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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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The_Hideous_Orgalorg sh.itjust.works The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works
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War profits for healthcare? How about stop allowing profit from healthcare, run them as services for the public good, and we already pay more than enough taxes to treat everyone.

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

War profits for healthcare? How about stop allowing profit from healthcare, run them as services for the public good, and we already pay more than enough taxes to treat everyone.

Where does the euro/US wealth come from?

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Geobloke aussie.zone Geobloke@aussie.zone
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Boomer slop

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Boomer slop

you disagree?

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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War profits for healthcare? How about stop allowing profit from healthcare, run them as services for the public good, and we already pay more than enough taxes to treat everyone.

The problem isn't purely with what to do with a country's wealth, but also where it comes from. Is it produced domestically, or does it come from exploiting others? Imperialist countries gain the bulk of their wealth from expropriating it from the global south. This is why welfare alone isn't a viable solution, the question of socialism must also be addressed, ending imperialism and moving humanity forwards.

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ghost_laptop Moderator gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml
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Boomer slop

we accept memes from all generations here bro

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ChicoSuave lemmy.world ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

you disagree?

Yes

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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Yes

Why?

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agent_nycto lemmy.world agent_nycto@lemmy.world
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The problem isn't purely with what to do with a country's wealth, but also where it comes from. Is it produced domestically, or does it come from exploiting others? Imperialist countries gain the bulk of their wealth from expropriating it from the global south. This is why welfare alone isn't a viable solution, the question of socialism must also be addressed, ending imperialism and moving huma...
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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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I recommend reading through the article Five Characteristics of Neoimperialism.

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eldavi lemmy.ml eldavi@lemmy.ml
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we accept memes from all generations here bro

-- but only if it's based. :p

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agent_nycto lemmy.world agent_nycto@lemmy.world
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I recommend reading through the article Five Characteristics of Neoimperialism.
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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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The article provides numbers, examples, and cites its sources. It was written in 2021 as well, so this is relatively modern economic data. Please read the article, if I wanted you to understand how imperialism functions I would have recommended reading Lenin himself, rather than an article using Lenin's understanding of imperialism as a base and elaborating on it with hard numbers.

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overkrill lemmy.dbzer0.com overkrill@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-16
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2026: haha what profits the US military has literally spent ALL the money and blown through all of their weapons in order to cede control of the strait of hormuz, get their missile radars blown to shit by shahed drones, and abandon their military presence in southwest asia.
the next move will be dismantling our meager health care and education systems to pay for a trade war with canada and a giant golden bitcoin bidet. chefs kiss

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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
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Check out the studies on "unequal exchange". The most recent publication is https://www.iskrabooks.org/books/p/ue-past-present-future by Torkil Lauesen.

It is an analysis that accounts for the cost of European social democracy being borne by the over exploited world

@Cowbee

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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Check out the studies on "unequal exchange". The most recent publication is https://www.iskrabooks.org/books/p/ue-past-present-future by Torkil Lauesen. It is an analysis that accounts for the cost of European social democracy being borne by the over exploited world @Cowbee

Already on my list to read! Would have considered recommending it if I had read it myself. Thanks!

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ghost_laptop Moderator gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml
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#18 · Quote Reply

Yes

you're not suave chico

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LeoDalPozzo lemmy.ml LeoDalPozzo@lemmy.ml
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Dehumanization of the adversaries is not good. We have to be better than that.

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folaht lemmy.ml folaht@lemmy.ml
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#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not 100% sure, but the left one looks for more like a progressive, not a liberal.
And I don't know about the right one, but conservatives aren't MAGA either.

The US has four types of monsters not two.

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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
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#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not 100% sure, but the left one looks for more like a progressive, not a liberal. And I don't know about the right one, but conservatives aren't MAGA either. The US has four types of monsters not two.

i think you are confusing what progressives and conservatives are.

democrats are not leftists. conservatives are fascists.

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papalonian lemmy.world papalonian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-29
#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

Boomer slop

What about this is boomer slop? It's a little "enlightened centrist" (if you conflate liberals with the left, which let's not get started), sure, but most boomers are depicted on the right panel, and at least 2 of the 3 background images are old memes so not slop

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ohshit604 lemmy.halstead.host ohshit604@lemmy.halstead.host
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#23 · Quote Reply

Why?

Liberals and conservatives don’t like it when you call them out on their bullshit.

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dreamy (she/her) lemmy.blahaj.zone dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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What about this is boomer slop? It's a little "enlightened centrist" (if you conflate liberals with the left, which let's not get started), sure, but most boomers are depicted on the right panel, and at least 2 of the 3 background images are old memes so not slop
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SourDragon lemmy.world SourDragon@lemmy.world
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War profits for healthcare? How about stop allowing profit from healthcare, run them as services for the public good, and we already pay more than enough taxes to treat everyone.

You dare suggest something that is actually good for everyone? You monster!

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papalonian lemmy.world papalonian@lemmy.world
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Agree to disagree I suppose. When I think of "boomer Facebook group" I don't think of them casually criticizing the police state or militaristic profiteering, and when I think of "slop" I think of things that are lazily generated by AI.

I don't see how you can say it isn't at least trying to be a centrist meme when "liberals think x, conservatives think y, they're both wrong and I'm a genius because I think z" is the oldest centrist meme template in the book

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clifmo programming.dev clifmo@programming.dev
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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
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part of the reason why leftism is cool is that we are against the system, yeah.

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blartcap_ lemmy.dbzer0.com blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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part of the reason why leftism is cool is that we are against the system, yeah.

That's not how it goes for Tyler Durden

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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
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#30 · Quote Reply

That's not how it goes for Tyler Durden

tyler durden was "against the system", in a different way.

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callouscomic lemmy.zip callouscomic@lemmy.zip
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Government spending is not profit or loss.

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MrSelfDestruct lemmy.dbzer0.com RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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A figment of a mentally illed corporate normie.

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You dare suggest something that is actually good for everyone? You monster!

"everyone"

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titanicx lemmy.zip titanicx@lemmy.zip
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clifmo programming.dev clifmo@programming.dev
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part of the reason why leftism is cool is that we are against the system, yeah.
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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
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there are many parts to it!

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Tomorrow_Farewell lemmy.ml Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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You hear a lot of NATO liberals saying that the plunder from Africa, Asia, and elsewhere should go to welfare. This even happens on these sites.

You have to be living under a rock to not hear liberals day exactly that.

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bigkahuna1986 lemmy.ml bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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The liberals be invents in his head.

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titanicx lemmy.zip titanicx@lemmy.zip
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You hear a lot of NATO liberals saying that the plunder from Africa, Asia, and elsewhere should go to welfare. This even happens on these sites. You have to be living under a rock to not hear liberals day exactly that.

Give me a concrete example. I have never seen this, heard this, or known this.

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Tomorrow_Farewell lemmy.ml Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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Give me a concrete example. I have never seen this, heard this, or known this.

Unable to dedicate enough time to dissect particular examples, but, for example, places like lemmy.world are full of liberals who will tell you that NATO should keep going and maintain colonial subjugation of the Global South, but to provide its own people with better welfare.

I will be able to provide more examples later if that's not enough.

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titanicx lemmy.zip titanicx@lemmy.zip
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Unable to dedicate enough time to dissect particular examples, but, for example, places like lemmy.world are full of liberals who will tell you that NATO should keep going and maintain colonial subjugation of the Global South, but to provide its own people with better welfare. I will be able to provide more examples later if that's not enough.

Hearsay until I see it, I've never seen it myself.

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Tomorrow_Farewell lemmy.ml Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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#42 · Quote Reply

Hearsay until I see it, I've never seen it myself.

I envy you if you have seriously never seen liberals say that both NATO and welfare are good.

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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The wealth of the US/euro empire is rooted in the exploitation of countries that are kept underdeveloped artificially through war or threats thereof. This is something that the liberals don't want to change as the palestinian genocide for instance clearly demonstrate. Their platform is only about spreading the wealth (that has been gotten through those exploitative means) more "equitably" among the population of the empire. That's what I mean by "war profits".

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Government spending is not profit or loss.

The wealth of the US/euro empire is rooted in the exploitation of countries that are kept underdeveloped artificially through war or threats thereof. This is something that the liberals don't want to change as the palestinian genocide for instance clearly demonstrate. Their platform is only about spreading the wealth (that has been gotten through those exploitative means) more "equitably" among the population of the empire. That's what I mean by "war profits".

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Give me a concrete example. I have never seen this, heard this, or known this.

People should care more about the people in their country than one across the world. American leftists should care about other American leftists MORE than a country across the world. Surely you don’t put fucking Gaza above YOU as a person! This is the stupidest fucking argument. If you don’t care about your own neighbor (let’s say they are just like you) then you don’t give a shit about Gaza. You need to help yourself before others. Come the fuck off it.

https://hexbear.net/comment/7348350

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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She's not wrong, no reason to downvote her. The meme is actually based on a centrist facebook meme that I put a leftist twist on. It was used a lot as ragebait on reddit (not by me) and I thought it would be funny to repurpose it like this.

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CyroSignal54 lemmy.world CyroSignal@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

That's so true...

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burgermeister sh.itjust.works burgermeister@sh.itjust.works
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#48 · Quote Reply

I'm just here like

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silicon lemmy.dbzer0.com silicon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#49 · Quote Reply

The truth is it all goes in Trump and company Pockets.

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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A figment of a mentally illed corporate normie.

Actually there's something to this, you don't get us without abusing regular people for a long time

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SourDragon lemmy.world SourDragon@lemmy.world
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#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

"everyone"

Yeah. All the downvotes shows how wrong I was and I accept it

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