Liberals be like:

In a world full of Musks be a George Hayduke.

This is a discussion I have in my ethics classes. I like to use Kohlberg's Model of moral development (one of many options) as the framework for the discussion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg's_stages_of_moral_development

Under than model, all too many people (upwards of 40% in one study) get stuck at level 4, which means they see the law as the moral system. Dangerous thinking that's often how bullies, political evils, and Authoritarians gain power over the public. Once they can control the laws, those people will just follow along because they can't even envision how challenging the law for humanity's well-being is even possible.

That's true, but the purpose of laws is to establish a bare minimum of satisfactory behavior in contemporary society.

That is to say, people who don't understand why you shouldn't steal things, are still held to that standard of behavior.

if that was the case, the stealing class wouldn't have robbed people for hundreds of years. yet, stealing is now called “profit.”

Dealting it was legal
Smellting it was criminalized

Very strong I'm-13-and-this-is-deep energy. Well done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_territory#/media/File:World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg

Yellow, Orange and red represent places where it is illegal to be gay with orange and red being places where being gay is punishable by death. In the holocaust, gay people were not just loathed by the Nazis, but also loathed by other groups who were also being persecuted and murdered. When other groups were freed from the concentration camps, gay people were often sent from the camps to prisons due to their “liberators” still considering them to be criminals.

don't snipe at people 'cause they understand society better than you do. that's exactly why you should be taking notes instead of talking back.

Do I have to take my notes in the existing shower thoughts format or can I transcribe to plain english?

It should not be illegal to be gay with orange, but it is a bit weird

Argh, Wikipedia/media duplicating browser functionality is annoying fiddly.

Stage 7: we are just another species on this rock.
What if a Rhesus Ape dominated and burned forests for their crop, littered persistent and poisonous plastic everywhere? Would you also sometimes get mad like Elephants do?

Right?

Very strong I-don't-have-any-actual-counter-arguments-so-I-resort-to-personal-insults energy. Well done.

There's not really any counter argument to be made to a argument like "profit is theft"

Protesting racism wasn't criminalized. The issue was that the legal means to protest racism weren't very effective. So, people intentionally broke certain laws to draw attention to the struggle. The overreaction by the police to those laws being broken drew attention and gained sympathy for the protesters.

This shouldn't have a US flag, it's a fucking global issue.

It should be "resisting" or something. "Protesting" is more specific.

US flag? where??

Resisting racism was allowed too. What wasn't allowed was say sitting in the wrong place on the bus.

Look behind "FRIENDLY REMINDER"

i see it now aswell

Distinction without a difference, functionally speaking.

Ah, but you guys are the leaders of the free fascist world.

The US is a global hegemon.

Who has the right to live?

The spider, which subsists on it's prey? Or the fly, stuck in the spider's web?

No idea why this is being downvoted.

The underlying theory behind The Holocaust, chattle slavery, and segregation was the upholding of property rights. @im_fine_sandy@nord.pub has the problem dead to rights. Holding property above people consistently leads to hypercriminalization of the underclass.

Because im_fine_sandy is fine with the rule makers owning private properties and capitalization, otherwise they wouldn't demand lawyering be a convention for morality.

Morality existed far longer than laws and court.

Anarchists are saying lawyering made rulers ruler.

Anarchists are saying lawyering made rulers ruler.

Wait, what?

Which Anarchist has ever said this?

Morality existed far longer than laws and court.

Morality without consensus, which leads to conflict and violence

Plenty

Morality without consensus, which leads to conflict and violence

Self-belief, or do you have anthropological evidence demonstrating otherwise?

Plenty

I can't find this quote anywhere in here.

Self-belief

Doesn't settle disputes

Better keep on reading then. ’Cause even both young Marx & Conservative Marx wrote extensively on lawmakers, law enforcement, and courts. Not that I approve of his ideas, I honestly doubt you read even both eras of Marx to be unaware of why laws exist.

Self-belief

Thank you for acknowledging it was your uneducated opinion, and not something I have yet to peer review. Altruism even exists among insects.

both young Marx & Conservative Marx wrote extensively on lawmakers, law enforcement, and courts

Not in a way that aligns with your beliefs.

Thank you for acknowledging it was your uneducated opinion

If you use words, it helps for you to know what they mean.

Altruism even exists among insects.

Altruism isn't conflict resolution.

Altruism isn’t conflict resolution.

Actually, what do you know about this? I’d be delighted to learn what you earnestly believe this is, and how to achieve this.

Ah, so this is the first reply from that "moth" character. Arrogant, self-absorbed, doing whatever he pleases, acting like everyone else is beneath him, and always putting on that preachy little act. He's just a complete lowlife. Or, more accurately - a clown. Truly, a legend in his own mind. 🤣👉🤡👈🤣

I find most of the anarchists difficult to engage with.

I was the same in my early 20s.

I think there's a saying, the more you learn the less you know. Or sonething.

I certainly feel like I know less now than I felt I did in my 20s.

What do you mean? Do you mean he’s an anarchist?

No wonder—anarchists aren’t very intelligent, because anyone with normal intelligence can see that it doesn’t work.

Their instance is anarchist.nexus

Oh, okay, thank you — I see it now. I hadn’t noticed it before.