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Subway construction in English-speaking countries is even more expensive than previously thought, compared to the rest of the world
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Orwi programming.dev Orwi@programming.dev
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gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev
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Ok, but can we agree that the image shows a superway, not a subway?

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-15
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Ok, but can we agree that the image shows a superway, not a subway?

Mildly infuriating.

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Danarchy lemmy.nz Danarchy@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2025-12-07
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Ok, but can we agree that the image shows a superway, not a subway?

THIS IS WHY ITS MORE EXPENSIVE

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
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Ok, but can we agree that the image shows a superway, not a subway?

Always a subway, never a domway 😔

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woelkchen lemmy.world woelkchen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Speak Spanish then.

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thejml sh.itjust.works thejml@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-16
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But have we thought about all the money and time and gas and everything else that it saves us in the end? Because we can build subways/light rails/public transit.... or we can all try to drive to work at the same time and sit in gridlock burning gas wasting time and being pissed off because the roads can't handle it.

And good luck fixing all the roads and infrastructure to prevent the twice a day gridlock cheaper than this public transit.

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RunawayFixer lemmy.world RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-02
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An anecdote:
Many years ago I travelled from France to London and I witnessed some of the groundworks for the future high-speed rails on both sides of the channel. On a weekend day, so no actual work was going on.

On the French side the groundworks were almost finished. It was just a wide smooth expanse of gravel that went on and on. The transition from where the gravel was compacted + graded to where it still needed work was a clear line. The site fencing was continuous and intact everywhere. The large machines were neatly parked together in separately fenced off areas, near that transition line between finished/to do.

In England the works looked not even close to finished. The gravel looked like they had been making a BMX track for jeeps, several very bumpy narrow paths next to each other, with ridges in between, without any section of the trajectory looking finished. It looked like they were working everywhere at the same time. Fencing was a jumbled mess. The many more + much smaller machines were haphazardly parked around the gravel (weekend). Parked on one of the hills of the BMX track there was the tiniest bulldozer that I have ever seen on a construction site that wasn't a renovation project, for such a massive project its prominent presence was hilarious imo.

With how the English worked on their part of the project, it was inevitable that they would be over budget, over time, and deliver with worse quality (with higher future costs for the client as a consequence).

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HobbitFoot thelemmy.club HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2023-06-16
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But have we thought about all the money and time and gas and everything else that it saves us in the end? Because we can build subways/light rails/public transit.... or we can all try to drive to work at the same time and sit in gridlock burning gas wasting time and being pissed off because the roads can't handle it. And good luck fixing all the roads and infrastructure to prevent the twice a d...

The issue is that the money for transit isn't going as far as other countries. Other countries can get multiple projects built at the cost of building one in the English speaking world. Fixing the issue will likely require reform in several areas.

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thejml sh.itjust.works thejml@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-16
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The issue is that the money for transit isn't going as far as other countries. Other countries can get multiple projects built at the cost of building one in the English speaking world. Fixing the issue will likely require reform in several areas.

Agreed. My point is more "just because it costs more, doesn't mean it isn't still worth it"

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PalmTreeIsBestTree lemmy.world PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
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The issue is that the money for transit isn't going as far as other countries. Other countries can get multiple projects built at the cost of building one in the English speaking world. Fixing the issue will likely require reform in several areas.

The main reason is common law putting up roadblocks legally which most English speaking countries use. It needs to be reformed to some degree I think.

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HobbitFoot thelemmy.club HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2023-06-16
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The main reason is common law putting up roadblocks legally which most English speaking countries use. It needs to be reformed to some degree I think.

The issue with common law tends to be more involving the endless appeals to slow down a project. There are other issues as well.

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Bruncvik lemmy.world Bruncvik@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
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Finally a good reason to brush up on my Irish.

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PalmTreeIsBestTree lemmy.world PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
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The issue with common law tends to be more involving the endless appeals to slow down a project. There are other issues as well.

Valid

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