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Mrsilkworm piefed.social mrsilkworm@piefed.social
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CaptainBasculin lemmy.dbzer0.com CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-01-17
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Stuff like this drives the motivation behind console modders.

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MrSulu lemmy.ml MrSulu@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-23
#3 · Quote Reply

Aaarrrrggghhhh!

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dil lemmy.zip dil@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-05
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Optimistic me thinks they are bringing PS store/library to pc and this is needed. Optimistic me is barely holding on.

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GottaHaveFaith fedia.io GottaHaveFaith@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-07-08
#5 · Quote Reply

Optimistic me thinks they are bringing PS store/library to pc and this is needed. Optimistic me is barely holding on.

didn't they announce they were stopping porting games to PC? I liked uncharted 4 so much :P

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Lantsu sopuli.xyz manuremy@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2026-03-13
#6 · Quote Reply

Oh no, how will this affect my offline-PS3 and it's offline games?? :o

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sidebro lemmy.zip sidebro@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-09-17
#7 · Quote Reply

This excuses piracy.

And whenever I want to pay for a game, I will do it through GOG.

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fckreddit lemmy.ml fckreddit@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-26
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Then, I purchase no games, which I cannot own anyway. Good riddance. I stopped gaming pretty much all the time.

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PrincessCory lemmy.wtf PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2025-06-30
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I dont own a sony or any other console but i dont understand one thing here.

As far as i know, dvd discs and cd-s had about 4GB memory max if am not mistaking.
It was long time since we stoped using them.

So how can modern games that are like 200GB in size fit on any cd..? 🤔

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mysterious_cake feddit.nl mysterious_cake@feddit.nl
Joined: 2026-04-30
#10 · Quote Reply

I dont own a sony or any other console but i dont understand one thing here. As far as i know, dvd discs and cd-s had about 4GB memory max if am not mistaking. It was long time since we stoped using them. So how can modern games that are like 200GB in size fit on any cd..? 🤔

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

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pipes sh.itjust.works pipes@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-04
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I dont own a sony or any other console but i dont understand one thing here. As far as i know, dvd discs and cd-s had about 4GB memory max if am not mistaking. It was long time since we stoped using them. So how can modern games that are like 200GB in size fit on any cd..? 🤔

UHD Blu-rays go up to 100GB so that covers many games, for more than that it'd have to be a digital download I guess

The PlayStation 3 was the first console to use (standard) Blu-rays, 20 years ago :) some people argued it was cheaper than dedicated BD players, many used it to watch movies.

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Don't forget to stay hydrated.🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉 sh.itjust.works testaccount789@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-16
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UHD Blu-rays go up to 100GB so that covers many games, for more than that it'd have to be a digital download I guess The PlayStation 3 was the first console to use (standard) Blu-rays, 20 years ago :) some people argued it was cheaper than dedicated BD players, many used it to watch movies.

That's just triple layer. Quad layer goes up to 128GB.

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ITGuyLevi programming.dev ITGuyLevi@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-02
#13 · Quote Reply

If the button said "Buy" or "Purchase", ownership of that item is transferred (obviously not the IP itself). After you buy it, the supreme court has weighed in that you can make your own backups of "media" previously so Sony can fuck right off.

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SatyrSack quokk.au SatyrSack@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-08-25
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UHD Blu-rays go up to 100GB so that covers many games, for more than that it'd have to be a digital download I guess The PlayStation 3 was the first console to use (standard) Blu-rays, 20 years ago :) some people argued it was cheaper than dedicated BD players, many used it to watch movies.

UHD Blu-rays go up to 100GB so that covers many games, for more than that it’d have to be a digital download I guess

We used to deal with games that came as multiple discs. We can do that again, if we have to.

But, I would personally rather see DRM-free digital downloads for many reasons.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
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Remind me to pirate sony games.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
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I dont own a sony or any other console but i dont understand one thing here. As far as i know, dvd discs and cd-s had about 4GB memory max if am not mistaking. It was long time since we stoped using them. So how can modern games that are like 200GB in size fit on any cd..? 🤔

New computers don't even take cd's anymore. They are shit compared to computers 15 years ago. Less ports, task manager doesn't work, it's more awkward to do anything as they made everything less functional.

You can't take the battery out anymore. If your computer gets compromised you are supposed to just let them spy on you I suppose, task manager is now worthless for sussing out and stopping malware.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
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If the button said "Buy" or "Purchase", ownership of that item is transferred (obviously not the IP itself). After you buy it, the supreme court has weighed in that you can make your own backups of "media" previously so Sony can fuck right off.

SCOTUS has endorsed the terms and conditions they make you sign and allowed them to do things like making you waive your right to sue and instead use binding arbitration of their choosing, and making you agree to not actually own this as such.

What you say was true 26 years ago or more, it's not now. We are well on to our way of owning nothing and renting everything we own in truth even if not in law.

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apotheotic (she/her) beehaw.org apotheotic@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-07-11
#18 · Quote Reply

This excuses piracy. And whenever I want to pay for a game, I will do it through GOG.

Hard to even want to support gog, with the Nazi stunt

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julieff7 lemmy.blahaj.zone julieff7@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-11-12
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Hard to even want to support gog, with the Nazi stunt

What did I miss? 😳

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pressedhams lemmy.blahaj.zone pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-05-13
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New computers don't even take cd's anymore. They are shit compared to computers 15 years ago. Less ports, task manager doesn't work, it's more awkward to do anything as they made everything less functional. You can't take the battery out anymore. If your computer gets compromised you are supposed to just let them spy on you I suppose, task manager is now worthless for sussing out and stopping malware.

Sounds like you’re on the cusp of leaving Windows. Excellent.

I recommend Mint.

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apotheotic (she/her) beehaw.org apotheotic@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-07-11
#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

What did I miss? 😳

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/we-made-a-series-of-mistakes-gog-apologise-for-emailing-nazi-symbols-to-people-in-newsletter-about-slavic-fantasy-game

Tl;Dr

Sent out very Nazi symbology

Got feedback from German qa that it was Nazi symbology

Removed it only from the German emails and sent the Nazi symbology to everyone else

Oops sorry when they got called out

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mk_machinist lem.cochrun.xyz mk_machinist@lem.cochrun.xyz
Joined: 2026-08-26
#22 · Quote Reply

The small operators feel this one first, every single time.

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Vendetta9076 sh.itjust.works Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-08
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New computers don't even take cd's anymore. They are shit compared to computers 15 years ago. Less ports, task manager doesn't work, it's more awkward to do anything as they made everything less functional. You can't take the battery out anymore. If your computer gets compromised you are supposed to just let them spy on you I suppose, task manager is now worthless for sussing out and stopping malware.

These are all issues that can be fixed with a framework laptop running Linux. I'd recommend the switch to one or both of these things :)

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degen midwest.social degen@midwest.social
Joined: 2023-06-15
#24 · Quote Reply

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/we-made-a-series-of-mistakes-gog-apologise-for-emailing-nazi-symbols-to-people-in-newsletter-about-slavic-fantasy-game Tl;Dr Sent out very Nazi symbology Got feedback from German qa that it was Nazi symbology Removed it only from the German emails and sent the Nazi symbology to everyone else Oops sorry when they got called out

You're being very disingenuous. Did you read the article?

The Sowilo rune is part of my cultural and historical heritage. As a Pole, I am fully aware of both its history and the sensitivities surrounding it. Its use in this promotion was intended solely as a reference to the sun, which is central to the game being promoted. What was displayed in several devices as doppelrune is out of our control. ᛋ was displayed as ϟ on several devices (might display for you differently here as well just letting you know). We should pay more attention to checking it on different systems and devices. I also recognise that placing two such runes next to each other could create an unfortunate association with symbols used by the Nazi regime. This was noticed before distribution, and out of respect for local sensitivities, the material was not sent to the German community.

At the same time, I do not believe that symbols with a history spanning more than a thousand years should be defined solely by their misuse in the modern history. Allowing that would mean accepting that those who corrupted these symbols now own their meaning. As a Pole, I have every reason to treat this history with seriousness and respect. Precisely because of that, I reject any suggestion that this promotion carried an extremist message. It did not. It was a reference to the historical symbol of the sun, nothing more.

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cepelinas sopuli.xyz cepelinas@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-01-14
#25 · Quote Reply

These are all issues that can be fixed with a framework laptop running Linux. I'd recommend the switch to one or both of these things :)

Where are you putting a cd drive in a framework?

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mk_machinist lem.cochrun.xyz mk_machinist@lem.cochrun.xyz
Joined: 2026-08-26
#26 · Quote Reply

This matches my experience exactly.

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DebatableRaccoon lemmy.ca DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-24
#27 · Quote Reply

Then their 'Buy' and 'Purchase' buttons are false advertising. 'Rent' is the word they're looking for.

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Vendetta9076 sh.itjust.works Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-08
#28 · Quote Reply

Where are you putting a cd drive in a framework?

Valid point. I was talking more about the ports. Still tho usb cd drives are incredibly cheap and damn reliable.

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DebatableRaccoon lemmy.ca DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-24
#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

UHD Blu-rays go up to 100GB so that covers many games, for more than that it'd have to be a digital download I guess The PlayStation 3 was the first console to use (standard) Blu-rays, 20 years ago :) some people argued it was cheaper than dedicated BD players, many used it to watch movies.

It would also seem people have forgotten the Installation disc that was common towards the end of the 360 era. The PS3 already copied the whole Blu-ray to storage with the only real difference being it was quicker to copy physical than to rely on PSN's awful bandwidth. A lot of people still have crappy imternet so it makes no sense to take away the option to wait a day for a box with 2 discs to arrive.

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DebatableRaccoon lemmy.ca DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-24
#30 · Quote Reply

Optimistic me thinks they are bringing PS store/library to pc and this is needed. Optimistic me is barely holding on.

They aren't. The Wall™ is being erected around PSN.

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apotheotic (she/her) beehaw.org apotheotic@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-07-11
#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

You're being very disingenuous. Did you read the article? The Sowilo rune is part of my cultural and historical heritage. As a Pole, I am fully aware of both its history and the sensitivities surrounding it. Its use in this promotion was intended solely as a reference to the sun, which is central to the game being promoted. What was displayed in several devices as doppelrune is out of our contr...

I'm not being disingenuous, I'm just being less charitable. The point of a dogwhistle is that it has plausible deniability.

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Mac mander.xyz Mac@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-14
#32 · Quote Reply

You're being very disingenuous. Did you read the article? The Sowilo rune is part of my cultural and historical heritage. As a Pole, I am fully aware of both its history and the sensitivities surrounding it. Its use in this promotion was intended solely as a reference to the sun, which is central to the game being promoted. What was displayed in several devices as doppelrune is out of our contr...

If it's so non-sus, then why self censored lol

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ITGuyLevi programming.dev ITGuyLevi@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-02
#33 · Quote Reply

SCOTUS has endorsed the terms and conditions they make you sign and allowed them to do things like making you waive your right to sue and instead use binding arbitration of their choosing, and making you agree to not actually own this as such. What you say was true 26 years ago or more, it's not now. We are well on to our way of owning nothing and renting everything we own in truth even if not in law.

True, but while I have access to something I back it up by nature. They can probably take it off of something they can access but those devices don't have access to my whole network so I'm gonna stick with my original thought, Sony can fuck right off.

(Really good points though)

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PrincessCory lemmy.wtf PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2025-06-30
#34 · Quote Reply

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

Wow didnt know about this 🫢

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PrincessCory lemmy.wtf PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2025-06-30
#35 · Quote Reply

New computers don't even take cd's anymore. They are shit compared to computers 15 years ago. Less ports, task manager doesn't work, it's more awkward to do anything as they made everything less functional. You can't take the battery out anymore. If your computer gets compromised you are supposed to just let them spy on you I suppose, task manager is now worthless for sussing out and stopping malware.

I use desktop pc and linux on it, so am pretty satisfied with it.

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Hirom beehaw.org Hirom@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-03-02
#36 · (edited) Quote Reply

Do players even own PlayStation consoles? Sony arbitrarily restrict what operating system run on hardware people buy from them.

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NGC2346 sh.itjust.works NGC2346@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-11
#37 · Quote Reply

I stopped buying consoles years ago but Sony can gargle my balls with choco milk

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Wireless Dirk ani.social Wireless_Dirk@ani.social
Joined: 2026-08-17
#38 · Quote Reply

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melsaskca lemmy.ca melsaskca@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-09
#39 · Quote Reply

I bought the first Queen album on vinyl. Then 8-track. Then cassette. Then compact disc. I finally pirated the digital version. I owned every piece of media that the album came on with the exception of the pirated copy (which I could have digitized from my compact disc). In not one case has a company ever came into my home and said "You have to give that back, but no refund though". This makes no sense.

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SpaceCrystal lemmy.ml SpaceCrystal@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-31
#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

This is why PC gaming is more superior to home gaming consoles that are riddled with DRM. At least you own digital copies of games that you buy on there.

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Kissaki lemmy.dbzer0.com Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-18
#41 · Quote Reply

If labeling buttons "buy" is illegal when it's not buying to own but subscriptions, "pre-order" should be illegal too. "Ordering a license" doesn't make much sense between expectation and differentiation to (owning) products.

If buttons are labeled "Rent" and "Schedule Rent", do you think it would have an impact? Significant impact?

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#42 · Quote Reply

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I mean PS2 was pretty peak as well

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ProgrammingSocks pawb.social ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-18
#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

This is why PC gaming is more superior to home gaming consoles that are riddled with DRM. At least you own digital copies of games that you buy on there.

Only true on DRM free marketplaces. Nearly only GOG. Not Steam - you are very much at the mercy of their TOS, it's just a better TOS. But we shouldn't rely on merciful kings.

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Auli lemmy.ca Auli@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#44 · Quote Reply

If it's so non-sus, then why self censored lol

Its impossible to do anything these days. People well find anything to dig up. Might as well shut it all down.

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