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People only hate ai because they have access to it. If it were too expensive for the *common folk* it would be seen as luxurious or elite.
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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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remon ani.social remon@ani.social
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I don't have access to it, still hate it.

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Starya67 lemmy.world starlinguk@lemmy.world
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Wilful ignorance is the worst ignorance.

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artifex piefed.zip artifex@piefed.zip
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I think people hate AI because:

  • it's trained on their stolen works
  • they get no credit or payment when derivative works are made
  • it let's business owners threaten to dismiss more workers (who need to work to live, since there are no safety nets in place)
  • when workers DO get displaced by AI, the AI does a shoddier job (enshittifying products and processes)
  • further enables and accelerates the concentration of capital to the absolutely-most-wealthy-people

I could go on and on.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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I don't have access to it, still hate it.

Need a link?

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slazer2au lemmy.world slazer2au@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
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Loss leaders are a thing. The problem is the ai companies don't have the high margin alternative products to offset the losses.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I think people hate AI because: it's trained on their stolen works they get no credit or payment when derivative works are made it let's business owners threaten to dismiss more workers (who need to work to live, since there are no safety nets in place) when workers DO get displaced by AI, the AI does a shoddier job (enshittifying products and processes) further enables and accelerates the conc...

These are implementation critiques

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remon ani.social remon@ani.social
Joined: 2024-09-25
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Need a link?

Sure, it's always good to check if my blocklist is up-to-date and working.

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
Joined: 2024-10-06
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I can't afford a cybertruck; I still don't want one and think they are stupid as fuck. AI would be the same.

I also need to ask: Are you hurt? This is the kind of showerthought one would have after slipping and hitting their head in there.

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Xaphanos lemmy.world Xaphanos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Loss leaders are a thing. The problem is the ai companies don't have the high margin alternative products to offset the losses.

We most certainly do. Pharma work pays big, for example.

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artifex piefed.zip artifex@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-12-16
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These are implementation critiques

This is what people know as "AI" right now (because it's being shoved down their throats that way)

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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I can't afford a cybertruck; I still don't want one and think they are stupid as fuck. AI would be the same. I also need to ask: Are you hurt? This is the kind of showerthought one would have after slipping and hitting their head in there.

Naoh

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Xaphanos lemmy.world Xaphanos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
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These are implementation critiques

Additionally, many complaints center on environmental concerns that are also implementation issues. Relatively few people are content creators.

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Vandals_handle lemmy.world Vandals_handle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
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These are implementation critiques

Your entire argument is nothing but an implementation critique.

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Assassassin lemmy.dbzer0.com Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-26
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You can remove the "ish" from your username

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-20
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I think the only salty person is you

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apfelwoiSchoppen lemmy.world apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-01
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People don't hate food, air, and water because they have access to it.

This argument is beyond stupid and classist af.

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TrackinDaKraken lemmy.world DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-26
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We have access to it, so we can see that it's shit. Yes.

If we didn't have access to it, and didn't know anything about it, then we couldn't have a fair opinion on its quality. And, yes, by definition it would be seen as luxurious.

I'm not sure what your point is.

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ViatorOmnium piefed.social ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-11
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People hate private jets too.

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GalacticGrapefruit lemmy.world GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-30
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You sure? I think it has something to do with the mind-boggling amount of ecological and economic damage it has done to our world.

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fake sh.itjust.works fake@sh.itjust.works
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We most certainly do. Pharma work pays big, for example.

Do pharma need LLM chuds though?

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runner_g piefed.blahaj.zone runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-11-29
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These are implementation critiques

Data centers needed for AI are driving up electricity costs to surrounding residents, they use ungodly amounts of water to cool the systems and dump that now hot water back into the ecosystem, causing ecosystem collapse or into the municipal wastewater process, overloading treatment plants, children are using it to do their homework, potentially harming their ability to critically read and write (this is still being studied, and most evidence is anecdotal or still in review).

Electrical and water usage - Penn State U

https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/ask-expert-are-data-centers-driving-my-electricity-bills

Other electrical effects of AI and water demand - DW

https://www.dw.com/en/the-hidden-environmental-cost-of-ai-data-centers/a-78789889

Deep dive into water usage by data centers - University of Georgia

https://fieldreport.caes.uga.edu/publications/TP121/how-data-centers-impact-surface-and-ground-waters/

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Starya67 lemmy.world starlinguk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
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I think people hate AI because: it's trained on their stolen works they get no credit or payment when derivative works are made it let's business owners threaten to dismiss more workers (who need to work to live, since there are no safety nets in place) when workers DO get displaced by AI, the AI does a shoddier job (enshittifying products and processes) further enables and accelerates the conc...

You forgot the environment and the energy prices.

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yesman lemmy.world yesman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
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You need a plumber, your shower is broken

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Rhynoplaz lemmy.world Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
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You need a plumber, your shower is broken

No plumbers available. AI is now responsible for fixing the shower.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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Your entire argument is nothing but an implementation critique.

Exactly

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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You can remove the "ish" from your username

Electrolytes are good for you but you mighr be over doing it.

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Assassassin lemmy.dbzer0.com Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-26
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Electrolytes are good for you but you mighr be over doing it.

Spell much?

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Spell much?

Sorry, ill run it through an llm

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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People hate private jets too.

And we know how principled the average person is

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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We have access to it, so we can see that it's shit. Yes. If we didn't have access to it, and didn't know anything about it, then we couldn't have a fair opinion on its quality. And, yes, by definition it would be seen as luxurious. I'm not sure what your point is.

I dont see how its shit. Maybe its shit if youre using it to do slop creative works. From an it perspective its game changing.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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People don't hate food, air, and water because they have access to it. This argument is beyond stupid and classist af.

You eating prime rib tonight?

What high dollar scotch you cracking into?

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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Data centers needed for AI are driving up electricity costs to surrounding residents, they use ungodly amounts of water to cool the systems and dump that now hot water back into the ecosystem, causing ecosystem collapse or into the municipal wastewater process, overloading treatment plants, children are using it to do their homework, potentially harming their ability to critically read and writ...

Wowo interesting, describe to me how a closed loop cooling tower works.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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I think the only salty person is you

What's so salty about me?

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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This is what people know as "AI" right now (because it's being shoved down their throats that way)

Yes, but the sad thing is if it weren't implemented as a resource for all it wouldn't carry the same anti weight.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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Sure, it's always good to check if my blocklist is up-to-date and working.

You should add me to that

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Loss leaders are a thing. The problem is the ai companies don't have the high margin alternative products to offset the losses.

Sounds like a problem for ai companies to solve unless your concern is their success or larger economical impacts. Not a real critique of the technology itself.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wilful ignorance is the worst ignorance.

Seriously, you should work on that

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MidsizedSedan lemmy.world MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-08
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You eating prime rib tonight? What high dollar scotch you cracking into?

I'm having cereal for dinner, and I too hate AI

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
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I'm having cereal for dinner, and I too hate AI

Sounds weird. Hope you feel better.

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daannii lemmy.world daannii@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-08
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I think people hate AI because: it's trained on their stolen works they get no credit or payment when derivative works are made it let's business owners threaten to dismiss more workers (who need to work to live, since there are no safety nets in place) when workers DO get displaced by AI, the AI does a shoddier job (enshittifying products and processes) further enables and accelerates the conc...

And hastening Dead Internet.

Though that one was already in the works. But Ai is certainly fast tracking it.

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
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I respectfully disagree but I upvoted because it is a quality shower thought

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

People don't hate food, air, and water because they have access to it. This argument is beyond stupid and classist af.

It is almost like it was conceived in the shower

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DoubleDongle lemmy.world DoubleDongle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-23
#44 · Quote Reply

No, I think I'd actually hate it a lot more like that

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forestbeasts pawb.social forestbeasts@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-09
#45 · Quote Reply

Nah.

I look at the people letting LLMs do all their thinking for them and think "what the fuck are they even doing?". I want none of that shit.

-- Frost

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forestbeasts pawb.social forestbeasts@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-09
#46 · Quote Reply

What's so salty about me?

I slipped with the salt shaker, oops.

-- Ylfingr

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surewhynotlem lemmy.world surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
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This is called a scarcity mindset. It's the same reason that luxury brands can charge ridiculous amounts of money for shit that looks ugly as hell.

Yes, a good number of people have this mindset.

And yes, they're all wrong.

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