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technocrit lemmy.dbzer0.com technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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“China-based artificial intelligence companies are conducting systematic extraction of proprietary functionalities and capabilities of U.S. AI companies’ models through industrial-scale knowledge distillation campaigns that form the core—not merely a supplement—of their AI development strategy,” the agencies wrote.

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DeathsEmbrace lemmy.world DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
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So let's go after China illegally taking the model because of copyright? The same copyright laws every A.I. breaks? Hypocrisy is back in Republican colours. Can you even say A.I. is allowed to say or do anything since they literally always use someone else's words?

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-20
#3 · Quote Reply

Considered how many people hate AI. This would be considered a good news to a lot of people

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ghost_laptop lemmy.ml gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-11-25
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So let's go after China illegally taking the model because of copyright? The same copyright laws every A.I. breaks? Hypocrisy is back in Republican colours. Can you even say A.I. is allowed to say or do anything since they literally always use someone else's words?

republicans? hypocrisy is at the heart of us political doctrine, no matter what party.

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Riskable programming.dev riskable@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-23
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So let's go after China illegally taking the model because of copyright? The same copyright laws every A.I. breaks? Hypocrisy is back in Republican colours. Can you even say A.I. is allowed to say or do anything since they literally always use someone else's words?

Woah! Nobody said anything about this being illegal! Not even the article.

Zero laws are broken in "distillation attacks" aka "see what their product does when we give it this prompt."

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DeathsEmbrace lemmy.world DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world
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Woah! Nobody said anything about this being illegal! Not even the article. Zero laws are broken in "distillation attacks" aka "see what their product does when we give it this prompt."

Except the implication is based on copyright. It’s not illegal now but, the republican muppets can make it illegal.

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-27
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If you get to steal, China gets to steal, fuck off

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-01-18
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🎻

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-01-18
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So let's go after China illegally taking the model because of copyright? The same copyright laws every A.I. breaks? Hypocrisy is back in Republican colours. Can you even say A.I. is allowed to say or do anything since they literally always use someone else's words?

And at least Chinese companies are releasing their models in the open, arguably that's closer to doing piracy where you take copyrighted content and make it generally available to people. American companies ignore copyrights and keep the models proprietary.

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DeathsEmbrace lemmy.world DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world
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And at least Chinese companies are releasing their models in the open, arguably that's closer to doing piracy where you take copyrighted content and make it generally available to people. American companies ignore copyrights and keep the models proprietary.

I don't care about that its pure bullshit and hypocrisy is my problem. It's the whole "China is evil" from western society when they do the exact same shit. Windows 11 and microsoft is basically international spyware but, noone gives a shit unless its a Chinese company doing it.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-01-18
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I don't care about that its pure bullshit and hypocrisy is my problem. It's the whole "China is evil" from western society when they do the exact same shit. Windows 11 and microsoft is basically international spyware but, noone gives a shit unless its a Chinese company doing it.

Oh for sure, no argument there.

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Bilb! lemmy.ml bilb@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-12-23
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Except the implication is based on copyright. It’s not illegal now but, the republican muppets can make it illegal.

IP, anyway, if not copyright specifically.

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