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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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justcallmelarry lemmy.dbzer0.com justcallmelarry@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-15
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Superhuman AI sounds like an oxymoron

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BJW lemmus.org Epp@lemmus.org
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Superhuman AI sounds like an oxymoron

It's accurate, though.

superhuman: being above the human

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justcallmelarry lemmy.dbzer0.com justcallmelarry@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-15
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It's accurate, though. superhuman: being above the human

My superhuman car is faster than me

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BJW lemmus.org Epp@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-02-12
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My superhuman car is faster than me

You aren't capable of doing what your car does, though.

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testman lemmy.ml testman@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-10-28
#6 · Quote Reply

You aren't capable of doing what your car does, though.

moving from one place to another? Yes, I am capable of that.
Transporting some object while moving? I am also capable of that.
Yet my car can move faster than me and carry more than me. Therefore it has superhuman transportation capability.

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Sanguine lemmy.dbzer0.com Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-10
#7 · Quote Reply

One of a few acceptable uses for AI.

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muffedtrims lemmy.world muffedtrims@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

moving from one place to another? Yes, I am capable of that. Transporting some object while moving? I am also capable of that. Yet my car can move faster than me and carry more than me. Therefore it has superhuman transportation capability.

Is your car also superhorse?

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chicken lemmy.dbzer0.com chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-30
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But it cannot detect heart disease. That requires an echocardiogram, a type of ultrasound scan, which patients often have to wait months for.

Now a team have developed an AI tool that can spot signs of heart failure and heart valve disease – two of the most common forms of heart disease – from ECG results in “the blink of an eye”.

The tech cannot be used on its own to definitively diagnose or rule out heart failure or heart valve disease, but it gives a very strong indication someone may have them.

Someone judged as highly likely to have either could be sent rapidly for an echocardiogram, rather than wait months on the standard waiting lists. That could mean a quicker diagnosis which would enable them to start treatment earlier.

Maybe it's just pessimistic of me but I could also see this being used to make it harder to actually get the definitive test if the AI doesn't notice your heart problems on the first pass, like the insurance won't approve it or something like that

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chunes lemmy.world chunes@lemmy.world
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#10 · Quote Reply

But it cannot detect heart disease. That requires an echocardiogram, a type of ultrasound scan, which patients often have to wait months for. Now a team have developed an AI tool that can spot signs of heart failure and heart valve disease – two of the most common forms of heart disease – from ECG results in “the blink of an eye”. The tech cannot be used on its own to definitively diagnose or r...

They already do that, though.

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Dave. aussie.zone dgriffith@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-09-27
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But it cannot detect heart disease. That requires an echocardiogram, a type of ultrasound scan, which patients often have to wait months for. Now a team have developed an AI tool that can spot signs of heart failure and heart valve disease – two of the most common forms of heart disease – from ECG results in “the blink of an eye”. The tech cannot be used on its own to definitively diagnose or r...

like the insurance won't approve it or something like that

That's the part that's broken, not the concerns that you might get false negatives.

In any case, I would hope that the system would return "results inconclusive" rather than a hard no, prompting you to be put in the queue for normal diagnostics.

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ragas lemmy.ml ragas@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-03-23
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It's accurate, though. superhuman: being above the human

If you want to interpret it like that, every useful invention made by humans is superhuman.

Look at that superhuman wrench!

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saimen feddit.org saimen@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-03-09
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

Most experienced humans don't need longer than that as well.

My point is it's not relevant how fast it is but how accurate.

Edit: I thought it's about heart attacks

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craftrabbit lemmy.zip craftrabbit@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-04
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If you want to interpret it like that, every useful invention made by humans is superhuman. Look at that superhuman wrench!

I think it's fair. An excavator gives us superhuman strength, a train gives us superhuman speed and this system gives us a superhuman ability to spot heart disease. And a wrench gives us superhuman bolt-tightening abilities lol.

Though calling it a "superhuman AI" implies it being better than humans in general, which is definitely not the case (just like with your wrench), so the headline is definitely not accurate and intuitive either.

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thingsiplay lemmy.ml thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-09
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But it cannot detect heart disease. That requires an echocardiogram, a type of ultrasound scan, which patients often have to wait months for. Now a team have developed an AI tool that can spot signs of heart failure and heart valve disease – two of the most common forms of heart disease – from ECG results in “the blink of an eye”. The tech cannot be used on its own to definitively diagnose or r...

Ai tool isn't a proof, so this cannot be used in definitive tests. The absence of something is not proof it isn't there, you just didn't found it. On the other side, it cannot proof you have an issue, it can just find signs of, so a real doctor have to look into it for proof. I do not think this can be used for insurance, even if the tool was quiet accurate in finding signs.

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thingsiplay lemmy.ml thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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Superhuman AI sounds like an oxymoron

Sounds like Marvel to me.

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monkeyslikebananas2 lemmy.world monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
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Ai tool isn't a proof, so this cannot be used in definitive tests. The absence of something is not proof it isn't there, you just didn't found it. On the other side, it cannot proof you have an issue, it can just find signs of, so a real doctor have to look into it for proof. I do not think this can be used for insurance, even if the tool was quiet accurate in finding signs.

Yeah, like insurance companies give a shit. They will deny millions of people access with this result. They will use the savings to then pay lawyers to smother anyone who tries to fight it.

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thingsiplay lemmy.ml thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-09
#18 · Quote Reply

Yeah, like insurance companies give a shit. They will deny millions of people access with this result. They will use the savings to then pay lawyers to smother anyone who tries to fight it.

I don't think this is legal to do so, at least here in Europe/Germany.

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manuallybreathing lemmy.ml manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
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BREAKING NEWS: Computer used to analyse data

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-01-18
#20 · Quote Reply

BREAKING NEWS: Computer used to analyse data

people have infinite capacity to trivialize any advancement I guess

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