Like in the Bible? Because that's not real

He thinks it'll let him hang out with Erika without Usha getting in the way.

Vance: I'm trying to focus on doing as much of God's work as possible.

Name one thing that he has done that the bible god wants done

You know that and I know that but a truly shocking number of ostensibly responsible adults ... don't

“I think there are things about the world that make feel like not shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us,” Vance added.

Oh, you're so close, J D

Let's not pretend he believes anything he says.

I think bringing about the end times might actually be the goal of this administration

I mean, supposedly, bringing about the end of the world is what American Christian god wants.

Upvoted but you really should take them at face value on the revelations talk. They're not fucking joking.

edit: JD might be lying (IMO he's not) but his audience believe it 100% and they're being stoked towards violence at the institutional level https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)

When I say take them at face value, it's cuz we're talking about people who literally believe God will call them to genocide you. IYKYK

Bringing a potential Anti-Christ, for one

“Sure, I’d be okay with the world ending because of my actions, since I believe in a fictional character written by bored people 2000 years ago.”

This guy’s skull is an empty lot.

Not just this administration...

https://www.britannica.com/topic/new-religious-movement

Netflix made a doc called "The Family" about that group. They started in 1935 and are Christian extremists who want the apocalypse to happen while they're alive so they can be raptured instead of dying.

Most people only know them from "the national prayer breakfast" something most of our politicians (regardless of party) attend and is treated like an official event and not pancakes with a death cult for our nations leaders.

He's not talking about what he believes, he's a nihilist. He's saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do. Rolling coal, probably do some nuclear sabre rattling, do some ethnic cleansing sort of thing, you know.

Closer than most physically, but so far from realization.

Fucking couches is in the bible surely?

Exactly. Vance says whatever he thinks will make him more popular. Always has, always will.

I am convinced that extreme evangelical shitheads like him want to bring about the end times because getting raptured is their shot at getting into heaven without actually having to die first. Jesus comes and takes you to heaven without all that nasty dying business.

Maybe he's forced Jezebel into bed and killed the kids.

You commented 3 minutes after someone who just talked about a group (them) attempting exactly that.

They're doing a damn fine job. At the end times things. Being raptured is as likely as me being crowned King of England.

"None of you are going to heaven."

-God or Bo Burnham or something, idk

Idk what’s up with that link, but, it’s the headline, a byline, and a picture of Vance with no links to elsewhere, and a full article on a Hatian kid from Springfield suiciding by traffic after ICE fit them all with ankle monitors. Not that the two stories aren’t linked by topic, but I’m not seeing this Vance interview.

SOLVED: the reader function hides the whole article and shows you one 3 down from the Vance article instead. That is fail.

He's not talking about what he believes, he's a nihilist

Respectfully disagree based on my personal experience being raised in a church that was very focused on revelations. IMO you'd have to grow up believing it yourself to understand.

He's saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do.

Yea their logic is circular but I promise you they fucking believe this shit.

Barring specific evidence to the contrary, both Occam & Halon's razers apply here. It is both a simpler explanation that he believes the scriptures in his religion AND there is no malice required for stupidity to explain what he's saying.

I'm not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don't think he's smart enough to do that and he's probably 100% serious.

This revelations talk is conditioning them towards violence.

https://streamable.com/2yj2tj

This is Peter Thiel's ideology, almost verbatim.

US Evangelism is a doomsday cult.

I can respectfully disagree on that, I doubt we disagree on how dangerous he is.

Like I'm not moving the goalposts here, but JD believing what he's saying is irrelevant. He's using coded language that is well understood in Christian circles. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)

My real point, as someone raised in those circles, is that you should really fucking believe them when they tell you who they are.

By the lore, you have to be a good person to go there. Jesus reads like a radical hippy. I don’t think Vance qualifies.

They’re both on the Antichrist’s side

Absolutely. I think his personal beliefs are not the dangerous part here. Its the beliefs of his cristo-fascist followers he's tapping into that worry me.

you weren’t brought up by Peter Thiel, and probably didn’t go to Yale Law (no offense intended, most of us didn’t)

Neither were the thousands to millions of christo-fascists currently being stoked toward violence. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj

JD believing what he's saying is irrelevant when his audience believes it. He uses coded language that has charged meanings in Christian circles.

EoD smart americans should not assume dumb americans don't believe that crap. Cuz they do.

Christians will be happy with a close approximation just as long as they can make sure it's everyone else that's fucked.

They don't know what the end times actually is/entails.

If you ask them for a proper explanation they can not answer beyond the fairy tale that they are taught.
But a specific thing grounded in reality they can not point to, and if they're called evil for wanting harm on millions of people you can see them think "how do I declare the victims to be evil?".

I'm convinced there currently are some in the US government who are so delusional that they think they in-person are one of the four horsemen personified....

So if you kill yourself to go to heaven, that is a sin so you go to hell. On the other hand, if you do things to bring on the end times that's okay. So is he saying in the first scenario you can't fool god, but in the second you can. Time for a new god ... or better yet, none at all.

100%, without question.

this is how I know he's not the next pick for them. By now they would have forced him to end the marriage to Usha and shacked him up with Erika. they haven't pulled that trigger yet, so he's not next in line.

Of course, but that wasn’t the point.

The point in question was that JD Vance very likely does not believe this bullshit, irrespective of what his followers believe or do

Why? Do you think fascists ever hold themselves or their leaders to their own standards?

What are you gonna tell me next? That Hitler was blonde and blue eyed? That Trump is a macho religious man?

Bringing about the end times is ALSO not allowed: "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son,[a] but the Father only..."

These people are dangerous weirdos who don't even read their own fucking book.

Even worse, they don't even have a decent definition of "God". If they say something like that they worship "the God of Abraham" or "Yahweh" or "Jehovah", that's about as good as they can do to actually describe "God", just giving it a name.

If you ignore names and just ask them to describe "God" by its attributes, and get really into details, you'll find that no two Christians believe in the same god, and in fact, somehow, the "God" they describe will closely reflect their own beliefs more than anything else.

How about if old Couch Fucker brings about his own personal end times?

that wasn’t the point.

But what is your point? You've contributed nothing to this conversation. I find your comments vapid and annoying.

Vote Republican to end America!!!

Dems are too much pussies to kill you all.

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And JD Vance is a Catholic, but is obviously pandering to their death cult base

And both have been inside each other

He's only VP because Thiel interceded for him...

Christianity turned to the anti-Christ in the 2nd century, with the doctrine that everything in the bible must be true, but what is chronologically first is more true than all corrections that were provided afterwards including by Jews in 1st temple, but more aggressively by Jesus. So Moses genocidal rights of the chosen people is the god of Christianity/Rome/Luther. Not anything Jesus ever said.

Well it's not gonna happen yet. They almost bred the perfect red heifer in Texas, but when they sacrificed it they found a couple of black hairs.

So it's gonna be a while longer before the prophecy can be fulfilled.