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somereaduser
reddthat.com
somereaduser@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-08-12 |
I've heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn't have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome. Another option I'm considering is Windscribe.One major knock against it (and the same thing for AirVPN) is that htere is no tutorial available for installing the wireguard version on openwrt. I really don't know enough about these. Windscribe has been sort of tested in court (again that was in Greece, and they don't have the same might of an authoritarian state as the US or some place), so that's a plus. I don't know, I'm so confused that it sort of makes sense to stick with Mullvad at times. |
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iByteABit
lemmy.ml
iByteABit@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-11-08 |
I've seen IVPN recommended a lot compared to Mullvad but I have no experience with it personally |
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uninvitedguest
piefed.ca
uninvitedguest@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-06-07 |
Highly recommend AirVPN. The Eddie App is perfectly fine. |
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CrocodilloBombardino
piefed.social
the_abecedarian@piefed.social Joined: 2025-04-07 |
ivpn is worth a look |
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ziaxiaa
lemmy.world
ziaxiaa@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-04 |
Why would you migrate from Mullvad? |
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birdwing
lemmy.blahaj.zone
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-08-19 |
There's Proton, but given the controversy... yeah (though I did look at what they donate to and it seems to not be right-wing companies). IVPN is perhaps your best bet. |
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itsoveranakin_
piefed.zip
itsoveranakin_@piefed.zip Joined: 2026-07-16 |
Why would you migrate from Mullvad?
The CEO donated money to a Swedish party that is for remigration/deportation. |
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moshankey
lemmy.world
moshankey@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-23 |
I’ve been using IVPN for a few months and I’m happy with it. Was on mullvad before. |
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nymnympseudonym
piefed.social
nymnympseudonym@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-25 |
OpenVPN on a VPS from Njalla paid for in Monero I'm not being silly (other than that I'm a freakin' tinfoil hat compared to most people) This is my actual setup. |
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electric_nan
lemmy.ml
electric_nan@lemmy.ml Joined: 2022-01-15 |
OpenVPN on a VPS from Njalla paid for in Monero I'm not being silly (other than that I'm a freakin' tinfoil hat compared to most people) This is my actual setup.
Depends on your reason for using a VPN. Presumably your Njalla VPS has a static IP address. I like being able to rotate servers if one is being blocked by a given service (ie YouTube). |
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P. Montegomery Hat (he)
lemmy.world
a_postmodern_hat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
OpenVPN on a VPS from Njalla paid for in Monero I'm not being silly (other than that I'm a freakin' tinfoil hat compared to most people) This is my actual setup.
Why OpenVPN and not something like wg out of interest? |
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FineCoatMummy
sh.itjust.works
FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-02-17 |
Depends on your reason for using a VPN. Presumably your Njalla VPS has a static IP address. I like being able to rotate servers if one is being blocked by a given service (ie YouTube).
Seconding electric nan's comment. There is a valid use case for that model IMO, but it also ties your identity to a different fixed IP. Maybe if you were PERFECT about opsec it wouldn't tie to your ID, but in practice nobody is going to be. That's nearly impossible in today's tracking centric world. So data brokers will learn user X has IP Y, nobody else uses that IP, so other connections from IP Y are probably user X too. There's a benefit to sharing an IP with many other ppl and rotating the IP around. There are drawbacks too ofc. |
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Buage_
piefed.social
Buage_@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-01-08 |
IVPN is very good imo, I'm using it, and I love it |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
I'm looking to switch to Windscribe. |
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eleitl
lemmy.zip
eleitl@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
Why should I migrate from a trusted vendor? |
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Dr_Vindaloo
lemmy.ml
Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-10-19 |
Why should I migrate from a trusted vendor?
Co-founder donated huge sums to extreme right party. |
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SatyrSack
quokk.au
SatyrSack@quokk.auJoined: 2025-08-25 |
Consider using Obtainium. It might be a little cumbersome to get it set up, but once you do, Obtainium will handle checking for and installing updates whenever they are released. Install Obtainium from GitHub or F-Droid. Then you can add Eddie (the AirVPN client app) by using the install button on this page: |
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eleitl
lemmy.zip
eleitl@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
Co-founder donated huge sums to extreme right party.
I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and
This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they're facing a problem they can't make go away another way. And it is actually working because of people like you, who amplify this attack. |
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traxex
lemmy.dbzer0.com
traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-12-19 |
I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and extreme right wing moniker seems a smear campaign against Örebro the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they're facing a problem they can't make go away another way. And it is...
So you are making that speculation purely on vibes without any sort of backing information? |
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Dr_Vindaloo
lemmy.ml
Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-10-19 |
I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and extreme right wing moniker seems a smear campaign against Örebro the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they're facing a problem they can't make go away another way. And it is...
It definitely is an extreme right party, and the founder's riches are a direct result of the company's success. |
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eleitl
lemmy.zip
eleitl@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
So you are making that speculation purely on vibes without any sort of backing information?
So you are attacking my character rather than correcting me? That doesn't work. Please provide your backing information. |
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eleitl
lemmy.zip
eleitl@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
It definitely is an extreme right party, and the founder's riches are a direct result of the company's success.
I am going to look into the party, and simply because I might move to rural Sweden when I retire. But that's entirely othogonal to Mullvad. |
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traxex
lemmy.dbzer0.com
traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-12-19 |
So you are attacking my character rather than correcting me? That doesn't work. Please provide your backing information.
Wait what lmao? Do you know how claiming things work? You made a claim now back it up. I don't have to prove the opposite, that's not how any of this works. |
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surewhynotlem
lemmy.world
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and extreme right wing moniker seems a smear campaign against Örebro the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they're facing a problem they can't make go away another way. And it is...
They give him money. He uses that money for bad. |
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TrollAccount69
lemmy.ml
TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-08-10 |
Air is my go to piracy vpn. Their app is garbage, use the config file generator instead. Air is my go to piracy VPN because it is a piracy vpn service. I would not use them as a shield from any sort of serious threat. I use windscribe for stuff that doesn’t matter like bypassing geoblocks. I don’t trust them, their abilities or my ability to limit my own exposure to their malice, compliance or incompetence. It’s a confusing service. People are suggesting ivpn and I have used it. It’s a downgrade from mullvad in every way but it might be safe. I can’t say because it hasn’t been tested in the same way. I use mullvad when it actually matters. It’s really hard to screw up and they have the best app of any vpn service I’ve ever used. There are a lot of people saying why they would want to move away from mullvad, why do you? What devices and operating systems do you use it on? How do you pay? |
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eremophila
lemmy.zip
eremophila@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-07-20 |
airvpn and ivpn appear to be the only ethical ones. |
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eremophila
lemmy.zip
eremophila@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-07-20 |
Why should I migrate from a trusted vendor?
The recent issue with one of Mullvad's founders/co-owners is very well known. |
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eremophila
lemmy.zip
eremophila@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-07-20 |
I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and extreme right wing moniker seems a smear campaign against Örebro the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they're facing a problem they can't make go away another way. And it is...
We know where you stand. |
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eremophila
lemmy.zip
eremophila@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-07-20 |
There's Proton, but given the controversy... yeah (though I did look at what they donate to and it seems to not be right-wing companies). IVPN is perhaps your best bet.
proton is privacy greenwashing |
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eremophila
lemmy.zip
eremophila@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-07-20 |
Highly recommend AirVPN. The Eddie App is perfectly fine.
Last I looked the eddie app didn't even have split tunneling? people on their reddit frequently recommend against using eddie too |
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nymnympseudonym
piefed.social
nymnympseudonym@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-25 |
Why OpenVPN and not something like wg out of interest?
Because I set it up like 5 ywars ago as a pandemic project and that was the top option from my searches |
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uninvitedguest
piefed.ca
uninvitedguest@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-06-07 |
Last I looked the eddie app didn't even have split tunneling? people on their reddit frequently recommend against using eddie too
Again, it's fine - not the bees knees. You can exclude local networks from the VPN. If there is another VPN/Wireguard app that does app based split tunnelling or whatever you're looking for just use that with AirVPN instead of Eddie. Maybe WGTunnel? Haven't tried it myself. |
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thermogel
lemmy.ml
thermogel@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-09-23 |
obscura? |
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eremophila
lemmy.zip
eremophila@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-07-20 |
Again, it's fine - not the bees knees. You can exclude local networks from the VPN. If there is another VPN/Wireguard app that does app based split tunnelling or whatever you're looking for just use that with AirVPN instead of Eddie. Maybe WGTunnel? Haven't tried it myself.
airvpn can fix their software if they want my money. mullvad has good software and the browser extension, which together makes a very usable system. Unfortunately they completely failed ethically. It shouldn't be too much to ask for decent software and ethics. |
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traxex
lemmy.dbzer0.com
traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-12-19 |
I am going to look into the party, and simply because I might move to rural Sweden when I retire. But that's entirely othogonal to Mullvad.
Oh, so you can join it huh? |
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CorrectAlias
piefed.blahaj.zone
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-07-22 |
I know you mentioned AirVPN only having an app on their website, but you can use it with the wireguard client (you just have to make the conf file names short enough and remove special characters to import them). This is how I personally use AirVPN on Android. |
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AnAnonymousApe
lemmy.ml
AnAnonymousApe@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-12 |
airvpn and ivpn appear to be the only ethical ones.
Agreed. These are the only real options at present. |
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ashema
sopuli.xyz
ashema@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2021-12-29 |
I switched to Xeovo, works great so far. Winscribe was a no after this: https://x.com/Windscribe/status/1991176084662964688 |
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prenatal_confusion
feddit.org
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org Joined: 2024-09-04 |
proton is privacy greenwashing
How so? i know only about the CEO saying stupid things. But the technical aide? |
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sudoer777
lemmy.ml
sudoer777@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-02-18 |
How so? i know only about the CEO saying stupid things. But the technical aide?
Repeated misleading marketing on both their social medias and websites such as the false "no-log" claim that got someone arrested |
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Juicedloose
lemmy.zip
Juicedloose@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-29 |
ivpn is worth a look
Completely agree most people have recommended proton and perhaps wind scribe. But something people tend to miss is proton, mullvad & others tend to use rented vps servers. Ivpn claims they own all of their servers hands down. If that is the case and you may need to look into this then go with them. |
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prenatal_confusion
feddit.org
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org Joined: 2024-09-04 |
Repeated misleading marketing on both their social medias and websites such as the false "no-log" claim that got someone arrested
Interesting. I'll read up in that. Also: check your permissions to prevent possible rights escalations. (And yes, I know that it relies more on the sudoers file but I am sure there is some attack surface there ...) |
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Squizzy
lemmy.world
Squizzy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I've heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn’t have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome. Consider using Obtainium. It might be a little cumbersome to get it set up, but once you do, Obtainium will handle checking for and installing updates whenever they are released. Install Obtainium from GitHub or F-Droid. Then you can...
Obtainium is annoying a lot though, its probably not a fault of theirs necessarily but there is so often failure due to locating an installable build from a repo link |
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ProdigalFrog
slrpnk.net
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-07-04 |
I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and extreme right wing moniker seems a smear campaign against Örebro the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they're facing a problem they can't make go away another way. And it is...
They are nationalist racists trying to cloak themselves with populist leftist ideas. This is the leader of that party: https://www.friatider.se/markus-allard-om-andra-generationens-invandrare-de-ska-ocksa-ut
Remember; the Nazi's did the same thing by strategically calling their party the National Socialist German Workers' Party, despite them not being socialist nor a working class party. This was chosen because Socialism was gaining popularity, and thus the Nazi's thought it would help their chances of getting votes and public support. |
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ProdigalFrog
slrpnk.net
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-07-04 |
Why would you migrate from Mullvad?
One of the owners of Mullvad donated a vast sum of money to a Swedish Nazi political party, accounting for 70% of their funding, which resulted in boosted popularity there. This is the leader of that political party: https://www.friatider.se/markus-allard-om-andra-generationens-invandrare-de-ska-ocksa-ut
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sudoer777
lemmy.ml
sudoer777@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-02-18 |
Interesting. I'll read up in that. Also: check your permissions to prevent possible rights escalations. (And yes, I know that it relies more on the sudoers file but I am sure there is some attack surface there ...)
Yeah IRL for most things I actually use a separate account not in the "wheel" group that doesn't have sudo access and use a Nix module that locks down directory permissions lol |
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SatyrSack
quokk.au
SatyrSack@quokk.auJoined: 2025-08-25 |
Obtainium is annoying a lot though, its probably not a fault of theirs necessarily but there is so often failure due to locating an installable build from a repo link
What? It fails because it locates an app to install? |
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Tomhero200
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Tomhero200@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-09-05 |
I know you mentioned AirVPN only having an app on their website, but you can use it with the wireguard client (you just have to make the conf file names short enough and remove special characters to import them). This is how I personally use AirVPN on Android.
That's how I do it. I use WG Tunnel (on FDroid), make the conf on the website, rename it to something short ('airvpn' for example) and import it. I only connect to one server though (Azelfafage), so I have no clue how it behaves with multiple exit nodes... Hope this helps OP! |
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Bruhh
lemmy.world
Bruhh@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-23 |
Completely agree most people have recommended proton and perhaps wind scribe. But something people tend to miss is proton, mullvad & others tend to use rented vps servers. Ivpn claims they own all of their servers hands down. If that is the case and you may need to look into this then go with them.
I believe mullvad owns most of their servers. Ivpn does not claim to own their servers. Not sure if linking is allowed but if you go to IVPN's server status page, they have a quick faq at the bottom where they mention they rent from datacenter partners. |
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Squizzy
lemmy.world
Squizzy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
What? It fails because it locates an app to install?
Yeah I would try to install from their git as much as possible but it is very inconsistent. Nothing found or no installable build found, so have to hope they are on fdroid. |
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eremophila
lemmy.zip
eremophila@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-07-20 |
How so? i know only about the CEO saying stupid things. But the technical aide?
proton are an ai company, and an email provider. do the math there. I had a 2 year subscription with them, using their vpn and email. I stopped using them after approx 6 months of product use, customer support, and paying attention to their social media manipulation, and repeated lack of attention to product quality. Throwing away the other 18 months of subscription. They are a very dodgy company, trying to be the next google, which is ironic considering how many canadian patriots are now heading there due to trump/google. Their brand is very popular with their zombie fans who struggle to think, but are very quick with upvotes, and downvotes. |
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