistake because those incur the death penalty, and the disregard for life, both of victims and their own troops, and you think "that's a society I want to live in" there is really nothing left to say.

It's clean tho!! Can't are argue with that, right?

Also lots of skyscrapers and a lack of old-city feel w/ culture and night life, lack of public transit & bicycle paths and mainwalks, lack of greenery.

as a treat

Anon didn't even make it past the intro cinematic. Truly the peak of media literacy.

“At least the trains ran on time” kinda attitude

China stands as a current authoritarian model which is being championed by people like Australian economist Steve Keen.

If you can handle the ethnic genocide, the lack of due process, suppression of information and free speech, and no democracy, you can look forward to clean streets, low crime, and high economic growth. Some people believe that's a worthy trade. I do not.

China stands as a current authoritarian model which is being championed by people like Australian economist Steve Keen.

Way to learn the exact wrong lesson from china.

China does a lot of good and a lot of bad.

We need to learn the pragmatism, government investment and holding private companies accountable part from them, not the censorship and surveillance.

I fear we are doing the opposite. Worst of both worlds.

How did that old joke go?

"Quebec could have gotten French food, American tech and British culture, but instead they chose French tech, American culture and British food"

the fact that the frame cap was 30fps and the game chugged during action sequences down to 20 or lower.

Good joke. They may have American culture, but goddamn the metal scene is fucking amazing

you expect people to engage with media? what is this, 2015?

This isn’t even touching the scene in the second d game where they forcibly implant her with a chip that puts ads in her vision

Do you happen to have some you can recommend? I'm trying to broaden my Metal-horizon.

Well they where!
Or else they would've been shot!

A horrible way to motivate trains, but they where motivated ;-)

Singapore did it first

Easily. Voivod, Gorguts, Beyond creation.

I can give specific albums/songs later.

Voivod : start with this cover of pink floyd's astronomy domine to see their aesthetics and to ease into the heaviness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIk7KcFAyf0

My favourite that shows their dynamicism and typical features :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Z1ryBN-FE

Albums to start with : Nothingface, Dimension Hatross

Gorguts : The albums to start with :
Colored sands
From Wisdom to hate.

Avoid Obscura until much later. Obscura is a brilliant and innovative cornerstone of tech death, but it's REALLY jarring and tiring to listen to. Don't start there and hate them.

Songs to start with :

Testimonial Ruins :
Instrumental, sick riffs, easy to follow. Dissonant, but stable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGLC6kHmMI

Wisdom to hate :
Catchy as fuck, full of hatred and history. Sets the frame nicely for the later album/song Pleiades Dust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIqaiEIVxk

Le Toit du monde:
Modern Gorguts for the modern person. Full of dynamic changes and interesting sections.
https://gorguts.bandcamp.com/track/le-toit-du-monde

Beyond creation :

So, there's been a few threads recently where people talk about how to discover music. Beyond creation is where the exercise is going to be left to the reader, because Forest, the original bass player is basically one of these supersocial people that connects fucking everyone together, and he's in every single fucking band. If you want more recs after listening to my offerings here, just check out the other bands he's in and the musicians those other bands are in, and you'll have more than enough recs to keep you busy.

Sous La Leur de this song is in french for once:
This is a great, well paced song with excellent use of fretless bass (like most songs by beyond), and one of the fun parts of listening to music with screaming vocals, that you can't even know what fucking language it's in. It took me a long time before I realised the song was in french.
https://beyondcreation.bandcamp.com/track/sous-la-lueur-de-lempereur

Social disability :
This song has a "you'll know when you hear it moment" that shows amazing dynamics and compositional craftsmanship that's always amazing to hear.
https://beyondcreation.bandcamp.com/track/social-disabillity

Agorythm(Surface's echoes):
I just wanted an example from the 3rd album, just to note that they slowed down a bit on purpose, but it didn't suffer that much. Surface's echoes is a good starting point :
https://beyondcreation.bandcamp.com/track/surfaces-echoes

Additional note : Forest is basically like Steve Di Giorgio for florida death metal, or Gene Hoglan, or Terry Bozzio or someone else where you just fucking look in any bands' discography, and, well, there he fucking goes. He's in this fucking band too. It's easier to say which bands they're not fucking in. Obviously, they aren't in all the bands at the same time, but they're just in at least on release at some point or another for these bands.

Post Script : I was really fucking bummed out at missing seeing Cynic peform live, not just because its fucking CYNIC but because they had Beyond Creation opening for them, and I really really do I like what BC does with the fretless bass.

Post Post Script : Fuck it, check out first fragment while you're at it, it's Forest's other band.
Also, Forest peformed in a tour for gorguts when Colin was unavailable.
https://uniqueleaderrecords.bandcamp.com/track/solus

updated my original recommendation with songs and albums :

https://lemmy.world/post/51051109/25462504

Thank you very much for that essayon music ^^, appreciate it. I'll give them a listen for sure.

My current song that i can't let go is- let me sleep,by Paleface Swiss and- headbutt by Igorrr.

Games in the 2000s

Intelligent beings have known that for decades or even centuries.

Yeah, I'm at a point where I kinda hope China becomes the world overlord... I'd rather "fuck you, society comes first" than "fuck you, billionaires come first".

I’d rather “fuck you, society comes first” than “fuck you, billionaires come first”.

the problem is that it's on a knife edge of if it's truly "society first" or "the communist party and current premier first". Just like the soviet union.

headbutt by Igorrr.

fucking yeah. The real gold is trying to get the hyper-fusion bands related to Igorrr, through Timb Harris, Estradasphere and Secret Chiefs 3, through Nils and Antony Pryapisme.

Corpo mente and Öxxö Xööx are good too, just the other bands are fucking astronomically amazing.

let me sleep,by Paleface Swiss

Thanks for the rec, I've head good things about Paleface Swiss and never checked them out

Okay dystopian hellscape aside the sound track was banging for this game

Being in the in group under fascism needs to have its perks, otherwise there would be no incentive.

China has a fuck you business comes first attitude. Most of government investment is into business not into things that help people. Their health care system is shit, theyve got a ton of poverty and low wage slavery. The standard of living is going up because it was rock bottom.

French tech

French engineering is world class, don't know why they get ragged on