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thewal
lemmy.dbzer0.com
thewal@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-08-16 |
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Walters, Fern
bookwyr.me
waltersf@bookwyr.meJoined: 2026-08-23 |
nlim, |
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Scrubbles
poptalk.scrubbles.tech
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techJoined: 2023-06-02 |
Anything that hides you from their eyes will eventually become banned and illegal |
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thewal
lemmy.dbzer0.com
thewal@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-08-16 |
Statement from Autistici/Inventati
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assaultpotato
sh.itjust.works
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-20 |
https://autistici.org/who/manifesto Seems pretty great to me. MSFT and friends must be unhappy Europe is slowly moving off US software. |
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motionofethre
piefed.social
motionofethre@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-01 |
I have no context here. Is this true though?
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TheMightyCat
ani.social
TheMightyCat@ani.social Joined: 2025-06-30 |
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assaultpotato
sh.itjust.works
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-20 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
I'd argue it doesn't matter. If they offer e2ee email, they can't be aware of the content of any messages exchanged. Unless they were informed one of their email accounts belonged to someone convicted of committing an actual act of domestic terror, they would be completely in the dark about who's using their email services. Given its this US state department issuing the statement, I wouldn't believe any accusation leveled at all without proof. I'd need to see evidence that A/I knowingly provided services to a convicted domestic terrorist for me to believe this is anything other than trying to stamp out E2EE. |
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Freeposity
lemmy.world
Freeposity@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-04-27 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
I don't know, but the people making this charge routinely deflect any criticism about the manufacture and sale of guns in the USA by stating that guns are just tools and it's individuals who commit crimes, not the tools they use or create. Hypocrisy in the Republican party is not a bug, it's a feature. |
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America
sh.itjust.works
Gullible@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-09 |
Statement from Autistici/Inventati [ENGLISH VERSION] Today we were made aware that the US Government has targeted a small, volunteer-run, technology collective from Italy with disproportionate sanctions as anyone can read in the Treasury Department Statement, the State Department Statement and the related Executive Order. We deny all allegations included in the statements, while we strongly aff...
"This is bizarre. What could possibly have set him off about Italian programmers?"
"I forgort that privacy is terrorism. Sometimes I like to pretend we aren't in clown world." |
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assaultpotato
sh.itjust.works
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-20 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
Anyways in the US Section 230 of whatever law prevents companies and organizations from being liable for content users post to their websites. How is this any different than FB hosting the breeding grounds for Proud Boys et al, other than them not being a US company and them being leftist-aligned? |
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motionofethre
piefed.social
motionofethre@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-01 |
I'd argue it doesn't matter. If they offer e2ee email, they can't be aware of the content of any messages exchanged. Unless they were informed one of their email accounts belonged to someone convicted of committing an actual act of domestic terror, they would be completely in the dark about who's using their email services. Given its this US state department issuing the statement, I wouldn't be...
If it was e2e anonymous services, I would agree completely, however their policy indicates it's different. They apparently selectively choose who and what to host. It's not even clear it's encrypted. I'm not arguing that they are guilty or bad, but rather that this is different from a bad actor using Proton over For.
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assaultpotato
sh.itjust.works
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-20 |
If it was e2e anonymous services, I would agree completely, however their policy indicates it's different. They apparently selectively choose who and what to host. It's not even clear it's encrypted. I'm not arguing that they are guilty or bad, but rather that this is different from a bad actor using Proton over For. A/I merely selects and filters the individuals to whom the Services are delive...
So they have a TOS like Facebook or any other large platform, and reserve the right to refuse service? Unless they're knowingly doing business with a known convicted terrorist, I fail to see how this makes them a terrorist support platform. |
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assaultpotato
sh.itjust.works
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-20 |
If it was e2e anonymous services, I would agree completely, however their policy indicates it's different. They apparently selectively choose who and what to host. It's not even clear it's encrypted. I'm not arguing that they are guilty or bad, but rather that this is different from a bad actor using Proton over For. A/I merely selects and filters the individuals to whom the Services are delive...
I'm not downvoting you btw, I know you're engaging in good faith. Idk who is. |
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Sonnenblume
discuss.tchncs.de
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-04-21 |
This is your chance to fund a "terrorist" group. |
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motionofethre
piefed.social
motionofethre@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-01 |
So they have a TOS like Facebook or any other large platform, and reserve the right to refuse service? Unless they're knowingly doing business with a known convicted terrorist, I fail to see how this makes them a terrorist support platform.
Yeah. I'm not suggesting TOS indicates guilt, but just the "I can't control my users" argument is void. |
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assaultpotato
sh.itjust.works
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-20 |
Yeah. I'm not suggesting TOS indicates guilt, but just the "I can't control my users" argument is void.
May I ask why FB, Twitter, etc. get protection from liability from 3rd party content under Section 230 of the Communications Act but these folks don't? They both have a TOS and reserve the right to refuse service. |
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switcheroo
lemmy.world
switcheroo@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-01 |
Take it as a badge of honor for the fascist losers in the US to name you a terrorist org. |
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shininghero
pawb.social
shininghero@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-05-23 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
This is the equivalent of blaming Dewalt for manufacturing angle grinders, simply because a bike thief bought and used one to steal yours. |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
Couldnt infiltrate them, coudlnt coop them so they call them terrorists |
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Confused_Emus
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2024-07-19 |
I host stuff like this on my NAS. Am I a terrorist?! |
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lambalicious
lemmy.sdf.org
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-07-26 |
If there ever was going to be good advertising for A/I's services, it's this one. Good job Don Demente, as per usual! (Speaking more seriously, how good are their offerings?) |
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lambalicious
lemmy.sdf.org
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-07-26 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
I speak to a friend about antifascism as we take the subway to the job. That absolutely makes the subway a terrorist organization!!!!!! Thank your for your attention to this matter. SDF User Not‑yet‑President lambalicious (verified™). |
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lambalicious
lemmy.sdf.org
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-07-26 |
Yeah. I'm not suggesting TOS indicates guilt, but just the "I can't control my users" argument is void.
They can't control their users once provisioning them. Once again, this is not different than any local restaurant. |
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tar
lemmy.zip
tar@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-02-27 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
kyle has been trying to shut down noblogs for about a year |
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skarn
discuss.tchncs.de
skarn@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-24 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
These sabotages had been so inconsequential that I had not even hear about them. On the other hand... https://www.dw.com/en/germany-left-wing-group-says-it-is-behind-railway-sabotage/a-77916758 This might be controversial, but I find that protesting the environmental damage of western industrialization by attacking public transport... Is a very special type is stupid. |
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tar
lemmy.zip
tar@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-02-27 |
If there ever was going to be good advertising for A/I's services, it's this one. Good job Don Demente, as per usual! (Speaking more seriously, how good are their offerings?)
it's very comparable to rise up, in that you gotta bring your own savvy about email encryption etc. they do vett though |
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piccolo
sh.itjust.works
piccolo@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-09-15 |
A lot of talk for the same group that hides the Epstein Files. |
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KurtVonnegut
mander.xyz
KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz Joined: 2024-08-28 |
I have no context here. Is this true though? https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/ The anarchist cells responsible for sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands in 2026, relied on A/I Collective tools and services to claim responsibility for the attacks, pu...
There have been no rail system sabotages in 2026 in the Netherlands. |
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Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
piefed.zip
Sxan@piefed.zipJoined: 2025-06-18 |
including encrypted chats and email, web hosting, secure video conferencing and streaming, anonymity shields, and a suite of other technological tools… I host stuff like this on my NAS. Am I a terrorist?!
You are now |
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nightlily
leminal.space
nightlily@leminal.space Joined: 2024-08-08 |
These sabotages had been so inconsequential that I had not even hear about them. On the other hand... https://www.dw.com/en/germany-left-wing-group-says-it-is-behind-railway-sabotage/a-77916758 This might be controversial, but I find that protesting the environmental damage of western industrialization by attacking public transport... Is a very special type is stupid.
That was the most blatant false flag attempt I’ve ever seen. I can’t believe anyone takes this supposed group, that speaks worse German than I do, as anything other than a poorly disguised Russian proxy attack. Of course it plays in Ami interests as well. |
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doben
lemmy.ml
doben@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-21 |
https://autistici.org/who/manifesto Seems pretty great to me. MSFT and friends must be unhappy Europe is slowly moving off US software.
That's not "Europe slowly moving off US software". Projects like these exist to protect against European state repression, as they exist to protect against any state repression, period. I'd also bet, that their thinking wasn't "we need a European alternative, so the USA can't spy on us". So yes, it's great, there are other projects similar to this one in other countries, as well, but your take doesn't make much sense. |
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doben
lemmy.ml
doben@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-21 |
May I ask why FB, Twitter, etc. get protection from liability from 3rd party content under Section 230 of the Communications Act but these folks don't? They both have a TOS and reserve the right to refuse service.
Capitalist business vs. anti-capitalist activism. What's happening is repression by a capitalist state against antifascist organisation, nobody cares about laws. |
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poolcritter
pawb.social
poolcritter@pawb.social Joined: 2026-04-01 |
guess I'm pro-A/I now |
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atmothin
sh.itjust.works
atmothin@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-08-27 |
this coming from the goverment who did this shortly after taking over: US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit ‘far more’ violence they sure love projection theres a literal wikipedia list also this is ridiculous |
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atmothin
sh.itjust.works
atmothin@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-08-27 |
May I ask why FB, Twitter, etc. get protection from liability from 3rd party content under Section 230 of the Communications Act but these folks don't? They both have a TOS and reserve the right to refuse service.
Epstein ring communicated a lot through Gmail for years and they still never went after those involved nor Google @motionofethre@piefed.social how would you explain Google still not being sanctioned based on your logic? |
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AceFuzzLord
lemmy.zip
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-19 |
Can confirm that my ISP has blocked their website, Autistici's that is. |
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Echolynx
lemmy.zip
Echolynx@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-11-19 |
This is your chance to fund a "terrorist" group.
Bizarre, the link will just not load for me. Tried VPN, different DNS, no dice. |
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Sonnenblume
discuss.tchncs.de
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-04-21 |
Bizarre, the link will just not load for me. Tried VPN, different DNS, no dice.
Looks like someone disabled their domain. |
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amelore
slrpnk.net
amelore@slrpnk.net Joined: 2023-08-12 |
https://autistici.org/who/manifesto Seems pretty great to me. MSFT and friends must be unhappy Europe is slowly moving off US software.
Those are two separate things. European companies and governments move from Teams/OneDrive to Nextcloud, and stuff like that. But autistici/inventati is intended for activists, not the general public, and as they mention not for companies either. |
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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
including encrypted chats and email, web hosting, secure video conferencing and streaming, anonymity shields, and a suite of other technological tools… I host stuff like this on my NAS. Am I a terrorist?!
Soon, yes. They will make some law, that will force you to use either big tech's stuff or not use tech at all for "safety" reasons, or you get sent to Bobby's wellness camps for forced labor for big tech. |
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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
There have been no rail system sabotages in 2026 in the Netherlands.
So it's made up by Grok (no em dashes). |
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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
Anyways in the US Section 230 of whatever law prevents companies and organizations from being liable for content users post to their websites. How is this any different than FB hosting the breeding grounds for Proud Boys et al, other than them not being a US company and them being leftist-aligned?
US tech firms want to undo Section 230, because they have the capacity to prefilter stuff (thanks to AI moderation) and to pay fines, but smaller providers such as the Fediverse don't. |
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Confused_Emus
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2024-07-19 |
Soon, yes. They will make some law, that will force you to use either big tech's stuff or not use tech at all for "safety" reasons, or you get sent to Bobby's wellness camps for forced labor for big tech.
My personal conspiracy theory is that all the price hikes in PC components like RAM and GPUs are really just an effort to take computing power out of the hands of the people. The future we’re being steered towards is rental PCs and/or thin-client-like PCs with subscriptions to stuff like GeForce Now. |
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ayyy
sh.itjust.works
ayyy@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-06-20 |
https://autistici.org/who/manifesto Seems pretty great to me. MSFT and friends must be unhappy Europe is slowly moving off US software.
I can’t reach that server from the USA. The Great American Firewall has begun. I hate this shitty country. |
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assaultpotato
sh.itjust.works
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-20 |
I can’t reach that server from the USA. The Great American Firewall has begun. I hate this shitty country.
Whois still has the DNS record but it doesn't resolve for me either at this point. I can't resolve it using dns.leonet.it either so presumably the sanctions have taken effect and their internet service has been cut off. |
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mojo_raisin
lemmy.world
mojo_raisin@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-22 |
If there ever was going to be good advertising for A/I's services, it's this one. Good job Don Demente, as per usual! (Speaking more seriously, how good are their offerings?)
Ya this seems kinda streissandish |
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lambisio
feddit.cl
lambisio@feddit.cl Joined: 2026-04-09 |
guess I'm pro-A/I now
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Echolynx
lemmy.zip
Echolynx@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-11-19 |
Looks like someone disabled their domain. https://www.inventati.org/ still works for now.
That worked, thanks. |
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Puddinghelmet
lemmy.world
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-11 |
Bookmark Autistici/Inventati |
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