Ultimately, whatever will be will be.

Problem here is it relies on people using redit after having found lemmy. I know some people do, but I can only imagine it's a one-way valve for most.

I plan on going to smaller fediverse graphs if it ever gets too mainstream around here.

The moment I see a fuckin brand I am out. Joining whatever network has a zero tolerance policy for that corporate fuckery.

Yes, and

their ultimate goal is to make people use the APP monetise every single interaction

Reddit itself if doing their best to make sure I don't vist even accidentally

Ugh yeah that's like half the people I know irl. I don't get it

I definitely feel more motivated to participate here, because of the emphasis on human to human interactions

these people might not give Lemmy another chance, but we can try again with PieFed?

Anyone else remember when forums were just for having fun, not making the owners money or collecting data? Can't believe it used to be that way.

forcing admins to be aware that it even exists and then figure out a calculation to determine a value that would effectively disable it

at retrofed.com we carefully calculated this number, if anyone else wants to steal our research, we're using...

VOTE_QUOTA=999999999

(1 less than a billion, we're sorry to all the people casting a billion votes per day lol)

Same. I only lurk on certain Reddit threads, rarely, bc we lack niche ones here.

Well they would have to come from somewhere. Bluesky, Reddit, touching grass irl, Facebook, something.

It was easier for those of us who came here with the early-adopter mindset. The next wave will need... I'm not sure what, but something different than what worked for us earlier on.

Having attempted to use Lemmy communities via NodeBB, it's a pain. No surprise we rarely see posts or comments from NodeBB users.

I did hope so.

Technically I still do, but it's all so terribly complicated that it scares people away - Lemmy vs. PieFed vs. Mbin, and then what experience someone would get from each individual instance, like how are things on PieFed.zip vs. PieFed.social vs. quokk.au.

All of which allow exposure to tankies on Lemmy.ml, thus requiring effort on behalf of the new users to first discover the controversy and decide what to do about it, and then figure out ways to implement their decision (which as with pretty much everything else is far easier on PieFed than Lemmy).

We have a reputation problem, and PieFed does little to solve that. I once placed strong hopes that the "instance chooser" in particular would help, but that hope has not turned into reality.

Ah, thank you for sharing your experience there. So it's possible but difficult, like Mastodon (where behavior is also inconsistent) - good to know! I should probably stop listing nodeBB as a major player in the Threadiverse then.

Haha good point, no need to overthink the calculation. :-P

Though the discovery that this anti-feature was even implemented in the first place is a much higher concern. This "feature" itself is one thing, but the lack of transparency surrounding it is a whole other matter on top.

The inverse (using Lemmy to follow NodeBB boards) seems to work fine, but I haven't been able to find any that interest me

Oh neat! Or... I guess not, as you said 🤣 - either way it's good to know! 😉

Well, what makes the threadiverse great? What do we do here that we love? What could a potential user do?

I can’t wait for another wave of posters who refer to “this administration” and numbered amendments regardless of topic or international context.

There will always be one more thing.

Every time it happens, the stream of people becomes less ... pleasant on average. Not to say there aren't still good people that might come over, but the people that come at this point are pretty accepting of toxicity and are more likely to spread it.

Man you’ve got to be logged in to Reddit to see old Reddit now. The vast majority of us can’t see that.

The fediverse itself. It made quite the rounds on the grapevine for a few months. During their moment of simping for Israel in the Palestine conflict, Germany passed a law regarding "Nazi Exceptionalism" too, that basically punishes people for suggesting anyone could even try to be as evil as Nazis were, and was largely part of the rationale.

yeah thank you for informing me about the details of the instance that i've been using for checks note 4 years and am very well familiar with

also the feddit.org controversy about israel was mostly overblown. idk, probably 1 mod's personal views got exaggerated as "the whole platform thinks like this"

Use Arch Linux btw? And hate capitalism, obviously 😜.

Beyond that... I mostly use it as an RSS reader for comics and memes, and an occasional conversation with humans.

In the future, platforms like lemmy will probably have to find privacy-respecting ways of verifying that someone is a human. There are ways to prove someone is an actual human without relying on digital technologies at all. If you're trying to prove humanity and not using human solutions, you're going to fail.

Yeah the forced log in is super annoying. I’ll browse the homepage and immediately get a pop up asking me to download the app and make an account.

Super annoying since that site has more of the answers to most questions typed into Google.

Can attest to that. I tried starting a new reddit account with an anonymous email just to talk to people. Apparently reddit assumed I was a bot and shadow banned me within a week. Never had that with any other emails.

Infinite scroll + influencer slop + real world news = crabs in a bucket.

They can’t stand to not be able to see each other’s favorite reels and react back. If it weren’t so rotted and full of spyware it would be a laudable way to stay in connected. I consider it the empty calories of friendship.

child pedofiles

Isn't that... just called being normal? It's the adult pedophiles that are the problem.

other browser forks seem unaffected, while another will force the login each time.(with the old reddit redirect), and a extension that makes old reddit usable on mobile.

i only remember lemmy was a thing, when the API disaster happened after i got banned, people were really freaking out how to get back in reddit.

Imbrace fo the impact !

Fr murricans can't fathom being in an international space.

Source? Does it ?

reddit has been forcing login popups, and app downloads on most peoples browsers. not all of them though.

they will just go to instagram or tiktok, unfortunately.

Here, I've replaced all the links above with links for Redlib (a Reddit proxy) so y'all can read without trouble.

[...] 11 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 6 hours ago, 26 minutes ago ...

(Search and replace my beloved <3)

All of my comments on Reddit mentioning Lemmy got shadow banned.

The Reddit is Fun app told me to migrate to Lemmy because it was being shut down. I never heard of Reddit alternatives before that.

Can you elaborate as to what your talking about? I genuinely don't know and haven't heard this

Lemmy has already hit critical mass. More people means more bots, state actors, and trolls. But it also means more memes and small subs.

Oh ya well, go back to your country. Oh you already live there? Well...keep doing that!

we could use more niche community/games, but we're self sustaining for sure

this may be the one, mastodon is mature and lemmy 1.0 is almost out... but I fear we may need lemmy 1.1 for it to actually be a good experience, since 1.0 is such a big breaking change.

The fediverse contains a few different site frameworks that all communicate with each other based on the basic rules and formats. Lemmy, Piefed, Kbin/Mbin, etc.

I'll link a megathread which has all the details and links to citations, but basically the users who maintain and develop Lemmy, and often ship a banner alongside updates begging for funding, and also host the home page which lists their hand picked instances, they are pro-Russian invasion of Ukraine, Pro-North Korea, Anti-LGBT, and they even heavily promote Donald Trump at times while consistently shaming his opposition. They go by Dessalines and Nutonik among others.

Documentation of Lemmy.ml's Extremism [Megathread]

P.S. I could be mistaken but I think the instance you're on is still federated with Hexbear? Those are exactly the kind of Tankies we're talking about.

reddit is killing anonymous access to old.reddit. users from certain countries were asked to verify their identity.

Actually all new accounts are shadowbanned by default automatically if they start commenting too much right away. 3 months old gives you full privileges.

Hahaha good catch

when you say "Lemmy is run by pro-fascist tools of Russia and the CCP." Do you mean specifically Lemmy.ml or any part of the fediverse with the word "lemmy" in it?

I didn't ask the person that created my instance if they are a pro fascist tool. I didn't get the impression that they are but I could ask.