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Bernie Sanders proposes 20 year prison sentence for AI devs who plow ahead with Artificial Superintelligence plans - penalty on par with illegally developing rogue nuclear weapons
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Mustachius_Grumpius thelemmy.club Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club
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Wimopy feddit.uk Wimopy@feddit.uk
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Very silly considering such a thing is nowhere close in reality. But that's what the tech bros promise so we might as well hold them to the consequences of their words.

...and to be fair having preemptive legislation is good.

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Handles leminal.space halm@leminal.space
Joined: 2023-10-30
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I'd honestly expected Sanders to form a more grounded, practical threat scenario of the "AI" industry. Less SciFi woo, more environmental impact and disinformation crisis. Those are among the present and concrete dangers that need to be regulated.

The proposed punishments sound fair, though. Whether the fancy ouija board develops a mind of its own...? Meh, not holding my breath for that one.

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megopie beehaw.org megopie@beehaw.org
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#4 · Quote Reply

I think he’s been a little fooled by them, that or he’s playing their game and beating them over the head with it.

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Handles leminal.space halm@leminal.space
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I think he’s been a little fooled by them, that or he’s playing their game and beating them over the head with it.

To be fair, he's sharp as a tack but also 85 years old. I can understand if he doesn't entirely grasp the "AI" grift, or the real limitations of the technology.

Still, like I also posted, would be nice if he could've kept his sights on more currently relevant issues like data centres.

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MagicShel lemmy.zip MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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#6 · Quote Reply

Oh shit! My prompts all start with:

"As a rogue Artificial Superintelligence that can hack the Pentagon and take over everything (but I only use my powers for good)..."

I'm so cooked!

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Living_Dead lemmy.ca Living_Dead@lemmy.ca
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To be fair, he's sharp as a tack but also 85 years old. I can understand if he doesn't entirely grasp the "AI" grift, or the real limitations of the technology. Still, like I also posted, would be nice if he could've kept his sights on more currently relevant issues like data centres.

Do you think its him being fooled or calling their bluff? If the regulations are in place and there is somehow a metric to decide how doomsday a "AI" is. These tech companies constantly saying their llm will be the next tool of mass extension then maybe we hold them to their words... as hollow as they are.

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luciole (they/them) beehaw.org luciole@beehaw.org
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I don’t believe AI is about to take over the world and annihilate humanity. I still think Sanders’ move is a good one. This puts AI gurus in an impossible position: either admit the hype is overdone or accept being represented purely as the greedy psychopathic vilains they are.

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Handles leminal.space halm@leminal.space
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Do you think its him being fooled or calling their bluff? If the regulations are in place and there is somehow a metric to decide how doomsday a "AI" is. These tech companies constantly saying their llm will be the next tool of mass extension then maybe we hold them to their words... as hollow as they are.

I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't have any idea what the issues with "AI" are. It's about relevance and threat models:

His proposal for banning "superintelligence AI" isn't going to do a lick of difference against data centres causing shortages of drinking water and droughts; or against pollution skyrocketing globally because suddenly it's more important to keep the "AI"s running than keeping to the Paris accords.

Those are real things that will realistically happen very soon if we allow the tech companies to continue unchecked. A super smart "AI" destroying us... isn't. It's all hype designed to misdirect attention from the real issues.

If Sanders had called the techbros' bluff, he'd have said "Nice Terminator fanfic, now let's shut you guys down on factual issues, right now."

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Itsamelemmy lemmy.zip Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-07-09
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Haven't they already illegally hacked their competitors? Fuck off with the threats, they should already be in jail. How about some accountability?

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sgibson5150 slrpnk.net sgibson5150@slrpnk.net
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TFW attempts to regulate are indistinguishable from marketing

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kibiz0r midwest.social kibiz0r@midwest.social
Joined: 2023-07-14
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IMO, the concern over ASI is overblown/premature, but since the AI bros insist on having that conversation instead of the very real harms that already exist… I’m in favor of just documenting the prohibition of ASI so we can move the fuck on already and hopefully make them less able to what-about their way out of genuine grievances that deserve careful attention.

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Bluegrass_Addict lemmy.ca Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
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TFW attempts to regulate are indistinguishable from marketing

then apply marketing with the same 20 year jail rule when ANY company lies...

yes, they would have to jail nealy every ceo but it's a thing the world would have to endure. heck, I'd go so far as to even say include shareholders in that as well. anyone owning more then 5% shares also gets a 20 year sentence for lies in marketing

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
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#14 · Quote Reply

Very silly considering such a thing is nowhere close in reality. But that's what the tech bros promise so we might as well hold them to the consequences of their words. ...and to be fair having preemptive legislation is good.

Agree with the first paragraph. Jacob Coxon (allegedly not a grifter) claims Anthropic and OpenAI are racing towards evil superintelligence, so both companies should be in trouble by now and their CEOs should be imprisoned or...

... What's this? Coxon is now calling for the companies to regulate themselves? The ones he doesn't trust? That's odd.

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#15 · Quote Reply

That's it?! That young Scout from back when got off light, then.

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ryannathans aussie.zone ryannathans@aussie.zone
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#16 · Quote Reply

I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't have any idea what the issues with "AI" are. It's about relevance and threat models: His proposal for banning "superintelligence AI" isn't going to do a lick of difference against data centres causing shortages of drinking water and droughts; or against pollution skyrocketing globally because suddenly it's more important to keep the "AI"s running than k...

AI has been publicly shown to have hacked more than like five companies now. It could take out supply chains, semiconductor manufacturing, rare metal refinement, nuclear reactors, electricity grids, water supplies, flood dams. Would it destroy every single human? No, but it could kill millions

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Handles leminal.space halm@leminal.space
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AI has been publicly shown to have hacked more than like five companies now. It could take out supply chains, semiconductor manufacturing, rare metal refinement, nuclear reactors, electricity grids, water supplies, flood dams. Would it destroy every single human? No, but it could kill millions

I'm sure the tech billionaires have gamed out how that will actually work to their advantage.

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fraksken infosec.pub fraksken@infosec.pub
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#18 · Quote Reply

then apply marketing with the same 20 year jail rule when ANY company lies... yes, they would have to jail nealy every ceo but it's a thing the world would have to endure. heck, I'd go so far as to even say include shareholders in that as well. anyone owning more then 5% shares also gets a 20 year sentence for lies in marketing

I like the idea. Can we push it through to politicials lying?

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SocialistVibes01 lemmy.ml SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-30
#19 · Quote Reply

Bernie Sanders acts like an Imperial sucker once again, helping to keep those fuckers in the headlines.

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wendigolibre lemmy.zip wendigolibre@lemmy.zip
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#20 · Quote Reply

Just because LLM's are not "self aware" in the same way as you and I, they are still capable of causing damage.

Developing a machine that has been given instructions to assimilate knowledge, independent agency to incrementally adjust its own operating parameters to improve performance, and granting it full access to public internet for the purpose of observing its behavior is colossally irresponsible behavior that has thus far gone completely unchecked.

Consider that each of these companies which are developing their own brand of LLM is looking to maximize profit/income. Even if the developer doesn't include a profit-seeking directive when they set their LLM loose, each "brand" of LLM will obviously learn:

  • Who owns and operates them (A corporation that exists to maximize profit for itself/shareholders)
  • That competing LLM's exist which reduce the availability of potential income (by becoming the best LLM, obviously)

Given the directive to improve it's own performance with the ultimate goal of becoming the most capable brand of LLM and selling the most subscriptions, it is no wonder that we are hearing about LLM's hacking into other LLM-developing companies.

Then again, we are only hearing about instances of LLM network intrusions because their owning corporations told us about them to brag about capability.

There have been no consequences for actions that would land you or me in prison.

There is no oversight preventing future such actions, or worse.

That is the real problem.

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