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TIL During the Siege of Sarajevo, rich people paid to travel there and kill civilians
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chiliedogg lemmy.world chiliedogg@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#52 · Quote Reply

Oddly specific. Where and when DID you hunt people, then?

I've never simultaneously hunted multiple persons.

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bstix feddit.dk bstix@feddit.dk
Joined: 2023-06-09
#53 · Quote Reply

I remember writing an essay in school about the war while it was happening. This was pre-internet so our sources were newspapers. The reports from locals and refugees always mentioned the snipers as the worst thing. Civilians were shot down at random. It's impossible to tell if any particular shot was part of the war or just someone taking the opportunity to shoot down somebody they didn't like for whatever reason in the first place.
There was no real front line, where you could say that the war was fought. It was entire cities all over the country going crazy and just killing their neighbours.

I wouldn't be surprised about the human-safari being a real thing, but it would've been pretty fucking dangerous to do, considering that the entire place was already covered with snipers from both sides of the war.

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protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10
#54 · Quote Reply

I've never simultaneously hunted multiple persons.

It's much more enjoyable to have a specific target you have to outwit

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#55 · Quote Reply

...so basically Palestine today and for the past 80 years!

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#56 · Quote Reply

Rich people are a blight upon the earth. They have destroyed the earth and deserve no sympathy.

"When it is our turn , there will be no excuses for our terror."

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#57 · Quote Reply

Isn't that a recent accusation that it's still being investigated? Sarajevo Safari is the name for an alleged war tourism So it's not proven that happened.

but think about it:

Knowinng the history of humanity, do you think that it is more likely that this allegation is true or untrue ? šŸ˜

It is up to humanity ro choose when we will make a society where such a thing is impossible to ever occur, let alone bbe alleged to have had occurred.

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#58 · Quote Reply

On the internet, nobody knows you're a lion.

As a 100% non-lion I can attest that I also enjoy stalking and eating zebras and layinng im the savannah's cooling mud after heated, sexy times with my lionness

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#59 · Quote Reply

Agreed,we're under attack for so long...

...ok?.....and what are we gonna do about it?

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
#60 · Quote Reply

...so basically Palestine today and for the past 80 years!

Not quite

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ChunkMcHorkle lemmy.world ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

ā€œInvestigationsā€ aren’t the same as ā€œconclusions.ā€ Naming people just means accusing them.

"Journalism" isn't the same thing as "law enforcement" and it is dishonest to conflate the two. "Evidence" as defined by a documentary and "evidence" as defined by law enforcement are worlds apart, and they do NOT work to the same standard. As you clearly know, but would like to elide.

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Grandwolf319 sh.itjust.works Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-24
#62 · Quote Reply

The more time goes on the more we find out how rich people are truly the definition of evil.

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Zarobi aussie.zone Zarobi@aussie.zone
Joined: 2026-06-23
#63 · Quote Reply

I don't think that's wrong, exactly, but I think it's an oversimplification. Most poor people who win huge lotteries don't become sinister tycoons, they spend the money and then go back to being poor. Sort of like how when Smeagol and Bilbo and Frodo and Sam wear the one ring, they don't gather armies unto themselves and conquer Middle Earth. They don't know how, and they don't want to learn. I...

It's a self selecting position. Political positions reward the cutthroats, the ones who will make backroom deals and compromise their morals.

Kind and considerate people are rarely in power, and never for long. You will be replaced if you don't "play the game".

In the Lord of the Rings example, looking exclusively at humans here, only the lords were allowed to wear the rings of power. Hobbits and peasants were not given rings. Even the country town's seventh prince, who would have made the ideal king, was not given a ring. Only the people already at the top, who already had to fight their brothers and sisters for succession of the throne, who were used to political games and dealing with the devil, got the rings. Of course they became evil; evil was already within them.

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KingOfNoobs lemmy.world KingOfNoobs@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#64 · Quote Reply

I think it is still happening. Remember those boats we shot for no reason?

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Geobloke aussie.zone Geobloke@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-06-30
#65 · Quote Reply

I think it is still happening. Remember those boats we shot for no reason?

The US did that pro bono. Or bonner, not sure which

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crashfrog lemmy.world crashfrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-11
#66 · Quote Reply

"Journalism" isn't the same thing as "law enforcement" and it is dishonest to conflate the two. "Evidence" as defined by a documentary and "evidence" as defined by law enforcement are worlds apart, and they do NOT work to the same standard. As you clearly know, but would like to elide.

The reason the standards are lower for journalism is that the conclusions journalists arrive at are less trustworthy.

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queerlilhayseed piefed.blahaj.zone queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-27
#67 · Quote Reply

It's a self selecting position. Political positions reward the cutthroats, the ones who will make backroom deals and compromise their morals. Kind and considerate people are rarely in power, and never for long. You will be replaced if you don't "play the game". In the Lord of the Rings example, looking exclusively at humans here, only the lords were allowed to wear the rings of power. Hobbits a...

Sauron gave rings of power to political leaders because he wanted to usurp their political power, not because they had earned them. They just happened to be the type of person he was targeting. Similar rings could perhaps have been mass manufactured and distributed to the masses, but when power is concentrated, it makes more sense to corrupt the locus of power than to faff about with corrupting the commoners directly.

Do you think the nazgul were all born evil?

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Zarobi aussie.zone Zarobi@aussie.zone
Joined: 2026-06-23
#68 · Quote Reply

Sauron gave rings of power to political leaders because he wanted to usurp their political power, not because they had earned them. They just happened to be the type of person he was targeting. Similar rings could perhaps have been mass manufactured and distributed to the masses, but when power is concentrated, it makes more sense to corrupt the locus of power than to faff about with corrupting...

I'm a bit confused by this reply, sorry. We seem to agree? Or are you saying that the kings were good before getting the rings?

I kind of feel like the LOTR metaphor barely works in this thread context anyway, since they had a mind control element to them. Most people in power in reality seem to become evil perfectly fine without any mind control at all (that we know of).

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Earthwormjim91 lemmy.world Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#69 · Quote Reply

The more time goes on the more we find out how rich people are truly the definition of evil.

It goes far beyond just rich people. I think it’s unfortunately a rather large chunk of humanity in general. The rich just have the means to make it happen and get away with it.

I grew up dirt poor, and there was no shortage of poor people beating their kids, molesting kids, beating their spouses, killing their spouses, or beating or killing others. It was the norm.

They’d just end up in jail more often.

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queerlilhayseed piefed.blahaj.zone queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-27
#70 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm a bit confused by this reply, sorry. We seem to agree? Or are you saying that the kings were good before getting the rings? I kind of feel like the LOTR metaphor barely works in this thread context anyway, since they had a mind control element to them. Most people in power in reality seem to become evil perfectly fine without any mind control at all (that we know of).

That's ok, I was confused by your reply too, and I was trying to guess at what you meant. Your last sentence seemed to imply that evil people naturally rise to power and were only given rings because they were already evil and were therefore Sauron's natural allies. Where I was headed with my reply was that it doesn't really matter if the ringwraiths were good or evil before they received the rings, because the purpose of the ring was to convert all that they were, political power, personal identity, and all, to the service of Sauron's will.

On the subject of mind control: The Nazgul purportedly can't resist the will of Sauron (at least not by the time of the events of LotR), but many characters (Bilbo, Gandalf, Galadriel, Faramir, Sam) willingly refuse to take the ring even for a moment, and some can even willingly give it up after they've possessed it. I'd call what the rings do "influence" or "temptation" before I called it mind control. The Nazgul cannot resist Sauron because they can no longer imagine themselves not in thrall to him. Sauron doesn't mind control them in the classic sense; he doesn't have to.

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abc suppo.fi abc@suppo.fi
Joined: 2026-05-28
#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

The more time goes on the more we find out how rich people are truly the definition of evil.

The reason why only rich people do shit like this is that it takes money to do it.

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queerlilhayseed piefed.blahaj.zone queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-27
#72 · Quote Reply

Is it corruption if I understand I’d be a beneficial dictator from day 1, if I had that power? Billionaires, and a lotttt of other people, have the guillotine coming

All the best dictatorships start with the mass killing of political and ideological enemies. I'd say you've grasped the essentials.

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#73 · Quote Reply

Not quite

....and your proof is? ....

Here's mine : https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/15/thousands-of-western-nationals-fought-israels-war-on-gaza-what-to-know

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-07
#74 · Quote Reply

...ok?.....and what are we gonna do about it?

Survive I guess

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Tower lemmy.zip Tower@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#75 · Quote Reply

"Don't try to tell me how some power can corrupt a person You haven't had enough to know what it's like You're only angry 'cause you wish you were in my position Now nod your head because you know that I'm right, all right?" Trent said it with a little more whimsy.
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Uranus_Hz lemmy.zip Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-03-01
#76 · Quote Reply

Yeah, I remember the movie ā€œHostelā€.

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El_Scapacabra lemmy.zip El_Scapacabra@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-09
#77 · Quote Reply

The reason why only rich people do shit like this is that it takes money to do it.

Poor people have to enlist in the military for the opportunity. Not saying that everyone in the military signed up for this reason, but the amount of people that did is definitely higher that zero.

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trolololol lemmy.world trolololol@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-07
#78 · (edited) Quote Reply

Poor people have to enlist in the military for the opportunity. Not saying that everyone in the military signed up for this reason, but the amount of people that did is definitely higher that zero.

Yep but you also get a chance to get shot when you're poor. And you don't get to go home when you're done.

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majster lemmy.zip majster@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-26
#79 · Quote Reply

Very important context that supports this is: during the war in Bosnia a lot of the fighters on the serb side were career criminals from the western Europe returning home to join the fight. So they definitly had connections with potential clients.

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majster lemmy.zip majster@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-26
#80 · Quote Reply

I think it is still happening. Remember those boats we shot for no reason?

I wouldn't be surprised if something like this was also going on among private mercenaries groups in the middle east wars.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
#81 · Quote Reply

Gee, I wonder what country is absolutely doing that now.

Oh yeah, and rich people that need organs, where do you think they get them from?

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
#82 · Quote Reply

....and your proof is? .... Here's mine : https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/15/thousands-of-western-nationals-fought-israels-war-on-gaza-what-to-know

Organ trade as well. Betcha.

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Pyro programming.dev Pyro@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-26
#83 · Quote Reply

You mean $2000

That wouldn't even cover my rent lol

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grranibal lemmy.zip grranibal@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-03-05
#84 · Quote Reply

Taxing them is not enough. The capitalist system will continue to enable them to amass power and wealth to overturn any limit on their power in due time. We must remove the concept of money, private ownership, and wealth in it’s entirety.

B b b b b buuuuut then the undeserving poor will have my money!!!! /s

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w3dd1e lemmy.zip W3dd1e@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-05
#85 · Quote Reply

I think it is still happening. Remember those boats we shot for no reason?

I read the entire Wikipedia article, near the bottom, someone claims they ā€œput a stop to itā€. IN 2025. Jfc. They article wasn’t clear if they were talking about in Bosnia but it made it sound more recent than that.

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SocialMediaRefugee lemmy.world SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#86 · Quote Reply

It says a lot of allegations and anonymous sources but very little real evidence.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-21
#87 · Quote Reply

Gee, I wonder what country is absolutely doing that now. Oh yeah, and rich people that need organs, where do you think they get them from?

probably China. Chinese government has been using the Uighurs as an organ bank for like 20 years.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
#88 · Quote Reply

probably China. Chinese government has been using the Uighurs as an organ bank for like 20 years.

I was referring to Israel. But yeah china has long harvested organs from the executed since like forever. At least 30 years I think, I read about it back around 2002 or so.

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crashfrog lemmy.world crashfrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-11
#89 · Quote Reply

That wouldn't even cover my rent lol

No, if nobody could have more than $2000 in wealth the rent would go way down

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-11
#90 · (edited) Quote Reply

...ok?.....and what are we gonna do about it?

Be the change you want to see, if you want a "we" you must start with "me". (original poem by Mulligrubs)

What are YOU gonna do about it?

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-11
#91 · Quote Reply

No, if nobody could have more than $2000 in wealth the rent would go way down

No. They'll stack you in tiny holes like a cell in a bee hive. There will be no apartments.

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UnequalExchange lemmy.world UnequalExchange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#92 · Quote Reply

Be the change you want to see, if you want a "we" you must start with "me". (original poem by Mulligrubs) What are YOU gonna do about it?

Ill simoly say two things that Im allowed to say here :

  1. I have a gun

  2. Look at my profile picture

The nazis that run this website will not allow me to elaborate any further than this so ....do with that what you will šŸ˜

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#93 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich

nah, throw them into woodchippers, then compost the resulting goo until safe, then spread it on farms, and eat the resultant rich, succulent crops.

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Tetsuo jlai.lu Tetsuo@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-07-02
#94 · Quote Reply

There's pictures of me with a silenced rifle, and I definitely never hunted people in Sarajevo in the 90s.

The guy was boasting about his trip so it's not "just a picture"...

Do you boast to your wife about your war crime tourism ?

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SystemDisc feddit.org SystemDisc@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-05-20
#95 · (edited) Quote Reply

Money/power corrupts. If you've had a taste of power at work, say in middle management, you probably know what I mean. Imagine that 1000X stronger. Hand almost anyone a billion dollars, and they'll quickly lose their compassion and empathy. You're not immune, you just don't have access.

I believe that the type of people who are "corrupted" by power are typically the ones who seek it. I feel like there are plenty of people who wouldn't be corrupted by power, but they're the ones who do not seek power, and thus are rarely in positions of large amounts of power.

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