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nous
programming.dev
nous@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-17 |
It being limited to one person address is a problem when you have a family though. Only single people are allowed to own this thing I guess. Can't have gamer roommates. I get it but it'll be years before I can buy this thing or the stream machine mostly likely and it's for a variety of reasons. My husband actually put in for the lottery for the steam machine and didn't get picked. I have no ide...
Yes it is a problem. But a temporary one that IMO is worth the tradeoff. You might not get multiple devices up front but that means other people can have a device at all. Why should you get 3-5 devices and stop 3-5 other people from having one at all? You can share a single device for several months while the initial wave die down and stock is able to be replenished. Then they will remove the restrictions and you can get multiple devices. In the meantime it means more people can get a device and helps to stop scalpers from getting them all. It is a tradeoff, ideally it would be better if there was enough devices for everyone that wants one to get one. But you can only scale production up so fast. |
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SeventySeven
sh.itjust.works
SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-28 |
I believe in your waiting ability It’s very nice, basically the decks extra functionality on a gamepad. Gut feeling tells me once the initial wave of frames are out the back order of controllers will get going (my source is it came to me in a dream delusion)
That's all I could ever ask or hope for, and now you have me hyped about it even more lol but thank you for believing in my patience! Don't worry I will hopefully get the purchase email much sooner than 2027 (damn oh wait, that also came to me in a dream/delusion 😢) |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Yes it is a problem. But a temporary one that IMO is worth the tradeoff. You might not get multiple devices up front but that means other people can have a device at all. Why should you get 3-5 devices and stop 3-5 other people from having one at all? You can share a single device for several months while the initial wave die down and stock is able to be replenished. Then they will remove the r...
I think you misunderstood what I'm saying here, somehow still. Once you put in once and do not get something and do not get picked, there is no avenue to put in a second time without possibly getting that account flagged. You run the risk of losing an account in good standing over this. The second problem is, why is it that someone who happens to live in the same house as anyone else is less important and should have less of a chance to get it than someone else? That's why the roommate thing is an important distinction. Just because you live alone or with other people who are not interested in the product, that means your chance of getting it trumps someone else who lives in a different living arrangement and lives with someone else who also wants one? That's bad logic predicated not on factual information but on an emotional response to the scalper problem and I'm not here for it. It does not change anything because either way, two different people want a product and could potentially get a product except the way the lottery is set up, there's a chance of penalizing someone who's not doing anything wrong and invalidating their chance. Simply because of where they happen to live. And your argument is that this is okay because the other people who have the chance don't live together. That's not a criteria that should determine who's chance is more worthy. Logically that's just emotional nonsense dressed up as ok. |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Roomates or family are members of a household. One unit per address. I don't see why relations would matter.
I've had many a roommate in my life. I've never shared a computer with a roommate. Family computer with my family? Yeah. Roommate. No. Roommates are essentially two completely autonomous people who happen to live together. That's the distinction. |
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DudleyMason
lemmy.ml
DudleyMason@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-03-19 |
I mean, ok I guess. But have you considered how much better a world could be created by making scalping a capital offense? |
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steelplatedmech
piefed.ca
steelplatedmech@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-07-22 |
I've had many a roommate in my life. I've never shared a computer with a roommate. Family computer with my family? Yeah. Roommate. No. Roommates are essentially two completely autonomous people who happen to live together. That's the distinction.
Why would a company care about the distinction. All they care about is limiting it by household. |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Why would a company care about the distinction. All they care about is limiting it by household.
This is a person making this distinction for a company in order to justify why they think this is fair. I never said the company thought it was fair. It's pretty obvious that the company is fine with penalizing their customers/treating them like scalpers in order to prevent what they consider anti-social behavior. That doesn't mean we can't be irritated about it. |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
I'm so fucking glad I didn't update my address after moving recently so my wife and I don't have the same address. I'm asking every friend that doesn't want one to line for me. I still think the demand will outpace supply so much it won't even matter.
How do you do that, I don't see an address anywhere on my account. Is it if you have added a payment method to the account? |
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steelplatedmech
piefed.ca
steelplatedmech@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-07-22 |
This is a person making this distinction for a company in order to justify why they think this is fair. I never said the company thought it was fair. It's pretty obvious that the company is fine with penalizing their customers/treating them like scalpers in order to prevent what they consider anti-social behavior. That doesn't mean we can't be irritated about it.
Its either one address limitation or none at all, since a company isn't going to make exceptions based on whether someone is related or not and verify it. |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Its either one address limitation or none at all, since a company isn't going to make exceptions based on whether someone is related or not and verify it.
Arguing an emotion based opinion of a policy to someone pointing out the flaws in the policy isn't going to win you this argument. I understand that you feel that this is a non-issue, and perhaps for you it is. But that doesn't mean that it is a fair policy across the board. It just means that you have justified the policy to yourself. |
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
How do you do that, I don't see an address anywhere on my account. Is it if you have added a payment method to the account?
The one for the payment method and shipping (steam link, deck and controllers over there years) |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
The one for the payment method and shipping (steam link, deck and controllers over there years)
So if I've never purchased a physical item then presumably they'll apply the filter on purchase attempt too. If you try to place an order for a frame and another one was placed with the same shipping address then they'll probably reject it. |
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spirinolas
lemmy.world
spirinolas@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
FYI read the small print: they'll remove entries with the same address, so if you live with other people don't all join the queue or you'll silently disqualify yourselves.
Just put one of your vacation homes! Duuuuuh /s |
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
So if I've never purchased a physical item then presumably they'll apply the filter on purchase attempt too. If you try to place an order for a frame and another one was placed with the same shipping address then they'll probably reject it.
Not sure were you're going with this, this address will receive at most one, so wheter they do that or not won't affect me. |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Not sure were you're going with this, this address will receive at most one, so wheter they do that or not won't affect me.
I was mostly asking for myself. I used to live with someone who is also joining the queue and trying to figure out if there's anything I need to do if I want to avoid a false positive for the "one household" test. It sounds like there is nothing I need to do. I asked you originally since you had an address to update while I didn't. |
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
I was mostly asking for myself. I used to live with someone who is also joining the queue and trying to figure out if there's anything I need to do if I want to avoid a false positive for the "one household" test. It sounds like there is nothing I need to do. I asked you originally since you had an address to update while I didn't.
Sorry, I was a bit defensive. I misunderstood your intention. I don't know how they will do with the addresses, but maybe there are post offices or such were you could collect it? Good luck tomorrow :) |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Sorry, I was a bit defensive. I misunderstood your intention. I don't know how they will do with the addresses, but maybe there are post offices or such were you could collect it? Good luck tomorrow :)
No problem, it wasnt super clear. Both of us live at different addresses now so it shoudn't be a problem at the purchasing end, but I might do the post office thing so it's not just sitting outside for anyone to take while I'm at work. Good luck to you too |
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SatyrSack
quokk.au
SatyrSack@quokk.auJoined: 2025-08-25 |
I mean, ok I guess. But have you considered how much better a world could be created by making scalping a capital offense?
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cloudshouter
lemmy.zip
cloudshouter@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-01 |
Not Steam, but does anyone else remember the music artist that got pissed at scalpers and just kept selling tickets and adding shows at a venue until the scalpers gave up? |
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