Link: https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-blackout-had-no-significant-change-at-all-analyst-says/

https://archive.is/JitQJ

Do it again.

Keep doing it until they feel it and know! A one time blackout isn't enough, there needs to be consistency.

Of course not. It's all about voting with your wallet. It needs to hurt their bottom line.

Fuck a blackout. Seed :blobcat_pirate:

As with many things, its a vocal minority amplified by the internet. Everyone is mad when you're on the enthusiast websites, but most people with playstations etc dont go on the enthusiast website and just keep doing their thing.

Right? What's stupid idea. Just as stupid as the reddit temporary blackout with third party apps. Should Have just closed out all of their accounts and subs.

Most people just don't care and the tiny majority that does will just be ignored by Sony. Who cares about a tiny fraction of customers protesting when demand is so high that the PS5 Pros are out of stock everywhere https://www.tomsguide.com/gaming/playstation/ps5-pro-restocks-latest-updates

exactly!

if you want to bitch about it, sell your Sony gear. get out of the shitty ecosystem. never look back.

fuck Sony.

This boycot action didn’t make sense even in the beginning.

Dauphong is a goat. IYKYK.

They announced the end. Everyone is back at playing Playstation as if nothing happened. Well off course not everyone, but the majority.

I wouldn't sell your gear, put it in a closet, or continue using it without purchasing any more in their ecosystem. But if you sell your gear, you're going to enable someone else who is willing to purchase into the ecosystem. Where if you just closet it or only play with what you have, then they won't gain anything else from it.

The article says that there's not enough people mad about it to hurt their bottom line. You're basically proposing to continue doing something that had 0 effect so far.

Sure it did! It had a marvelous impact! I have never painted so many minis, never spent more time with the dog, and finally got around to buying elden ring on PC, thanks to the Sony boycott making me remember to spite Sony. The ps5 sits unplugged on a shelf and was going to get hooked up to the TV but then....all these things started happening and I kinda thought "nah fuckem I can wait till they stop hammering their dicks with a hammer" and they just kept at it so I've been off PS for the past...2 months? 3?

The blackout and wanting to show solidarity with an issue was the final real push for me. Fuck em.

Gamers might be the most pushover demographic of all. First they act so angry and threatening, and then they still buy all the consoles and games anyway, no matter the cost. You can do anything with gamers and the companies know.

Dont use playstation, but I want to get a PS2 so I can play this old game, metropolismania. I want it so bad. Dont want to fuck with emulators on the PC. I want a PS2 I can plug into the 2010 TV with the little yellow and red plugs. Turn to channel 3. xD

There is so much content if you work backwards. Im def getting old, but all this tech over reach has me reaching for simplier days as of late.

They will need to completely get out from the PlayStation echo system for that to work.

Composite video used the input channel, RF/coax was the one that made you turn to channel 3 :P

For what it's worthy, PS2 emulation on PC is in an awesome spot right now. Lots of handhelds that do it well now too! Honestly it's less hassle than getting composite video working on a newer tv, so definitely keep that 2010 set working while you can.

I think gaming enthusiasts often forget that they are the vast, vast minority of people using any given platform.

Having worked adjacent to the gaming press for a while now I really get the feeling that people playing single player, story driven, or otherwise "traditional" video games truly believe they're the majority of the market. They are not. A huge percentage of the PlayStation user base either doesn't know or doesn't care about Sony's latest anti-consumer policy (of which there are many). Even if every person who plays and enjoys traditional games and/or cares about preservation/ownership boycotts Sony tomorrow it'll barely move the needle.

Until the GTA online players, the fortnite players, the roblox players, the latest Call of Duty live service players, Genshin Impact players, etc... care it's not going to make any sort of a dent.

Of course it didn't. I don't think some people understand how completely irrelevant the individual is when it comes to corporate decision making. They don't care if you're upset. They're either going to do something extreme, then dial it back (on purpose) to something worse but not as bad, or they're going to ignore you. If they keep at it long enough, newer generations just grow up thinking this is all normal.

Look at DLC. Younger people on here probably think that's normal or good. But older people can remember a time where when a game was released, it was expected to run out the box or you'd immediately refund it because they sold you a broken product. And the game was whole, not locked behind paywalls. Even when PC games got DLC, The Sims still looked absolutely crazy for the sheer cost of all those expansions. To probably well over half of the users here, though, this is the new normal.

My best advice is to support and enjoy indie games that do things right (and can probably run on your PC without costing you a fortune), or start learning to enjoy older games (there's tons of great ones out there!), most of which can be found easily and played on just about any modern computer. SNES, Sega Genesis, Gamecube, PS2, 3DS, etc. There's so many good games out there.

And of course, don't be afraid to find other hobbies. If you really want to make a difference, stop giving any money to these corporations. Video games aren't a necessity. You can choose not to support Sony gaming, simple as that. Not temporarily, but until their business practices change whennever.

I can't spend the crazy amount of money it would take to build a new tower right now. I have a 5070 laptop, that'll have to do I guess. I'll delete Sony accounts.

I used to want a PS5, what would have been my first PlayStation, but I changed my mind and am sticking with PC. They never saw my money so they don't know it's missing. This is why "voting with your wallet" is more nuanced than just "don't buy Sony things."

People who buy Sony things need to stop buying Sony things. Money the company is taking for granted needs to dry up. Boycotts only work if the in crowd becomes the out crowd.

Who needs enemies with friends like these, right.

I have four nephews.

95% of their playtime is like 4 games. Minecraft, Madden, Fortnite, and whatever the most popular multiplaying FPS is (this changes every year or two). Throw in a few more uber popular ones like Mario Kart, Terraria, Stardew, Elden Ring etc. and that's the other 5%

They rarely play anything else and they think I'm brain damaged because all my games... are not any of those. My games are 'weird' to them. If it hasn't sold 10-20+ million , they don't know what it is.

no way 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yea the reason sony is doing this now is because it's the dead zone of this generation cycle. Console sales are falling, people are cancelling PS Plus subscriptions, and they're taking the hits deliberately now so it's ancient history by the time they announce PS6.

Boycotting now means very little. There's already an natural boycott happening as people have lost interest in console gaming. It's just a reaction to being upset, rather than a real sacrifice targeted to inflict the pain necessary for Sony to consider changing.

If you actually give a shit, delete your sony account and move to pc.

There's a reason why Sony announced their digital-only platform around this time. People who bought a PS5 want to play games while not spending the money you'd need for a PC. Now with RAM, graphics cards and storage prices going to the clouds, even less people are able to build/buy a PC. Even if the PS6 costs 799€ (or something around that price range), it will be way cheaper than buying/building a PC, especially since the crisis won't stop in the near future.

People should have known sony was crap when they jumped the shark with the ps3. Even the ps2 was the beginning of the buy it online only days, but the ps3 was where they "required" an upgrade to continue to use their console and took away an ability that was promised when sold. Go back a little further and you have the rootkit fiasco.

People didn't learn then, and they probably won't now. Sony just marches forward and people keep buying their crap. Same as always.

At least in the EU PC market you won't find anything new near that price range. 32GB of DDR5 RAM, a 1TB SSD and an Arc B580 alone cost 900€, which is a bit more 1000 dollars. With CPU (7500f; AM5), mainboard, cooler, case and power supply, you'd end up at 1300€, which is 1500 dollars. You could save money by buying into AM4 since DDR4 is 200€ cheaper than DDR5, but do you really want to buy into an old platform?

I have a PS5 myself and to be honest, I'd like a PC. I haven't even played on the PS5 since a month or so because I don't have any games which I really want to play on there. I don't like the closed ecosystem, that's why I also despise the Apple ecosystem I was forced into. My laptop fortunately can handle emulation pretty good (even some Switch games), but it's still an iGPU (Arc 130t; there are iGPUs like the 8060s that have good performance, but those are also rather for Mini PCs).

I also think that it's hard for people to let go of their stuff. PS5 users probably rather pay 80-130€ a year for PS Plus than buying a PC because it makes the PS5 obsolete, mainly because of the closed ecosystem.

I agree.

However, gaming is an important hobby for me, and some games are exclusive for playstation.

But now, I usually just wait for sales (many AAA tittles nowadays don't worth first day purchases anyway).

Also, as you have mentioned, getting other hobbies is also a good idea, I am now running or hitting the gym everyday. Lossing weight become my new hobby now.

I think the problem there are some games that are exclusive for the console, or at least for a limited period of time.

I think portable consoles like Nintendo switch is the future.

Unfortunately, I agree with you.

Imo, I always think service games and mobile games are trash.
But I cannot deny that they have so many players base.

Sigh, that's why I start other hobbies(running, gym, reading etc.) because I think traditional gaming might be shrinking in the market in long run even tho I really love them.

Well, it's kind of crazy for a console requiring you to pay before using online features when I think about it.

It is a thing just has been normalized

Imo, I think it is still difficult for many people to build a PC even if you give them all the parts that they need

People haven't lost interest in gaming. The entire global economy has gone to crap. People dont have the disposable income they used to have, and food, gas, and utilities are more important to buy than video games.

Many people have moved to PC gaming because they already have a PC and Steam and GOG have very affordable games and vast libraries to choose from that isn't available on console, most of which are unlikely to have performance problems on their device. PC also has the most discount sale events for games, I am pretty sure.

If they could actually afford it, gaming spending would be higher, especially on walled garden consoles. Guaranteed.

Congratulations on getting a regular exercise routine down! Took me longer than it should have myself.

Others just quietly left like me with the last Sony console I got being the PS4.

Only consoles I'm interested in picking up are ones I can jailbreak.

Had so many arguments with console players who kept insisting PS+ games are free games and not rentals despite them ceasing to work without an active subscription. So seeing them flip out over disc ownership given their stance on PS+ games was a strange sight to behold. Paying for online subscription is ridiculous too, but they argued in favor of it when I'd call it out.

Lot of monetization practices they accepted after the PS3 led to the situation they find themselves in.

lol, it did check out lmao.

Well, I have a PC tho, I bought a pre build one. But I still find console more convenient.

I would have think myself went crazy one year ago, if I was hearing myself saying this. But look.....

I really think running is more interesting than gaming now.
I can just watch a video, relax, and run on a treadmill in the gym room. Or listen to some music while running outdoor.

They have stopped making optical drives because they are obsolete.
You could see it coming a few months ago when the disc version was being dumped off at only $50 more.

I said this over and over with the switch 2. Everyone i know who said they were boycotting folded the second a new zelda game got released or tomadachi life.

Also its kind of difficult to put a 250gb game on a disk. Id be very surprised if the disk held any info whatsoever nowadays past a license.

That's kinda my problem too. I don't play much, and I don't have a PS membership, so I went from not playing to... more not playing. But canceling the membership is really the only action with any teeth since it's a direct financial choice.

I after the no-disc announcement, saved the current PS5 software number for when it eventually gets jailbroken, unplugged it and it's been sitting in my colset ever since.
I've upgraded the GPU and RAM in my older PC, installed Bazzite, and now (about 4 weeks later) my PC gaming library has grown from 12 titles to like 80 for about €100. I pirated every other title I had on PS, that were too expensive.
I'm never going back to consoles again.

I've been a PS player for the last 10ish years, but recently migrated to PC and not planning to go back. So there's at least 1 costumer of theirs, who won't give them any more money after 10 years.

This is the only true boycott that matters. And its not just about the prices, but the freedom on PC.