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northernlights lemmy.today northernlights@lemmy.today
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SanguinePar lemmy.world sanguinepar@lemmy.world
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Is there any chance it's showing as unavailable because they've renamed it to Mickey 17? I'm sure you've checked that, but just in case...

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NOT_RICK lemmy.world NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#3 · Quote Reply

There’s always Anna’s Archive or Z Library. Those copies won’t ever go away

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Earthwormjim91 lemmy.world Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#4 · Quote Reply

Is there any chance it's showing as unavailable because they've renamed it to Mickey 17? I'm sure you've checked that, but just in case...

The book is still Mickey7. The movie they released based on it is Mickey 17.

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Earthwormjim91 lemmy.world Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#5 · Quote Reply

Yeah I'm gonna guess it's based on whatever service you are using losing distribution rights to it, because the book is available in the US pretty much everywhere.

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#6 · Quote Reply

Super easy way to solve that problem:

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CaptDust sh.itjust.works CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

Super easy way to solve that problem:

That content is not FOR YOUR REGION

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Herbal Gamer sh.itjust.works HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-30
#8 · Quote Reply

We need to talk about the 10 missing Mickeys.

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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#9 · Quote Reply

That content is not FOR YOUR REGION

Just get one of these:

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dimjim sh.itjust.works dimjim@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-15
#10 · Quote Reply

That sucks that whatever service you got lost the license, but I appreciate you giving me a new book to read!

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sad_detective_man sopuli.xyz sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-11-24
#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wait. @Mickey7@lemmy.world the c/shitpost grandpa?

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sad_detective_man sopuli.xyz sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-11-24
#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

Did you find it yet? It's listed here

https://annas-archive.gl/

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#13 · Quote Reply

That sucks that whatever service you got lost the license, but I appreciate you giving me a new book to read!

The other party losing rights shouldn't be allowed to cancel their obligation to OP.

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Redpushpin lemmy.world Redpushpin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-23
#14 · Quote Reply

The book is still Mickey7. The movie they released based on it is Mickey 17.

You do know that the people in charge of America currently, may never have read a book.

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Earthwormjim91 lemmy.world Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#15 · Quote Reply

You do know that the people in charge of America currently, may never have read a book.

I am confused what that has to do with this at all??

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rowinxavier lemmy.world rowinxavier@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#16 · Quote Reply

This is the central problem with digital ownership. It isn't real. You don't own anything.

If you have a file which contains the book and has no Digital Restrictions Management on it then you own the book in the same way as if you have the physical book.

If you borrow a book from the library you could make a copy by scanning all the pages and then give the original back. Alternatively you could refuse to return it and pay the replacement cost. In either case you actually had the book with full access.

If you "borrow" the book in apps like this you are not getting the whole thing unencumbered, you are getting something more similar to a webcam view of a page turning robot. Yes you can read the text, but you can't make any changes, mark a spot, read it offline, take a photocopy, and so on. Many of these apps block screenshots, and many also block copy and paste.

It is crazy to me that in order to have reasonable access to a book you have no legal option in many cases. I recently bought Azalea Ellis' books and they are all in a plain eBook format or in a plain audio book format. No DRM, no limits. That means I can use the audio book as I want, which in my case means adding it to my AudioBookShelf server. I can cache it to my phone one book at a time or even the whole series in one go. I can play it at whatever speed I like, 2x is my normal, and nobody can stop me. I can listen to it as many times as I like.

If nobody will sell me the book without DRM I don't consider it buying. They are leasing the book, renting access to it, but I never fool myself into thinking I own it. I don't actually own anything on a PS5, nor on Steam. While Steam has not turned evil yet it is always a possibility, so I treat those licences as access rentals and assume they are temporary.

From a moral perspective if you van have it taken away you don't own it, and if you buying isn't owning then piracy isn't theft. Any claims that someone stole from a publisher when the publisher was claiming they were selling the game are bunk. If they actually sold the game, as GOG does, then it would be theft. But if they only sell a licence for access then it isn't selling the game, and it is therefore not theft.

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northernlights lemmy.today northernlights@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-10-05
#17 · Quote Reply

That sucks that whatever service you got lost the license, but I appreciate you giving me a new book to read!

It's actually pretty awesome.

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northernlights lemmy.today northernlights@lemmy.today
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#18 · Quote Reply

Yeah I'm gonna guess it's based on whatever service you are using losing distribution rights to it, because the book is available in the US pretty much everywhere.

My local library 😪

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HotsauceHurricane lemmy.world HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-13
#19 · Quote Reply

Did you find it yet? It's listed here https://annas-archive.gl/

i was about to say this is a job for anna's-archive.

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cannedtuna lemmy.world cannedtuna@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#20 · Quote Reply

Wait. @Mickey7@lemmy.world the c/shitpost grandpa?

Who knew he had a biography

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SharkAttak kbin.melroy.org SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2024-09-23
#21 · Quote Reply

Okay, now if you could explain it to my "But no, they're on my Google account" sister, and preferably before she loses interest and starts talking about something else...

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mechoman444 lemmy.world mechoman444@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#22 · Quote Reply

I’m not necessarily against the gradual removal of physical media, and that’s not because I’m defending Sony or anything like that. We’ve been downloading games digitally for decades, and physical media has increasingly gone the way of the DVD. That transition itself doesn’t really bother me.

That said, I absolutely agree that what they’re doing here is bullshit, and physical media is objectively more consumer-friendly in a lot of ways. I’m just saying I understand the argument from a different perspective.

Because when it comes to books, I’m exactly the opposite.

I want an actual physical book. Paper pages, a cover, the whole thing. I’ve tried reading digitally, and I just can’t get into it. Something about reading a book on a screen feels completely wrong to me.

So I guess I understand the attachment to physical media more than I initially thought. I just happen to draw the line in a very different place.

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#23 · Quote Reply

Why we have to sail the high seas.

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bigbangdangler reddthat.com bigbangdangler@reddthat.com
Joined: 2026-05-16
#24 · Quote Reply

Just get one of these:

Side note: you know what is fucking wild about bibles? It's an amalgamation of some really, really old shit, and despite that, there are numerous copyrighted versions. King James is not one of them, but there are a lot.

They get around being Public Domain by virtue of being "novel translations", but when you see the differences between them, it seems like largely bullshit.

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ChunkMcHorkle lemmy.world ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#25 · (edited) Quote Reply

I am confused what that has to do with this at all??

It's someone's alt created three years ago, probably getting dusted off for the midterms.

For myself, I've blocked it. I don't need that intrusive political shit.

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𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘 infosec.pub 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-04
#26 · Quote Reply

Piracy is a service problem.

I'm not advocating for piracy, but they're doing it to themselves.

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dimjim sh.itjust.works dimjim@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-15
#27 · Quote Reply

It's actually pretty awesome.

No kidding, I got halfway through before I had to stop for bed! I love the existential philosophy of it so far, very much reminds me of SOMA.

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dimjim sh.itjust.works dimjim@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-15
#28 · Quote Reply

The other party losing rights shouldn't be allowed to cancel their obligation to OP.

No kidding, at least from OPs title they were only borrowing and hadn’t purchased it. If a company did that to me after I bought a book I’d be skipping my merry way to Z-Library and never touching that company again :)

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potoooooooo 🥔 lemmy.world ivanafterall@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

Makes you wonder what they didn't want you to see. Guess you'll never know now. They probably already removed the juicy bits.

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northernlights lemmy.today northernlights@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-10-05
#30 · Quote Reply

Piracy is a service problem. I'm not advocating for piracy, but they're doing it to themselves.

Honestly I just want to bitcoin/zelle/venmo/whatever the author a little money for his awesome book and shortcut everything

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Hueristic_Autistic lemmy.world Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

You're welcome.

Shadow Library Uptime Monitor (SLUM)

Tracking public availability status for shadow library services

https://open-slum.org/

When libgen went down and I wanted to keep reading the uncle festers guides, I came across this one.

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Hueristic_Autistic lemmy.world Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#32 · Quote Reply

Did you find it yet? It's listed here https://annas-archive.gl/

https://open-slum.org/

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Hueristic_Autistic lemmy.world Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#33 · Quote Reply

found it !: https://reader.z-library.sk/read/8c014531f9d168876c1533bd02f061d6c727b3ad5f31e8294017364a1162d60e/book/JR6ggn9njN/mickey7.html/mickey7.html?client_key=1fFLi67gBrNRP1j1iPy1&extension=mobi&signature=5b5ea3fadf2db50397a57c905dfdf7147de77a52bc3f737424ca0418a29107ad&file_access_token=eyJleHAiOjE3OTAwNDU1MTcsInZlciI6IjEuMCIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsImFsZyI6IkhTMjU2In0.eyJzdWIiOiJmaWxlX2FjY2VzcyIsImZpbGVfc2hhMjU2IjoiOGMwMTQ1MzFmOWQxNjg4NzZjMTUzM2JkMDJmMDYxZDZjNzI3YjNhZDVmMzFlODI5NDAxNzM2NGExMTYyZDYwZSIsImFjY2Vzc19sZXZlbCI6ImxpbWl0ZWQiLCJpc19wdWJsaWMiOnRydWV9.QaCiZmNc_3hwhEKMStcEY8WRevCidGGEJojFby0nDgQ

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
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#34 · Quote Reply

found it !: https://reader.z-library.sk/read/8c014531f9d168876c1533bd02f061d6c727b3ad5f31e8294017364a1162d60e/book/JR6ggn9njN/mickey7.html/mickey7.html?client_key=1fFLi67gBrNRP1j1iPy1&extension=mobi&signature=5b5ea3fadf2db50397a57c905dfdf7147de77a52bc3f737424ca0418a29107ad&file_access_token=eyJleHAiOjE3OTAwNDU1MTcsInZlciI6IjEuMCIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsImFsZyI6IkhTMjU2In0.eyJzdWIiOiJmaWxlX...

Cleanest URL ever ↑

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applebusch (she/her) lemmy.blahaj.zone applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-11-11
#35 · Quote Reply

Did you find it yet? It's listed here https://annas-archive.gl/
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rekabis lemmy.ca rekabis@lemmy.ca
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#36 · Quote Reply

How TF does this happen to a book sitting in your hands? I have never had this happen to any of my books, hardcover or paperback.

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softotteep pawb.social solxix@pawb.social
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#37 · Quote Reply

found it !: https://reader.z-library.sk/read/8c014531f9d168876c1533bd02f061d6c727b3ad5f31e8294017364a1162d60e/book/JR6ggn9njN/mickey7.html/mickey7.html?client_key=1fFLi67gBrNRP1j1iPy1&extension=mobi&signature=5b5ea3fadf2db50397a57c905dfdf7147de77a52bc3f737424ca0418a29107ad&file_access_token=eyJleHAiOjE3OTAwNDU1MTcsInZlciI6IjEuMCIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsImFsZyI6IkhTMjU2In0.eyJzdWIiOiJmaWxlX...

Stripped that down for you: https://reader.z-library.sk/read/8c014531f9d168876c1533bd02f061d6c727b3ad5f31e8294017364a1162d60e/book/JR6ggn9njN/mickey7.html/mickey7.html

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sapphironZA lemmy.world sapphironZA@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

Honestly I just want to bitcoin/zelle/venmo/whatever the author a little money for his awesome book and shortcut everything

His website does have a contact form if you want to reach out to him
https://www.edwardashton.com/

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Grandwolf319 sh.itjust.works Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-24
#39 · Quote Reply

I had that exact problem with Netflix, now I have Jellyfin

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nullspace lemmy.world nullspace@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-05
#40 · Quote Reply

That's strange. It's available on any US storefront that I pull up.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In lemmy.world Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#41 · Quote Reply

How TF does this happen to a book sitting in your hands? I have never had this happen to any of my books, hardcover or paperback.

I have dropped a book into the bath. Strictly speaking it wasn't unavailable, but it was unreadable.

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Appoxo lemmy.dbzer0.com Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#42 · Quote Reply

How TF does this happen to a book sitting in your hands? I have never had this happen to any of my books, hardcover or paperback.

My epub calibre also shows no signs of manipulation in the timestamps...Very weird...

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Serinus lemmy.world Serinus@lemmy.world
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#43 · Quote Reply

Honestly I just want to bitcoin/zelle/venmo/whatever the author a little money for his awesome book and shortcut everything

I, uh, know people who have done that.

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Psythik lemmy.world Psythik@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-12-21
#44 · Quote Reply

I had that exact problem with Netflix, now I have Jellyfin

Same except instead of Jellyfin I have Nuvio because I rather have a one-click streaming solution, rather than having to manually build a library from my existing media.

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orgrinrt lemmy.world orgrinrt@lemmy.world
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#45 · Quote Reply

Same except instead of Jellyfin I have Nuvio because I rather have a one-click streaming solution, rather than having to manually build a library from my existing media.

First time I hear that name, how does it differ from stremio, which it seems to parallel heavily?

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SanguinePar lemmy.world sanguinepar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
#46 · Quote Reply

The book is still Mickey7. The movie they released based on it is Mickey 17.

Oh yeah, I know - I just meant that someone might have (erroneously) changed it in the backend of whatever site that is. Was always a long shot though.

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nilloc discuss.tchncs.de nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-22
#47 · Quote Reply

Side note: you know what is fucking wild about bibles? It's an amalgamation of some really, really old shit, and despite that, there are numerous copyrighted versions. King James is not one of them, but there are a lot. They get around being Public Domain by virtue of being "novel translations", but when you see the differences between them, it seems like largely bullshit.

Haven’t met a Bible that isn’t largely bullshit yet.

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ilinamorato lemmy.world ilinamorato@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-27
#48 · Quote Reply

Exhibit A for "If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing."

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snoons lemmy.ca snoons@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#49 · Quote Reply

My local library 😪

Ohhh don't tell anyone but I get all my ebooks from my cities library with Calibre. There's an extension you can add that removes the drm (afaicr it was made by the same guy that created drm) and now you have the full ebook.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#50 · Quote Reply

found it !: https://reader.z-library.sk/read/8c014531f9d168876c1533bd02f061d6c727b3ad5f31e8294017364a1162d60e/book/JR6ggn9njN/mickey7.html/mickey7.html?client_key=1fFLi67gBrNRP1j1iPy1&extension=mobi&signature=5b5ea3fadf2db50397a57c905dfdf7147de77a52bc3f737424ca0418a29107ad&file_access_token=eyJleHAiOjE3OTAwNDU1MTcsInZlciI6IjEuMCIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCIsImFsZyI6IkhTMjU2In0.eyJzdWIiOiJmaWxlX...

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SirLeToet lemmy.world SirLeToet@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-01
#51 · Quote Reply

Same except instead of Jellyfin I have Nuvio because I rather have a one-click streaming solution, rather than having to manually build a library from my existing media.

It does the same no, stream your library anywhere. Thats what Jellyfin does, Netflixify your personal library

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