Especially from hexbear, which not every instance defederates from.

Though I've also seen more than a few people so proud at their choice to flaunt pushing past consent, from Lemmy.ml.

Brother, early reddit was a fucking war zone lol. I swear, I learned more grammar from outright shame than I ever did in school.

Wait, people on Lemmy.ml do what!?!

Same. Kongregate essentialy shammed me one comment at a time into having a somewhat decent grammar.

When hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml are defederated, then nearly 100% of the time the most batshit insane replies I see are from Lemmy.ml.

Echo chambers do horrible things to people:-(.

Most of Reddit's users do not post, comment, or even vote.

Tbf the 90-9-1 rule applies everywhere on social media, ostensibly including here though many claim to have merely lurked there yet actually talk here. But we may still have a 51-48-1 distribution here?

Only in some communities it was..

And, the lack of censorship wasn't a good thing. It allowed absolute shtshow's like thedonald or fatpeoplehate to exist way too long. There were also numerous pedo subreddits too which were allowed to exist apparently.

I'd argue that Reddit is at least partially responsible for a lot of f'ed up shit that many countries are now facing, by empowering those weirdos

i've started recommending feddit.org (my lemmy instance) to people that i know irl, but the difficulty is the content: too much politics (especially trump and others), and not enough shitpost.

People already know - that's the problem.

See e.g. these comments from a community that a couple of months ago was considering whether to switch from Reddit to the Threadiverse (https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/1uiywal/should_we_switch_to_lemmy/):

I tried switching to Lemmy a long time ago, but that place is toxic and full of weird people.

There are big pockets of radical tankie communities on Lemmy that like trolling and being toxic

There are a lot more reasons than this but having spent the last 3 years on the fediverse alternatives, and just seen the shit that happens over there, I feel very confident in saying it will not ever serve as a serious Reddit alternative. It will serve as something, but not Reddit

Lemmy is shit. So is reddit but Lemmy is shittier

Sadly, these seem representative of how people think of us here. You can see it for yourself too: simply browse most instances from an account without your existing blocks, in order to see what it is like from the eyes of a Redditor. Worse, they are primarily religious (Christian, Muslim, Mormon, whatever) centrists, and not only do they not FEEL welcomed here, but... in truth... they AREN'T ⁉️

Many also use - - fucking Windows!!1! (Or Macs) People here are extremely toxic towards viewpoints seen as totally, completely, 💯% incorrect.

Which makes sense. But then it begs the question: people keep saying that we should try to increase the number of people coming here from Reddit but like... do we really want that? Truly?

I wonder if accounts that are 18 years old will also be required to be verified.

The fuck you on about, scum?

Google did it so I assume they will

Shamed*

istg, what's with all the harvesting they've been doing of cat pictures over there?: 11 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 6 hours ago, 26 minutes ago ...

It can't all be karma-farming.

they already aggressively starting to force a login popup, and also trying to redirect old reddit to new reddit. there ultimate goal is to make people use the APP.

I suspect new people unknowingly went to the tankie instances.

wierdly i couldnt get around it on ironfox, it wont let me use old reddit at all. firefox with (old reddit, and sinkit, or yesterredit add on still works, and it blocks the login requirement still). the alternative is people using the alternative apps like redlib, or continuum.

thats what facebook does, reddit wants face scan and ID verification eventually.

which is pushed by the same companies that wanted it in the first place, Meta is one of the oens behind the push for age verification

reddit seemed to have lost tons of "traffic" in the past few months, which is why they are implementing the aggressive logins right now. i think it was reported on another forum that it was AI/chatgpt not referencing or scraping reddit anymore in thier summaries, which is the result of reddits ever increaisng filter that was banning people last year. they lost too much people last year as well from indisriminate bannings. so the user generated posts became less usefull, and started to be filled with most AI posting.

i try that too but its so hard to get people who are used to endless doom scrolling on reddit to accept the fact that u can scroll lemmy for 20min 2x per day and then u done (thats a good thing tho).
Its even worse for the insta brained ones...

mostly because people keep trying to go to smaller and smaller platforms. ee, was one of the large instances to disappear and almost everyone scattered so theres less people overall even contributing to lemmy,.

google's login requirement conincides with reddits login popups, (reddit depends on google). one of thier current method is limiting the amount of accounts per device.

i think there are more lemmy.ml users than the other 2 tankie instances.

i think FB has reddit beat, FB resulted in more conflicts than reddit ever did.

Am just glad I blocked them all..

instagrammers are a lost case ...

The only thing I'll kinda miss is the sub for my sports team because it's a good aggregation of news and people with insight and information comment there.

...but at the same time I won't miss it because of the endless homering and doom n gloom anytime anytime happens

Technically speaking, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte ought to be parts of the Threadiverse, too. They've always had enclosed threaded conversations and even discussion groups built in. Except for Friendica, they support FEP-171b "Conversation Containers".

But look at how few people on Lemmy have even only heard of Mastodon. Friendica is much more unknown there. Those who know Hubzilla are a subset of those who know Friendica. And (streams) and Forte are next to completely unknown beyond Hubzilla's actual users.

The size of the platform and degree of scatteredness are both kinda irrelevant when all content is shared between all of them. For there to be less content, there would have to be fewer people overall, which the stats show is the case actually - down from our peak of ~65k users after the Rexodus, which was already quite small to begin with.

Or any instance that federated with them. Unlike lemmy.world, a ton of smaller instances - all of those that I looked at, like StarTrek.website and mander.xyz and discuss.online - did not defederate from hexbear.net or Lemmygrad.ml, or ofc Lemmy.ml.

After a random comment in hexbear.net - in a post found by browsing All - and then again in Lemmygrad.ml, I almost left the Threadiverse myself. Instead, I merely left Lemmy for PieFed for a couple years before wanting to try a bunch of 3rd-party apps.

We've all had those kinds of experiences, so it is no wonder why people left and now talk about us behind our back as if we tolerate tankie toxicity - i.e. we are a tankie bar - bc we do, and we are, and they simply find that unacceptable.

bOtH sIdEs SaMe.

Im going to lift my shaft and take a front shot photo of my nutsack to send to Spez Reddit before i give in to age verification

Tbf if you are interested in topics rather than people, then Mastodon is simply inferior to the Threadiverse - as you gave the best description I've ever seen on that point.

Friendica is inferior as well, but more on the technical side. It is struggling and instances shutting down due to lack of stability and efficiency, with costs rising far too high along with number of users. They've put out calls for programming aid to help fix those issues. As a non-user, I thought their main focus was on people rather than topics of conversation though?

The Threadiverse has quite the reputation for having such solid products - whether written in Rust with custom front-end or in Python with flask front-end (and Postgresql back-end), or Mbin is in PHP, and nodeBB uses Node.js.

feddit.org

Be mindful that that is a Germany-based right-wingoid cesspit that supports and excuses the Israel genocide of Palestinians, all under the guise that "legally they can't ever be as evil as us, the Nazis".

It'll be both good and bad if it happens.

While it'll be great for the threadiverse to have more growth it will inevitably put us in the crosshairs of bot farms and AI data farmers.

Absolutely true

In fact, here in Australia, someone has now introduced legislation in parliament to force social media companies to provide a feed without the algorithm / only posts by people you subscribe to

Of course the right wing nut jobs don't like the legislation, because they rely on scare mongering and rage bait to exist

That's why you know it's great legislation

Why should we care what people that are still using Reddit do or don't do do?

Sorry, but anybody still there deserves whatever shit they get.

Whoa, source?

Only if the affected users know about the existence of lemmy, and many of them likely do not. If you happen to still be using reddit, you should use it to shill lemmy, hopefully in a diversity of subreddits so that lemmy doesn't become any more of an echo chamber than it already is.

Also, recently they require you to login to access old reddit where previously you could browse without logging in. They do not require a valid email address (yet) to create an account, so while not a total crap show, it is rapidly approaching.
This change is what led me to do a search for alternatives to reddit in which Lemmy here was suggested.

I'm doing my part, and if you still use reddit make sure to use an ad blocker and a VPN at least to make it harder to get any revenue from you.

The problem with reddit very specifically is that it was, in many ways, internet counterculture. It grabbed a very specific demographic which is much less likely to be active on Facebook - young men stepping out from their edgy teenager "it's not a stage mom" stage, and into the throes of early adulthood. So now you have this very strange thing where "youth counterculture" is sometimes (often enough to be a problem) this unholy marriage between fascist nihilism and Christian nationalism.

At least for me, I'm now here 100%.

I know it isn't named after Threads, but your average person won't. Especially when you capitalise it so it's Threadiverse instead of threadiverse.

Feddiverse?

Feels like I've been here forever but however old my lemmy account is is how long I've been off reddit.

Because if they decide to come here it will affect us?

Well, more people in general

Yes, it's no coincidence these laws started popping up globally since the trump administration entered office

Good to know!

Personally, for the most part I left Reddit even before the Lemmy exodus. But this was the final straw. Since then, full time Lemmy.