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sabreW4K3
lazysoci.al
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.alJoined: 2024-03-16 |
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kibblebits
quokk.au
kibblebits@quokk.au Joined: 2026-05-19 |
Good. Everything Google touches needs to be forked. |
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db2
lemmy.world
db2@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-29 |
I hope it's functionally installable on other versions of android |
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sabreW4K3
lazysoci.al
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.alJoined: 2024-03-16 |
I hope it's functionally installable on other versions of android
I read installable and instable, I was like 🫠 |
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quill7513
anarchist.nexus
quill7513@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2026-06-12 |
yooo! while i wait for mobile linux to be realistic for my device this is a win |
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Klox
lemmy.world
Klox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I've had my GV number as my primary for ~16 years. I've been on grapheneos for about a year now. Maybe I should actually pull the trigger and migrate my number to my provider and finally get RCS. All the better if GrapheneOS provides native support. |
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jumping redditor [they/them]
sh.itjust.works
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-07-30 |
will it be usable on LineageOS? could it help with RCS support on linux? |
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ExperimentalGuy
programming.dev
ExperimentalGuy@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-25 |
I like how the one comment on that article is a guy baselessly saying that RCS is an open standard. |
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Chemical Wonka
discuss.tchncs.de
chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-07-22 |
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Midnitte
beehaw.org
Midnitte@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-01 |
yooo! while i wait for mobile linux to be realistic for my device this is a win
Hopefully this work is able to be used to help further that as well |
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undrwater
lemmy.world
undrwater@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-14 |
Is RCS hosted by the carriers? If not, how to make the end run around Google? |
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MoreZombies
quokk.au
MoreZombies@quokk.au Joined: 2025-10-06 |
I like how the one comment on that article is a guy baselessly saying that RCS is an open standard.
A quick search shows that it is technically true, though..? |
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db2
lemmy.world
db2@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-29 |
I like how the one comment on that article is a guy baselessly saying that RCS is an open standard.
Open standard doesn't mean implementations are wide open to use. |
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twkm
programming.dev
twkm@programming.dev Joined: 2026-04-08 |
Is RCS hosted by the carriers? If not, how to make the end run around Google?
Some carriers do, some never did, and some did but gave up. In the end if they want wide deliverability they'll have to connect to Google's hubs (servers). It is annoying that Google doesn't provide an API for RCS as they do for SMS and MMS. |
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ByteMe
lemmy.world
ByteMe@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-02-21 |
Good. Everything Google touches needs to be forked.
Fork Google |
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ByteMe
lemmy.world
ByteMe@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-02-21 |
will it be usable on LineageOS? could it help with RCS support on linux?
Lineage os maybe. Linux, doubt |
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Eternal192
anarchist.nexus
Eternal192@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-06 |
Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don't want them to rush, i just don't want to buy a new phone to be free of Google. |
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lemmysmash
piefed.social
lemmysmash@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-26 |
For those who got too excited by the title: read the original messages from the GrapheneOS. RCS de-facto is not an open technology, there's a massive amount of work and multiple steps are needed to get anywhere near the proper independent implementation. It's gonna be amazing if the GrapheneOS team pulls it off, but don't get too excited about the release dates and its availability for other systems (e.g. Linux). |
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im_fine_sandy
nord.pub
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub Joined: 2026-08-05 |
Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don't want them to rush, i just don't want to buy a new phone to be free of Google.
I bought a second hand pixel 8 pro. I get the vibe there's not much intention to expand compatibility. |
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im_fine_sandy
nord.pub
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub Joined: 2026-08-05 |
This would be great. Definitely one of the few missing features. |
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Eternal192
anarchist.nexus
Eternal192@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-06 |
I bought a second hand pixel 8 pro. I get the vibe there's not much intention to expand compatibility.
My current daily driver is an HMD Skyline and it's been great thus far and repairability is good but it isn't listed anywhere as being supported by alternative OSs. |
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kuhli
lemmy.dbzer0.com
kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-05 |
Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don't want them to rush, i just don't want to buy a new phone to be free of Google.
They're working with Motorola to make a device |
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SirSamuel
lemmy.world
SirSamuel@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
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faizanyay
lemmy.world
faizanyay@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-01 |
Fork Google
Go fork yourself |
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Natanael
infosec.pub
Natanael@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-01-18 |
Some carriers do, some never did, and some did but gave up. In the end if they want wide deliverability they'll have to connect to Google's hubs (servers). It is annoying that Google doesn't provide an API for RCS as they do for SMS and MMS.
Only system apps can offer RCS support, so there has been essentially no 3rd party apps for it, just Google's and from a few OEMs like Samsung |
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Natanael
infosec.pub
Natanael@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-01-18 |
I like how the one comment on that article is a guy baselessly saying that RCS is an open standard.
It's open as BGP. Public documentation, nobody will connect to you if you're a nobody. |
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twkm
programming.dev
twkm@programming.dev Joined: 2026-04-08 |
Only system apps can offer RCS support, so there has been essentially no 3rd party apps for it, just Google's and from a few OEMs like Samsung
And Samsung gave up. |
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ジン
quokk.au
Dialectical_Specialist@quokk.auJoined: 2025-10-25 |
GOS team is so ambitious and I think we kinda need it too |
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Onomatopoeia
lemmy.cafe
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2025-01-02 |
Meh, RCS is too little, too late, and archaic in design. We moved away from hardware-based network identifiers in the 1980's, and RCS requires a unique hardware ID. It's fucking backwards. I will never use the garbage that is RCS - it's already dead, just needs to be buried. |
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carrylex
lemmy.world
carrylex@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-04-05 |
What the fuck is RCS? |
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Yerbouti
sh.itjust.works
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-06-26 |
2 weeks now on Graphene. This is what a phone OS should be, simple, boring, juste the basics without a shit-ton of bloatware and spying crap. |
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TVA
thebrainbin.org
TVA@thebrainbin.orgJoined: 2024-08-16 |
I've had my GV number as my primary for ~16 years. I've been on grapheneos for about a year now. Maybe I should actually pull the trigger and migrate my number to my provider and finally get RCS. All the better if GrapheneOS provides native support.
Yep, I always laugh when I think that Google managed to successfully bully Apple into supporting RCS, yet Googles own service, Google Voice, doesn't! |
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smeg
feddit.uk
smeg@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-01 |
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sorghum
sh.itjust.works
sorghum@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-18 |
Fork Google
We keep trying, but the courts are ok with monopolies. |
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jumping redditor [they/them]
sh.itjust.works
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-07-30 |
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it's trying to extend the sms/mms system |
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fleem
piefed.zeromedia.vip
fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vipJoined: 2025-11-20 |
Fork Google
fork it right out the ass |
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besmtt
lemmy.world
besmtt@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
I've had my GV number as my primary for ~16 years. I've been on grapheneos for about a year now. Maybe I should actually pull the trigger and migrate my number to my provider and finally get RCS. All the better if GrapheneOS provides native support.
I'm in this same boat.. FOMO is hitting me hard. I think GV is the heaviest anchor holding me to Google right now.. :-\ |
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carrylex
lemmy.world
carrylex@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-04-05 |
Ok so RCS is basically WhatsApp/Signal but Google(+Carriers) but retarded:
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f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4
sopuli.xyz
f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2024-03-25 |
Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don't want them to rush, i just don't want to buy a new phone to be free of Google.
Only phones that can have the bootloader relocked by Graphene will be supported. New Motorola phones are coming but they will be expensive. Get a Pixel (not 11). |
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Ricaz
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-08-16 |
2 weeks now on Graphene. This is what a phone OS should be, simple, boring, juste the basics without a shit-ton of bloatware and spying crap.
This has been available since forever, though. Cyanogenmod/LineageOS was the biggest. Oneplus followed along and I love my OP15, though that's coming to a bitter end |
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Ricaz
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-08-16 |
Ok so RCS is basically WhatsApp/Signal but Google(+Carriers) but retarded: The client software is propiertary and screws you over when you e.g. root your phone They finally realized that E2EE exists - 10 years after everyone else implemented it You can't view the docs unless you're a Google Partner The protocol seems to be a mess You need a mobile data connection for it to work (sometimes not) ...
What messaging service works without a data connection? 3G is shut down and 2G will follow soon. |
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CorrectAlias
piefed.blahaj.zone
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-07-22 |
Only phones that can have the bootloader relocked by Graphene will be supported. New Motorola phones are coming but they will be expensive. Get a Pixel (not 11).
That's just one of the things required for graphene, there are a lot of hardware security features that are also required. Only Pixels (not Pixel 11) have these so far, but the Motorola phones will change that of course. |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
We keep trying, but the courts are ok with monopolies.
They suddenly care about monopolies whenever a major competitor threatens to shift the balance of the market by providing alternatives... |
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Boo! Haunted House!
lemmy.world
lemmyng@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-16 |
That's just one of the things required for graphene, there are a lot of hardware security features that are also required. Only Pixels (not Pixel 11) have these so far, but the Motorola phones will change that of course.
As of now, for clarification, Pixels 6-10 series, Tablet and Fold are supported by GrapheneOS. The new Motorola phones releasing next year will also support GrapheneOS. |
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Sunshine
piefed.ca
Sunshine@piefed.caJoined: 2025-06-07 |
RCS is finally good now! |
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trebach
sh.itjust.works
trebach@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-08-10 |
They're working with Motorola to make a device
It's supposed to be out next year but only the highest end devices will be supported because GrapheneOS requires certain security features in the firmware and hardware that Pixel 11, the lower end Motorola devices, and the other brands don't/won't have. |
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trebach
sh.itjust.works
trebach@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-08-10 |
I bought a second hand pixel 8 pro. I get the vibe there's not much intention to expand compatibility.
They require certain features that most phones don't have in order to be willing to support them. They want phones with GrapheneOS to be impossible to break into even by sophisticated methods such as Cellbrite so it defeats the purpose if it can be circumvented by methods that don't involve the OS. |
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sanitation
lemmy.today
sanitation@lemmy.todayJoined: 2026-05-05 |
Very much needed. |
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sanitation
lemmy.today
sanitation@lemmy.todayJoined: 2026-05-05 |
Only phones that can have the bootloader relocked by Graphene will be supported. New Motorola phones are coming but they will be expensive. Get a Pixel (not 11).
Yeah but can you really trust pixels? Google hardware, ewww. |
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Mountaineer
aussie.zone
Mountaineer@aussie.zoneJoined: 2023-06-12 |
What messaging service works without a data connection? IPoAC? 3G is shut down and 2G will follow soon.
mobile data connection. As opposed to wifi or the pigeons you linked. |
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MalReynolds
slrpnk.net
MalReynolds@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-06-25 |
It's supposed to be out next year but only the highest end devices will be supported because GrapheneOS requires certain security features in the firmware and hardware that Pixel 11, the lower end Motorola devices, and the other brands don't/won't have.
Seems like Pixel 11 has the hardware but they turned the Arm Memory Tagging Extension (MTE) off in firmware for 'performance' reasons. gOS has been able to turn it back on, but the jury's still out on whether they'll support it as I understand it. |
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