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US Politician on privacy rights: “You can’t have your privacy violated if you don’t know your privacy was violated”
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Ajuy lemmy.world Amine_Jouahri@lemmy.world
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If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated

This was the Chairman of the US Intelligence Committee

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PierceTheBubble lemmy.ml PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-07
#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

Did you really get raped, or did the roofie I put in your drink do its job?

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Walters, Fern bookwyr.me waltersf@bookwyr.me
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Mike Rogers has been IGNORING privacy violation complaints for ten years*!

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lmdnw lemmy.world lmdnw@lemmy.world
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Mike Rogers deserves to not ever feel safe or secure. I hope he dies.

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Chulk lemmy.ml Chulk@lemmy.ml
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This is the guy Abdul El-Sayed is running against.

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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Alrighty, so we'll install hidden cameras in all the showers in your home. You won't know about it, so you won't mind either

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subterfuge lemmy.world subterfuge@lemmy.world
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“You can’t have a home invasion if you don’t know the robber is hiding in the closet”

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dan1101 lemmy.world dan1101@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

No that's a violation of the law, your trust, and your privacy.

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arotrios lemmy.world arotrios@lemmy.world
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reallykindasorta slrpnk.net reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net
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When you find out are you allowed to care in retrospect?

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BrickEater lemmy.world BrickEater@lemmy.world
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This is the type of motherfucker to say:

"Well I raped you while you were drunk asleep, and you didn't wake up, so was it really rape?"

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Waraugh lemmy.dbzer0.com Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Wasn’t this from over a decade ago?

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mcv lemmy.zip mcv@lemmy.zip
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#13 · Quote Reply

A tree didn't fall in the forest if you didn't hear the tree fall in the forest.

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eldavi lemmy.ml eldavi@lemmy.ml
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#14 · Quote Reply

i thought that guy had sworn off suits for good

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DanceMomsSavedMe lemmy.zip DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip
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Mike Rogers deserves to not ever feel safe or secure. I hope he dies.

Well I have some good news for you!

Just not yet lol

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dylanmorgan slrpnk.net dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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“Congressman, here is a supercut of every time you’ve taken a shit in the last five years. I’ve been posting updates on an invite-only website. Every member of your staff is in there, and they LOVE seeing each pained expression you make. But you didn’t know, so I didn’t violate your privacy.”

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hneerqe lemmy.world hneerqe@lemmy.world
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They could as well publicly and really piss and shit all over these hearings at this point.

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Zerush lemmy.ml Zerush@lemmy.ml
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People in the US have less privacy rights than Chinese people. They have the amount of privacy that corporations permits.

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mk_machinist lem.cochrun.xyz mk_machinist@lem.cochrun.xyz
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distal lemmy.ml distal@lemmy.ml
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#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

If I kill someone without them noticing I would not be a murderer by that logic.

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distal lemmy.ml distal@lemmy.ml
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When you find out are you allowed to care in retrospect?

Apparently this guy is Abdul El-Sayed's opponent

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AntiOutsideAktion lemmy.ml AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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What do you MEAN 'if we don't know'??

EVERYBODY FUCKING KNOWS

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Folstar lemmus.org Folstar@lemmus.org
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Hey look, yet another GQP talking point that boils down to not understanding (or willfully dismissing) the idea of consent. Rapists one and all.

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redkid1324 sh.itjust.works redkid1324@sh.itjust.works
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#24 · Quote Reply

Really? The Schrodinger defense?

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BillCheddar lemmy.world BillCheddar@lemmy.world
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It's not a crime if it's not discovered?

Someone ought to tell his wife to get STI tests done pronto.

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Trilogy3452 lemmy.world Trilogy3452@lemmy.world
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Doomsider lemmy.world Doomsider@lemmy.world
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It's not a crime if it's not discovered? Someone ought to tell his wife to get STI tests done pronto.

To a Republican? The answer is a resounding yes!

And if it is discovered, it is the fault of the person discovering obviously.

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dropdrip lemmy.ml dropdrip@lemmy.ml
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#28 · (edited) Quote Reply

The American intelligence apparatuses had been using this line of reasoning to legalize their illegal operations from the start: computers collecting data on citizens are not committing 'surveillance'. If a human needs to assess that data then they apply for a rubber stamp from the state to allow surveillance of a human, but for the computer to collect and asses? There was never a need to seek authorization: it's not surveillance. Computers collecting data and autonomously acting on that data--even to kill--can never be illegal. Welcome to the United State of Ammerikkka.

That's to say: it never mattered. The verbal affluent to legitimize what they're doing is just that. To people ignorant of computers it may have sounded reasonable back then, given it was dressed up enough, but in the day of computer-controlled economies and warfare I don't think it can stand anymore even to a moron.

It can't change though as changing would necessitate all the current political and economic structures to change: to voluntary put in excruciating effort to give up power. Not only are you asking those in power to debase themselves, but to also debase all those around them. It cannot happen.

What can happen and what should happen is that you should act. You are in control of you: liberate your computers. Not only is this something that is possible, but you are also empowering yourself. When you do this you inversely disempower the polities and economic controls that are superstructures built on this foundation of computer-surveillance and -manipulation.

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bobbyfiend retrolemmy.com bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com
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#29 · Quote Reply

And somehow voyeurism is still illegal.

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nonentity sh.itjust.works nonentity@sh.itjust.works
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#30 · Quote Reply

i thought that guy had sworn off suits for good

It’s an older clip, sir, but it checks out.

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Hideakikarate sh.itjust.works Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works
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#31 · Quote Reply

And somehow voyeurism is still illegal.

It's illegal when the poors do it. The rich can't cash in on that as easily.

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0_o7 lemmy.dbzer0.com 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated.

There's a reason they own all the major operating systems, messaging apps, social media platforms, cloud infrastructure and spy agencies.

There's always going to be some deliberate loopholes and exploits in or between the supply-chain to get to you when you're inside their ecosystem.

But some companies promise you're "secure" and "private" if you use one of their expensive, shiny offerings. They swear it on their marketing, ads and PR releases.

It's that comfy feels of paying more for a false sense of privacy and security that matters.

tldr; Use Linux and open source.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

How in my bathroom? Like in the bidet?

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joelfromaus aussie.zone joelfromaus@aussie.zone
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#34 · Quote Reply

So what I’m hearing is that theft doesn’t exist if no one is caught. Right? Supermarket chains etc. complaining of theft from any source other than recovered goods from said theft should be null and void.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

You can't be targeted if you don't know you're targeted.

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PrincessCory lemmy.wtf PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf
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#36 · Quote Reply

Tell me, if i spy on you ewery day after work when you are unlocking your bicycle to go home, and each day i see one more number, so at the end of the week i know whole passcode for unlocking your bibycle.

Did i not violate your privacy and security just because you dont know that i was spying on you??

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bleustenns lemmy.ml bleustenns@lemmy.ml
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#37 · Quote Reply

Did you really get raped, or did the roofie I put in your drink do its job?

Giggity

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KeenFlame feddit.nu KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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Tell me, if i spy on you ewery day after work when you are unlocking your bicycle to go home, and each day i see one more number, so at the end of the week i know whole passcode for unlocking your bibycle. Did i not violate your privacy and security just because you dont know that i was spying on you??

Who do you think is going to answer

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KeenFlame feddit.nu KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated. There's a reason they own all the major operating systems, messaging apps, social media platforms, cloud infrastructure and spy agencies. There's always going to be some deliberate loopholes and exploits in or between the supply-chain to get to you when you're inside their ecosystem. But some companies pro...

It's much easier to just attack the statement with NO, that is in fact not how the human right to privacy works. It is just misconduct, it is just extreme ignorance, a lack of knowledge about the things that your country put the person in charge of.

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KeenFlame feddit.nu KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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“Congressman, here is a supercut of every time you’ve taken a shit in the last five years. I’ve been posting updates on an invite-only website. Every member of your staff is in there, and they LOVE seeing each pained expression you make. But you didn’t know, so I didn’t violate your privacy.”

But you told him you sick fuck! How could you just violate him so by telling him??

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KeenFlame feddit.nu KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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#41 · Quote Reply

Frontal lobe bait

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Jagarico lemmy.world Jagarico@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

Who do you think is going to answer

Me. And the answers is: maybe

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PrincessCory lemmy.wtf PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf
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#43 · Quote Reply

Who do you think is going to answer

Let me be more direct. Here is the situacion.
Big companies are spying on people and use that informacions directly against you.

People dont know that this is happenening so they cant be mad about it.
If you explain to someone what is going on anyone will be mad and say no am not allowing this any more.
But the thing is, even when one realises what is going on they dont see any way how to stop that.
Thats why many people say that is shit but we cant stop it no matter what we do, so lets pretend it doesnt exist.
Only knowledge is opsticle between our freedom and us. Nothing else..
Ofcourse we can stop spying on us, but for that you first need to understand how spying works.

Noone is braking ito your system and stealing informacion about you.
No the sustem you are using is collecting that info and sending it wilingly!
Am talking about Windows here, Mac os and on boile devoces Android and Ios.
Linux on pc doesnt do that, graphine os on mobile is not doing that, but people dont know it.

People need to realise what open source software is. Because eweryone are using software so much these days, so they need to know some thing about the stuff that they are using..

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KeenFlame feddit.nu KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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Let me be more direct. Here is the situacion. Big companies are spying on people and use that informacions directly against you. People dont know that this is happenening so they cant be mad about it. If you explain to someone what is going on anyone will be mad and say no am not allowing this any more. But the thing is, even when one realises what is going on they dont see any way how to stop ...

People do know. People would not say it is shit if they didn't know about it. It isn't just "nerds" that are aware, my mom's friend spontaneously brought up she didn't want to install what's app because "it's meta"..(admittedly, she also said "I have enough meta" which is a bit tech-illiterate). my uncle rants about it (admittedly ..on Facebook). These are pensioners with nothing to hide. It really is legislation and not awareness that is clogging and this is not strange following auth right waves. But nobody thinks or agrees with the title (which is why it's good clickbait ofc). Even the policy makers in an auth right carousel don't believe it, they just perform as they should to climb the ladder.

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PrincessCory lemmy.wtf PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf
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People do know. People would not say it is shit if they didn't know about it. It isn't just "nerds" that are aware, my mom's friend spontaneously brought up she didn't want to install what's app because "it's meta"..(admittedly, she also said "I have enough meta" which is a bit tech-illiterate). my uncle rants about it (admittedly ..on Facebook). These are pensioners with nothing to hide. It re...

Great that your old ones have realised it but unfortinatly those are rare individuals.
I remember when they started prompting people to acept cookies, people started avoiding that exceptence even thoy its taking third of the screen on mobile devices. So that clearly shows that when they tell you this is for spying on you, acsept it. People are refusing to do that even when it its painful to use website like that.
Means it does matter to people, and they are willing to sacrifice something to achive privacy, but before noone told them that there is tracking and asked them to allow or not allow that.

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