And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria.

Point being?

The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham.

Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality.

That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc.

The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained.

The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe.

The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge.

Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation.

Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed.

The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ".

Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful.

Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child.

Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father.

They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy".

Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting.

Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature.
There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean?

But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that.

And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy

Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god.

Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations)

Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal

Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand

Spirits don't exist.

Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time?

You: "I want to be your friend."

Me: "Here is what I am going through and why."

You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points."

You should shut the fuck up.

It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context

THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality."

Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books.
Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss.

No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence.

Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is.

I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel.

Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason.

1 John 2:

He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.

The famous John 3:16:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Luke 9, "die for me":

For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it.

Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh:

And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”

Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah:

The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet

And it echoes Matthew 3:

And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser:

Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”

What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin?

After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher.

That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise.

Spirits don't exist.

No shit.

There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right.

Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself

I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat.

But also your not the first person with this problem that i deal with in life.

Maybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics?
Or would the irony get lost on you?

On the actual topic of the bible versus.

So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope.

Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either)

That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally.

The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others.

Stop allowing them to have a hold over you.

I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait.

Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot.

Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting.

You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity.

Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature.

Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture?

There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean?

Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely.

But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that.

Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT.

And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy

If it's christian, it's a death cult.

If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ.

Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for?

Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god.

The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god.

What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"?

Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations)

Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims.

Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin?

The one most christians believe, yes.

But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil.

The one time? LOL.

God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones:

He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.”

Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell:

Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth

Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with.

Leviticus 17:

For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

Numbers 29:

It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you

Now let's get to Jesus.

Hebrews 9:

Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Matthew 26:

For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

John 1:

The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

As previously mentioned, 1 John 2:

He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world

Romans 5:

More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

Ephesians 1:

In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace

Colossians 1:

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Revelation 1:

And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood

I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal

Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem.

Can you acknowledge each of these points?

A: yahweh is a death god

B: the bible describes yahweh as loving

C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time

D: most christians think reading the bible is important

E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs

F: our beliefs drive our actions

If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape.

This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too."

Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult.

Magical thinking is killing us.

If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality.

Can you acknowledge each of these points?

Sure, no problem just dont get upset when my answer don’t match your beliefs.

A: yahweh is a death god

As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely.

B: the bible describes yahweh as loving

No, I never got that vibe from any of them.
I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version.

C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time

No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare.

D: most christians think reading the bible is important

No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did

E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs

Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important.

F: our beliefs drive our actions

For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way.

There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right.

Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary.

STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE.

Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself

Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that.

I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with.

Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic.

So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat.

Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims.

Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics?

Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize.

Or would the irony get lost on you?

I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it.

Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying.

So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope.

Have. You. Read. The. Text?

Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either)

Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit.

Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes?

That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally.

Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass.

The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars.

If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian.

Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others.

I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence.

Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better.

Stop allowing them to have a hold over you.

STOP DEFENDING THEM.

Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more.

Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority.

Why are you pretending these connections don't exist?

I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait.

You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church.

I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ.

It's a bigger problem than you realize.

Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot.

No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off.

And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth.

Your father is moron.

Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality.

I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. but i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people.

Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition.

If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them.

Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you.

Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents

Why still printed
I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade.

Zealots also claim there helping people.

As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely.

In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is.

Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking.

In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides.

No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version.

It's explicit.

What was that John 3:16 verse again?

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Romans 5:

But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Zephaniah 3:

The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing.

1 John 3:

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him.

Psalm 86:

But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness.

Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe.

Deuteronomy 7:

Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations

We get a twofer in Ephesians 2:

But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ

And in Jeremiah 31:

The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you.

Etc.

No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare.

It's the one called "the christian bible".

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction

No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did

You forgot the research I cited before.

A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/

I acknowledge that it also says:

The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this.

But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs.

This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day.

Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important.

I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it.

For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way.

Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise.

Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions.

What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs?

Just because it says so does not mean you have to believe it.

Sorry for repeating myself but taking a christian text literally is still very much a Protestant cult thing.

The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages.

Your father is moron.

Correct.

What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design.

Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality.

What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing.

I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic.

You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it.

i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people.

It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise.

Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition.

What a stupid thing to say.

Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings"

If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine.

No, you're the one making it personal.

I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking.

Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them.

Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims.

I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good.

Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you.

You started it. Quit defending death cults.

Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents

OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS.

I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade.

It's everywhere.

In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021.

This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time.

https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide

China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly

India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022

https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/

Zealots also claim there helping people.

Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality.

The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages.

They got that idea from the bible itself.

In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity.

You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t.

How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself.

I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic.

And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. I kinda ran out of taboo words to further explain this part to you so i am gonna stop trying.

No, you're the one making it personal.

I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning, it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend.

why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss

The irony is lost on you. Thats not even a question.

Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not.

You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t.

You do, by your own admission.

How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself.

Tell us more about your spirituality.

I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic.

But it is belief in magic.

And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same.

Because it's the same baseless magical thinking.

What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists?

No, you're the one making it personal.

No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it.

I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning

The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending.

it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend.

If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me.

The irony is lost on you.

Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work.

Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not.

Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find.

No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered.

You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying.

I already told you i am no fan of protestants, i am not defending them.

Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail.

Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own.

I have referenced the following a coulle of time, i still believe that on principle you approve of it. But that the terminology keeps blinding you.

Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity.

Spiritual = \ = magic.

If i believed in magic i would say so.

See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless

Fuck myself to death? Now who is preaching a death cult?

Spiritual = \ = magic.

Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality.

If i believed in magic i would say so.

Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents.

See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless

I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men.

In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs.

Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail.

Surely you don't believe that.

Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner.

That should make you angry enough to intervene.

Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy.

Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own.

That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult.

Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity.

But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god.

a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete

I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims.

The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here.

In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers.

It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera.

Links if you are interested:

https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist

https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist

Where in the article does it indicate how recent her support was? WP indicates 2024.