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Hello, is this the based department?

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ZkhqrD5o lemmy.world ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
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This is long overdue.

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Starya67 lemmy.world starlinguk@lemmy.world
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Not countering the US, though, are they.

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HM King Charles III DG FD feddit.uk Flax_vert@feddit.uk
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Not countering the US, though, are they.

Should do digitally imho

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myrmidex belgae.social myrmidex@belgae.social
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Not countering the US, though, are they.

Of course not, no threat from American cars

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Waterpumpee lemmus.org Waterpumpee@lemmus.org
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Basically just a suggestion that public contracts dont have to choose the cheapest if its china. But they still can. This is a toothless tiger.

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Eternal192 anarchist.nexus Eternal192@anarchist.nexus
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People are buying Chinese because they can't afford European.

Same was in my country when we entered the EU and we got Lidl and people started buying from Lidl because it was half the price as local goods so it was the same "buy local, support our communities" and people didn't go back because they couldn't afford it or they now had the money to maybe go on a vacation or pay some debts.

It's always the same, they don't want us to buy cheap products and they don't want to pay us fair wages, or at least stop inflating prices for local goods.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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Of course not, no threat from American cars

i would think no one would want one of those behemoths, especially with current fuel prices. my brain's wired a little different tho

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saltesc lemmy.world saltesc@lemmy.world
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i would think no one would want one of those behemoths, especially with current fuel prices. my brain's wired a little different tho

They're pointless in Europe. 2-door Wranglers are common enough, but in general there's just way better options in capability and quality, for much less.

Driving an American car is a sign that your not very smart or you're new to Europe.

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kuiskaaja lemmy.ml kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml
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Starya67 lemmy.world starlinguk@lemmy.world
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i would think no one would want one of those behemoths, especially with current fuel prices. my brain's wired a little different tho

Funnily enough, Dodge is French/Italian.

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Rahelno piefed.social Rahelno@piefed.social
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That might be because they are threatening european companies and Industries leading to dependencies which threaten european sovereignity.

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GardenGeek europe.pub GardenGeek@europe.pub
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That might be because they are threatening european companies and Industries leading to dependencies which threaten european sovereignity.

https://news.sky.com/story/former-assistant-to-afd-politician-found-guilty-of-chinese-spy-charges-13441157

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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"urged"

The sold out neoliberals in the EU Commission would never go against the people that give them millionaire non-executive board memberships when they retire by doing anything in any way form or shape against hardcore neoliberal economics.

This shit is just neoliberal style talkie-talkie and even then it's in the service of incredibly uncompetitive corporate behemoths which have spent the last 2 decades with enshittification and anti-social products (SUVs are 70% more likely to killl a pedestrian in a collision) instead of innovation - the "Constructive Destruction" of a Free Market is only for the plebes.

These crooks and the fatcats who hold their strings deserve any shit they reap from the seeds they've been sowing for at least 2 decades - certainly the rest of us (just look at enshittification and the recent PISA results) are already suffering from their decades of via the EU pushing EU nations more and more towards a variant of hardcore neoliberalism that favors ever less competitive and innovative large companies with captured markets or in cartels.

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Gonzako lemmy.world Gonzako@lemmy.world
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People are buying Chinese because they can't afford European. Same was in my country when we entered the EU and we got Lidl and people started buying from Lidl because it was half the price as local goods so it was the same "buy local, support our communities" and people didn't go back because they couldn't afford it or they now had the money to maybe go on a vacation or pay some debts. It's al...

Yeah, I cried the day the EU put a tariff on aliexpress. I was just not eating out 2 less days a month to buy myself a fuck ton of trinkets and oddities

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katy ✨ piefed.blahaj.zone cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
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make things better than china and you won't need a buy european demand.

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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That might be because they are threatening european companies and Industries leading to dependencies which threaten european sovereignity.

That might be because they are threatening european companies and Industries leading to dependencies which threaten european sovereignity.

When you have a rotting tooth and you'll let it fester, sooner or later you'll have to feel the short sharp pain of having it pulled in order to reach relief - you're going to lose it either way but this way you don't spend year in pain and don't risk actual death if the rot spreads.

I think European politicians who have spent literally decades tilting the playing field in favor of large companies instead of flatenning market barriers to entry in important markets and punishing cartels with fines large enough to actually bankrupt companies, are a lot more to blame for the situation were certain large European conglomerates could grown fat and lazy by enshittifying instead of innovating and even selling products which shouldn't be allowed due to their danger (for example SUV's are 70% more likely to kill pedestrians in collisons than sedans and don't get me started with the tens of thousands of EU citizens that die each year due to the higher diesel emissions of sulfur oxides) all the while it was painfully obvious a technological sea change was happening.

This shit we see now is the result of the hardcore neoliberals that dominate the EU refusing to actually do the "govern" part of governing all the while the Chinese (who, laughably, aren't even Capitalists) beat them in the Capitalist game by having actual high-level cross-industry strategies rather than "leave it to The Market".

Go figure - you can't win a "War" by having an "Army" where nobody sits at the top level doing Strategy and commanding those below them and expecting that "Having good Tactics is enough to win".

Literally denying a large part of the body of knowledge of Game Theory (most notably the Tragedy Of The Commons) and picking and choosing from Behavioural Economics (Nudge Theory yes, Humans not being rational economic actors, no) is a great way to set a society up for long-term failure.

This rotten tooth could've been treated early enough that it wouldn't need to be pulled, but the dominant politics in the EU is basically "each body cell knows best" and "the brain can't interfere with the free operation of the body", terminantly refusing to act as a top-down agent in oversight, so here we are now.

Protectionism now without a proper strategy to force more competitiveness in European car makers will just delay the innevitable reckoning or (it the market is totally closed) force the EU population and businesses to have higher costs than others because the market was closed to protect companies that spent decades chosing short term profits over mid and long term success, thus hindering the competitiveness of the rest of the EU Economy to protect a few fatcats.

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
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make things better than china and you won't need a buy european demand.

thats blatantly not true. globalism is about dodging regulation and lower paid employees. If quality of product were the main forces then germany and japan would have kept up the way they do things and be dominant. The china followed the us dollar dominated efficiency standard where quality is titrated to lowest good enough level.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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Funnily enough, Dodge is French/Italian.

the Ram sure as hell isn't

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kuiskaaja lemmy.ml kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml
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That might be because they are threatening european companies and Industries leading to dependencies which threaten european sovereignity.
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wewbull feddit.uk wewbull@feddit.uk
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People are buying Chinese because they can't afford European. Same was in my country when we entered the EU and we got Lidl and people started buying from Lidl because it was half the price as local goods so it was the same "buy local, support our communities" and people didn't go back because they couldn't afford it or they now had the money to maybe go on a vacation or pay some debts. It's al...

"procurement" is about government spending. The government can afford whatever the fuck it wants.

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Starya67 lemmy.world starlinguk@lemmy.world
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the Ram sure as hell isn't

It is. Stellantis. Head office in the Netherlands. They have plants in the US and a commercial presence but they're not US owned.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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It is. Stellantis. Head office in the Netherlands. They have plants in the US and a commercial presence but they're not US owned.

how dare y'all inflict the ram on us. what did we ever do to you?

oh right.

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Rahelno piefed.social Rahelno@piefed.social
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Gouvernement funding based in targeted economic plans and cheap labor are not superior products.

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