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Greece won’t get Israeli source code for €3B Achilles Shield
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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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Greece agreed to a €3 billion air defense deal with Israel and they won't get the source code for the command-and-control system. So Greek engineers can't maintain or upgrade it on their own. they have to rely on Israel.

Greek defense minister Nikos Dendias said in July that becoming a "hostage" to even the friendliest ally is "absolutely impossible." But that's exactly what this looks like. Israel's Missile Defense Organization director Moshe Patel was asked if Greece gets the source code. He said: "No. Because the source code was not included in the license to use the agreement."

Israel's defense ministry later said Israeli know-how would go to Greek companies so they can develop a "Greek source code." But the original answer was no. And the system is still built on Israeli tech.

So Greece is paying €3 billion to a foreign supplier and can't fully control the thing. That's not sovereignty. That's dependency.

And this is a country that's supposed to be in the EU. Why is it buying weapons from Israel at all? Greece should not be giving money to Israel. I think giving money to Israel right now is wrong. The ICJ is looking at genocide charges. Greece shouldn't be funding this.

If you're European, you should ask why your union is okay with this. Why is a member state doing deals like this? Why isn't anyone stopping it? These money should go to european alternatives.

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Jaysyn lemmy.world Jaysyn@lemmy.world
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#2 · Quote Reply

Then you don't own it & that will be used against you if you do not kotow to Israel.

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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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#3 · Quote Reply

Then you don't own it & that will be used against you if you do not kotow to Israel.

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#4 · Quote Reply

Wow. Intellectual hostage.

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Mihies programming.dev Mihies@programming.dev
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#5 · Quote Reply

I see a lot of stupidity, bribes and enabling genocide.

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whaleross lemmy.world whaleross@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#6 · Quote Reply

I see a lot of stupidity, bribes and enabling genocide.

I looked up how Greece is on the corruption perceptions index nowadays. It's better than before but still not great at place 56 of 182.

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MrMakabar slrpnk.net MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-09
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Erdogan and Israel are nearly shooting at each other in Syria. Obviously Greece is thrilled about that. Add to that oil and gas fields in the Med, where Israel and Greece have joined forces to keep out the Turks and you have a pretty good idea why Greece likes Israel so much.

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Atelopus-zeteki fedia.io Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io
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#8 · Quote Reply

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Not for $3B. I pay that much and I'm gonna want the source code. smh

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ZkhqrD5o lemmy.world ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-17
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How the fuck is it allowed to have proprietary stuff in military applications? You need this stuff to work.

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rumimevlevi sh.itjust.works rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-07
#10 · Quote Reply

Erdogan and Israel are nearly shooting at each other in Syria. Obviously Greece is thrilled about that. Add to that oil and gas fields in the Med, where Israel and Greece have joined forces to keep out the Turks and you have a pretty good idea why Greece likes Israel so much.

Erodogan is a coward, he is letting Israel do whatever it want in Syria

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birdwing lemmy.blahaj.zone birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-08-19
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How the fuck is it allowed to have proprietary stuff in military applications? You need this stuff to work.

Credit where credit is due, if it's proprietary as in, military developed it itself, and they control that, I feel that's fair to safeguard.

But elsewhere..

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Molvorin feddit.dk Molvorin@feddit.dk
Joined: 2026-04-26
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I looked up how Greece is on the corruption perceptions index nowadays. It's better than before but still not great at place 56 of 182.

That site has usa at 29...

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whaleross lemmy.world whaleross@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
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That site has usa at 29...

The numbers are from last year survey. I'd expect this year be different.

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tirateimas lemmy.pt tirateimas@lemmy.pt
Joined: 2026-01-01
#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

I hope they learn the lesson, an expensive one to say the least. They essentially been ripped off.

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medem lemmy.wtf medem@lemmy.wtf
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How's this for a headline:

The Greek government wasted 3 billion in taxpayer money for a defense system they won't be able to use or further develop without 'Israeli' consent.

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CPMSP midwest.social CPMSP@midwest.social
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#16 · Quote Reply

Are you telling me with a name like "Achilles" no one expected a fatal flaw?

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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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#17 · Quote Reply

Are you telling me with a name like "Achilles" no one expected a fatal flaw?

Are you telling me with a name like “Achilles” no one expected a fatal flaw?

😀 you know better

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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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#18 · Quote Reply

How's this for a headline: The Greek government wasted 3 billion in taxpayer money for a defense system they won't be able to use or further develop without 'Israeli' consent.

Yeah. 💯 . They should prefer the European system over Israel! Each € contributes zionist crimes

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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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I hope they learn the lesson, an expensive one to say the least. They essentially been ripped off.

I hope they learn the lesson, an expensive one to say the least. They essentially been ripped off.

I hope. It is sad to see many european countries still rely on israel

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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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I see a lot of stupidity, bribes and enabling genocide.

Credit where credit is due, if it’s proprietary as in, military developed it itself, and they control that, I feel that’s fair to safeguard.

Each € contributes to Zionists' crimes.

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
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#21 · Quote Reply

Israel commits genocide.

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fruitycoder sh.itjust.works fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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#22 · Quote Reply

Is €3 billion rental agreement for "critical" things like this ever going to make sense? FOSS or bust for any critical where not owning is a hostage situation.

The idea of funding the active partipant of a genocide should make peoples skin crawl too

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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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#23 · Quote Reply

Is €3 billion rental agreement for "critical" things like this ever going to make sense? FOSS or bust for any critical where not owning is a hostage situation. The idea of funding the active partipant of a genocide should make peoples skin crawl too

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interesting sh.itjust.works interesting@sh.itjust.works
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#24 · Quote Reply

Israel commits genocide.

Interests seem to be more important than Genocide for some Greek politicians

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