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onionsinmypores
sh.itjust.works
onionsinmypores@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-10-14 |
The app ID is Starting September 30, developers (signing authors) need to be verified from Google to distribute apps in the following app stores:
only in the countries of Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore and Thailand. F-Droid is not included for this time. It is planned to be rolled out globally across all markets/app stores by January of 2027. Relevant sources: I used App Manager (io.github.muntashirakon.AppManager) for the screenshot; you can use your regular 'Installed Apps'/'Apps' menu to see if it's been rolled out automatically for you as well. edit: First link was originally a typo, my bad. Fixed it. |
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onionsinmypores
sh.itjust.works
onionsinmypores@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-10-14 |
Update: Interestingly, since it is still classed as a User app, I can uninstall it myself without any special perms. The installation source is shown as Google Play Store, and you can manually find the app on the store. Here's a screenshot of that - though it has no ratings, reviews, options to review etc. that you would expect from ordinary or even other Google produced apps. |
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furry toaster
lemmy.blahaj.zone
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-01-04 |
I have Xiaomi POCO M3 5G on Brazil and nothig has changed at all, maybe becayse I already have all google pre installed system apps disabled |
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StillAlive
piefed.world
StillAlive@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-11-09 |
Got on my Motorola too |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
No idea where you are nor which phone you have, but maybe it's time to install an Android alternative OS (not sure what to call it) like GrapheneOS, LineageOS, or eOS. From what I understand they don't allow this kind of shit. |
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nieceandtows
programming.dev
nieceandtows@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-20 |
On my pixel 10, I see this app is installed with only the option to disable, not uninstall. |
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krigo666
lemmy.world
krigo666@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
No idea where you are nor which phone you have, but maybe it's time to install an Android alternative OS (not sure what to call it) like GrapheneOS, LineageOS, or eOS. From what I understand they don't allow this kind of shit.
My daily driver is now a Jolla Phone (2026), still have my Fairphone 6 with /e/OS. |
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Crit
lemmy.wtf
Crit@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2026-04-09 |
Thanks OP, uninstalled |
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I Cast Fist
programming.dev
ICastFist@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-22 |
No idea where you are nor which phone you have, but maybe it's time to install an Android alternative OS (not sure what to call it) like GrapheneOS, LineageOS, or eOS. From what I understand they don't allow this kind of shit.
Easier said than done, especially as there are more models that don't have any sort of support for those OSs than models that do. Not to mention the hassle to even enable the option to flash it and risk of bricking. Worse, banking apps may refuse to work. Google and the OEMs never wanted you to own your phone and they are mostly winning on that front. |
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Squizzy
lemmy.world
Squizzy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
On my pixel 10, I see this app is installed with only the option to disable, not uninstall.
Same |
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Appoxo
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-01 |
How-To:
Source: |
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bad1080
piefed.social
bad1080@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-27 |
I have Xiaomi POCO M3 5G on Brazil and nothig has changed at all, maybe becayse I already have all google pre installed system apps disabled
unless you use a de-googled rom google play services can't be disabled |
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AndyMFK
lemmy.dbzer0.com
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-03-09 |
Update: Interestingly, since it is still classed as a User app, I can uninstall it myself without any special perms. The installation source is shown as Google Play Store, and you can manually find the app on the store. Here's a screenshot of that - though it has no ratings, reviews, options to review etc. that you would expect from ordinary or even other Google produced apps.
Thanks, I just checked and it was installed so I've uninstalled it |
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zout
fedia.io
zout@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-16 |
F-Droid is not included for this time. How-To: Open Developer Options and select Apps from unverified developers. Turn on Allow apps from unverified developers. Authenticate using your screen lock. Confirm that nobody is pressuring you to change the setting. Restart your phone and wait 24 hours. Return to the setting and choose whether to allow apps from unverified developers for seven days or ...
That's some pretty big hurdles to be honest, just a reminder of how sketchy Google is these days. |
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zout
fedia.io
zout@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-16 |
Update: Interestingly, since it is still classed as a User app, I can uninstall it myself without any special perms. The installation source is shown as Google Play Store, and you can manually find the app on the store. Here's a screenshot of that - though it has no ratings, reviews, options to review etc. that you would expect from ordinary or even other Google produced apps.
I can find it there, but only uninstall updates. Guess it's ADB time. |
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myster0n
feddit.nl
myster0n@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-08-15 |
On my pixel 10, I see this app is installed with only the option to disable, not uninstall.
Same on my Samsung |
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untorquer
quokk.au
untorquer@quokk.au Joined: 2025-12-03 |
On my pixel 10, I see this app is installed with only the option to disable, not uninstall.
Goto "app details" at the bottom of the settings page for the app. Then select "uninstall updates" should no longer appear in app list. |
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Appoxo
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-01 |
That's some pretty big hurdles to be honest, just a reminder of how sketchy Google is these days.
Less issue for me than Apple lol. You can always (for now) go to LineageOS or GrapheneOS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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decolo
piefed.social
decolo@piefed.social Joined: 2026-06-29 |
My daily driver is now a Jolla Phone (2026), still have my Fairphone 6 with /e/OS.
I'd love to hear how that is going for you, if you have time |
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Zedstrian
sopuli.xyz
Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-03-30 |
Less issue for me than Apple lol. You can always (for now) go to LineageOS or GrapheneOS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Every shift away from open Android that users accept emboldens Google to lock it down further. |
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zout
fedia.io
zout@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-16 |
Less issue for me than Apple lol. You can always (for now) go to LineageOS or GrapheneOS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not if you want your banking app to work, or some other apps that require you to have the "certified" os on your phone. If I have to stop using these apps, I might as well go back to a dumbphone. |
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NakedNateRollerSkate
lemmy.dbzer0.com
NakedNateRollerSkate@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-04-17 |
Other than affecting the general open source app community as a whole, does anyone know how this will affect Graphene IS phones yet? I haven't seen a good discussion on it yet. |
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FunnySalt
lemmy.dbzer0.com
FunnySalt@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-12-12 |
Easier said than done, especially as there are more models that don't have any sort of support for those OSs than models that do. Not to mention the hassle to even enable the option to flash it and risk of bricking. Worse, banking apps may refuse to work. Google and the OEMs never wanted you to own your phone and they are mostly winning on that front.
This is a big hurdle. I had to buy a different phone to install a custom ROM. I bought it used, but even so still fairly expensive. And an extra cost can be a limiting factor too.
GrapheneOS has a webUSB installer that is very easy to use. I would argue it eliminates the hassle. Bricking is still a risk.
I don't use banking apps on my phone. I don't like having anything installed that has access to money. I just access my financial institutions via their website. But I acknowledge they may fill some need others have that I do not. And that not everyone has access to a computer to access websites , and I can see banks trying to force app use when accessing from a mobile browser. |
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PointlessLifePersonified
slrpnk.net
PointlessLifePersonified@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-11 |
Goto "app details" at the bottom of the settings page for the app. Then select "uninstall updates" should no longer appear in app list.
"App details" is greyed out for me. Pixel 7 Pro. Edit: never mind - it was because I had the Play Store disabled. Not that it'll mean much, but I flagged the app as inappropriate while I was there. Edit 2: Wow, they're paying for fake reviews that are blatantly a bad joke. |
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RedGreenBlue
lemmy.zip
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
Next phone will be a serious attempt at a linux phone. |
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Appoxo
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Every shift away from open Android that users accept emboldens Google to lock it down further.
Switching from Android to Apple is really smart lol. |
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Zedstrian
sopuli.xyz
Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-03-30 |
Switching from Android to Apple is really smart lol. Why would you even switch from a pretty much open system to a fully closed one (even with the things the EU forces Apple to do)? (This questions excludes Linux OSs on smartphones)
Apple is of course still far worse, but users shouldn't be accepting Google's changes to Android without complaint. |
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MonkderVierte
lemmy.zip
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-05-30 |
Hm? Aurora crashes if you select that app. Not on any other. |
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Jakeroxs
sh.itjust.works
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Not if you want your banking app to work, or some other apps that require you to have the "certified" os on your phone. If I have to stop using these apps, I might as well go back to a dumbphone.
Web browsers exist still, though some particularly shitty sites don't even have a mobile web view these days. |
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dcooksta26
lemmy.world
dcooksta26@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Not if you want your banking app to work, or some other apps that require you to have the "certified" os on your phone. If I have to stop using these apps, I might as well go back to a dumbphone.
Luckily, I don't have any day-to-day services that require I use an app. |
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lemmysmash
piefed.social
lemmysmash@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-26 |
Block it, them spam your manufacturer with support requests. Make it their problem. |
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REDACTED
infosec.pub
REDACTED@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-02-05 |
Weird, I could uninstall it (and the key verifier one too), and so I did. Yeah, this is definitely not going to come back to bite me in the ass EDIT: OnePlus Open, I haven't unlocked bootloader or rooted it. |
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lost_faith
lemmy.ca
lost_faith@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-02-13 |
Weird, I could uninstall it (and the key verifier one too), and so I did. Yeah, this is definitely not going to come back to bite me in the ass EDIT: OnePlus Open, I haven't unlocked bootloader or rooted it.
Been using my pixel 6, according to the app list it has been "used since Aug 13" I cannot archive(greyed out), disable says (get this) "It came preinstalled on my device" funny since I've been using this device for years and by its own account was just installed aug 13 |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
F-Droid is not included for this time. How-To: Open Developer Options and select Apps from unverified developers. Turn on Allow apps from unverified developers. Authenticate using your screen lock. Confirm that nobody is pressuring you to change the setting. Restart your phone and wait 24 hours. Return to the setting and choose whether to allow apps from unverified developers for seven days or ...
Only for stock android, right? |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
Easier said than done, especially as there are more models that don't have any sort of support for those OSs than models that do. Not to mention the hassle to even enable the option to flash it and risk of bricking. Worse, banking apps may refuse to work. Google and the OEMs never wanted you to own your phone and they are mostly winning on that front.
Could go back to a flip phone tbh. Only got a FF4 a few months ago and put calyx on it, used a flip phone before that for a few years. |
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Flyswat
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-08-16 |
Not if you want your banking app to work, or some other apps that require you to have the "certified" os on your phone. If I have to stop using these apps, I might as well go back to a dumbphone.
I used Magisk for that on LineageOS |
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Turret3857
infosec.pub
Turret3857@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-10-09 |
Been using my pixel 6, according to the app list it has been "used since Aug 13" I cannot archive(greyed out), disable says (get this) "It came preinstalled on my device" funny since I've been using this device for years and by its own account was just installed aug 13
You can probably get rid of it by installing GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, iodéOS, or LineageOS, unless youre in the US and bought the phone from Verizon |
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Turret3857
infosec.pub
Turret3857@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-10-09 |
Next phone will be a serious attempt at a linux phone.
At this time it is currently better to go with a custom Android ROM. Linux phones are currently have almost 0 security. I say almost 0 because postmarketos does support LUKS encryption, but only on some devices, and pmos uses an "upstream kernel" update model for devices, so a lot of the drivers for supported phones are not fully complete. None of them have sandboxing, or measured boot, and excluding postmarketos, none of them get driver level security updates either. |
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Turret3857
infosec.pub
Turret3857@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-10-09 |
Other than affecting the general open source app community as a whole, does anyone know how this will affect Graphene IS phones yet? I haven't seen a good discussion on it yet.
It will not affect GrapheneOS (or any custom ROM built without unsandboxed Google Services) as the delivery method for the update requires Google Play services have full admin access to the device to install it. |
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Turret3857
infosec.pub
Turret3857@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-10-09 |
Not if you want your banking app to work, or some other apps that require you to have the "certified" os on your phone. If I have to stop using these apps, I might as well go back to a dumbphone.
My bank currently works but in the past it hasnt and the website worked just fine for the period of time the app didnt work. |
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Turret3857
infosec.pub
Turret3857@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-10-09 |
Could go back to a flip phone tbh. Only got a FF4 a few months ago and put calyx on it, used a flip phone before that for a few years.
If you care about security in any capacity I would advise against a flip phone |
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furry toaster
lemmy.blahaj.zone
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-01-04 |
unless you use a de-googled rom google play services can't be disabled
wrong, just use adb |
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bad1080
piefed.social
bad1080@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-27 |
wrong, just use adb
ok but let's hope you never have to factory reset your phone or do an android update because otherwise you end up right where you started |
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Uri
infosec.pub
Uri@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-02-10 |
What if you unistall it |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
If you care about security in any capacity I would advise against a flip phone
Its only to receive calls from people and employers who still use phone/SMS as a contact method. Anything important can be done on a Linux PC. So then the question is how portable of a Linux PC can I comfortably get. |
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vogi
piefed.social
vogi@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-09-07 |
Not if you want your banking app to work, or some other apps that require you to have the "certified" os on your phone. If I have to stop using these apps, I might as well go back to a dumbphone.
My Bank works even without microG or some other Google supplement. It does show a warning on the initial boot that it might not, but it does. They also do not require to have the app, but its still nice to have. |
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vogi
piefed.social
vogi@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-09-07 |
What happens if you try to install an unverified apk now? Like is there a message or something? Does it go away after just uninstalling the developer verifier? |
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Psythik
lemmy.world
Psythik@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-21 |
What if you unistall it
You can't without ADB but you can disable it. |
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Psythik
lemmy.world
Psythik@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-21 |
What happens if you try to install an unverified apk now? Like is there a message or something? Does it go away after just uninstalling the developer verifier?
This app also got silently installed on my device, but I just updated YouTube Morphe and there was no issue. So for now the app doesn't appear to do anything. I disabled it and will be uninstalling with ADB soon. |
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vogi
piefed.social
vogi@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-09-07 |
This app also got silently installed on my device, but I just updated YouTube Morphe and there was no issue. So for now the app doesn't appear to do anything. I disabled it and will be uninstalling with ADB soon.
Ah okey, thanks for the info :) |
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benjirenji
slrpnk.net
benjirenji@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-04-13 |
Easier said than done, especially as there are more models that don't have any sort of support for those OSs than models that do. Not to mention the hassle to even enable the option to flash it and risk of bricking. Worse, banking apps may refuse to work. Google and the OEMs never wanted you to own your phone and they are mostly winning on that front.
Just buy a phone that comes preinstalled without Google. My banking apps all work. Some of the shittier apps that force you to watch ads break though. |
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