Replace, not extend.

I hope it can finally bring this piece of shit messaging protocol to Linux phones so my friends and family know when I read a message

The skyline has a locked bootloader that can''t be unlocked by users.

You say that until you cant even text your family or friends because every messaging application requires RCS. In the US, almost everyone is using RCS or we are using Windows with Microsoft Teams because of work. We dont use WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, etc, unless its about traveling out of the country. Apple and Google really want SMS and MMS to kick the bucket but if GOS can pull this through, Im 100% for it.

And...I guess, graphene?

That seems to be outside of their wheelhouse (intentionally), and it makes me nervous.

Wait, is my GrapheneOS phone unlikely to be hackable by Cellbrite? That's kind of amazing, I had no idea.

What's app is owned by Mark Zuckerberg and Meta.

The number of Europeans in here acting like What's App, which might as well be Facebook Messenger, is some sort of high road is hilarious.

Just move them to signal :)

it is as convenient for the users as sms/mms, unlike signal/telegram/whatsapp

It is literally a standardized communication protocol. That is what iMessage is

You can always use Waydroid

https://waydro.id/

If you phone is X:

https://github.com/1999AZZAR/use-waydroid-on-x11#installing-a-nested-wayland-compositor

I switched away from e/OS for this very reason. As much as I hate SMS based communications it just isn't practical to ditch them completely in the US. It's simply too widespread.

You're correct. EU users didn't adopt, or at least continue to utilize, SMS based messaging like users in the US did. This is not a problem for anyone using web based messaging like the ones you mentioned.

I looked at Motorola's current devices to get a sense and it's pretty sad. My plan of sticking with my used 1TB 9 Pro (non XL) holds. Honestly I need to look at phone insurance because I want to ride this thing out the full 7 years of support.

Buying a Google phone in order to get rid of Google seems sort of counterproductive, doesn't it?

Yeah I still don't get why people use or promote WhatsApp. If anything, use Signal or even Telegram

whatsApp [...] But retarded

Huh? That's literally a Meta platform... Doesn't get much worse than that. I'd sooner just use SMS

Literally everyone should just use Signal. I really don't understand why we all don't.

Goggle!

Sounds like you haven't met anyone. Or more likely, it's everyone not-you who is weird.

• GOS will code a proprietary client, like Whatsapp? I doubt…
• It's E2E with 3 ends, the 3rd one being Meta, like Whatsapp?
• There is no doc available, like Whatsapp?
• The server is as closed as one can be like Whatsapp?

Frankly, if one actor gets in RCS and gives me confidence it's going to be secure and respect our privacy as much as can be, it's GOS.
RCS might be below some other standards, but phone messaging is still a thing. GOS is not about idealistic massive adoption of Signal, it's about what's needed in the day-to-day life, but with privacy and security.

I have thought this for years. Everyone slimes on Americans for using iMessage and asks who no WhatsApp? Same reason I’m not on facebook, don’t use a meta quest, and don’t use instagram.

Where will you go after 1+?

It'll be a while I'm sure, but I'm here for it 🙌🏾

Google put out a surprising amount of documentation that allowed graphene to build everything they needed from the ground up. It basically wasn’t possible to do anything as secure and independent of Google software on any other model.

Ironically, the phone Google makes is the only option right now to get fully away from Google. Motorola is working with graphene to release a model that meets the main criteria, but it’s not out yet.

Everything they make is open source, so even if they don't officially support it, someone else will probably fork it and upload it somewhere.

Lineage pales in comparison to what cyanogenmod was

For clarification, only some Motorola phones, likely expensive flagship models, for now.

This project seems to be promising for providing a true mobile Linux experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otMoX0-PYp8

Lougle! If you get that reference lol

I'm sure it will install, but if it needs some system level thing it won't actually work. It depends how they implement it.

I'm not sure you'd have to? You should be able to just download the app and register your # and they'll just start coming.

Because Signal 1) doesn't ship as default, and 2) requires a login process.

You've already lost the majority of the general public with the former. On top of that, the Venn diagram of "people who go through with logging in" and "people who already know about Signal" has significant overlap.

Lineage was forked from the remains of CM. Without Lineage, CM would have died and faded from memory already.

Telegram is worse than even Whatsapp, since it's not even pretending to be end to end encrypted.

The real choice is signal or threema.

I use Signal via Molly and as @lka1988@sh.itjust.works points out, there's friction in getting users to on to it. But also the UX isn't even as good as WhatsApp let alone Telegram.

But the same is true for WhatsApp…

I've been using JMP.chat/Cheogram for this personally

Lol, lineage did nothing to stop that

I'm considering the new Motorola line, but I have no clue

Sure. OxygenOS was also forked from Cyanogen, but OnePlus ended up adding their own UI and (opt-in) apps.

While Whatsapp is not great, the problem with iMessage is that it is (was?) locked exclusively to the apple platform

bro trust me, its one more msg app, it is gonna solve everything, just one more bro

what ui? there is a namelist, a call icon, a message icon. what in the hell do you need?

You can't use Signal or Telegram because your contacts are on WhatsApp, but yes WhatsApp might as well be called Facebook Messenger

RCS is a protocol, not an app

one thing missing is support for Android Tablets, its pissing my GF off on her Samsung Tablet and yet it works for my mother on her ipad ffs