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ICE is quietly firing new hires. For one recruit, it was devastating.
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mysticpickle lemmy.ca mysticpickle@lemmy.ca
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ICE notified Moore in late August that he was going to be fired and instructed him to come to the agency’s Philadelphia office, according to two federal officials who also spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters. ICE had identified issues in his past, the officials said, including being fired from other law enforcement agencies.

The 38-year-old father of two had fought for his job when supervisors wanted to fire him in the past.

This time, he parked his car in a lot outside the office, and he had his gun. Law enforcement officers tried to stop him, but Moore eventually shot and killed himself, according to the Philadelphia Police Department.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/09/15/ice-is-quietly-firing-new-hires-one-recruit-it-was-devastating/

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phar lemmy.world phar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
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Geez I hope there is at least some percentage of a way those kids end up okay.

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Skyrmir lemmy.world Skyrmir@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
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The thugs are disposable, the real point of ICE is to funnel money to companies lie GEO group.

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switcheroo lemmy.world switcheroo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-01
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Too shitty or not shitty enough of a person for ICE, I wonder...?

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Jesusaurus lemmy.world Jesusaurus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
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The thugs are disposable, the real point of ICE is to funnel money to companies lie GEO group.

That and just being the means to an end without caring how we get there. ICE are being used as Gestapo agents to realign the population in the way that these fascists want it either through mass deportations, abductions or generally terrorizing the people they identify as undesirable. They don't care about ICE itself, but more the end result that comes of it.

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Vanth reddthat.com Vanth@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-06-22
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Didn't the signing bonus hit after some months to a year on the job? Of course Trump and team would try to wlech on it as much as possible and fire people before bonuses got paid out.

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justOnePersistentKbinPlease fedia.io justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-09-06
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Didn't the signing bonus hit after some months to a year on the job? Of course Trump and team would try to wlech on it as much as possible and fire people before bonuses got paid out.

As I recall, it was years. Enough time that the orange moron and his handlers will fire them for "performance" reasons and they will (rightly) never see that bonus.

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Scrubbles poptalk.scrubbles.tech scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
Joined: 2023-06-02
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As I recall, it was years. Enough time that the orange moron and his handlers will fire them for "performance" reasons and they will (rightly) never see that bonus.

After doing contracting for years I don't know why anyone would trust "signing bonuses" that aren't paid out immediately. If you don't have it paid immediately, there is no bonus. It's the same as "contract-to-hire" after 6 months. You aren't getting converted at 6 months. It's a 6 month contract then you're out. They're just dangling a carrot barely out of reach

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
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Too shitty or not shitty enough of a person for ICE, I wonder...?

The likely scenario is that he had been fired from previous law enforcement jobs, probably for violent behavior, and this was his last chance. He eventually got violent enough in this job that he became a liability. Perhaps he was already involved in a bad situation. So given his past, it was best to end further liability.

He understood that he was at the absolute end of his law enforcement career.

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Murse slrpnk.net Murse@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-03-07
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Geez I hope there is at least some percentage of a way those kids end up okay.

Growing up watching your own dad be an evil sack of shit who made his own life terrible enough to end it by suicide...

I could see that at least sending the message "don't be an evil sack of shit". Or it could traumatize them into following daddy's footsteps... seems like these kinds of things tend to end in extreme good or extreme bad.

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Sundray lemmus.org sundray@lemmus.org
Joined: 2023-12-19
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Too shitty or not shitty enough of a person for ICE, I wonder...?

Sounds like a two-time loser. In his first job he arrested a jail captain(!) and was told to quit. He got another cop job in another town, but then:

The Lower Frederick Township Board of Supervisors determined that he should be let go after he filed erroneous police reports, endorsed a vendor’s gear without permission, wore an unauthorized firearm and failed to appear at an alleged intoxicated driver’s court hearing, according to official township records filed in court.

(His family disputes the allegations, naturally.)

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
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After doing contracting for years I don't know why anyone would trust "signing bonuses" that aren't paid out immediately. If you don't have it paid immediately, there is no bonus. It's the same as "contract-to-hire" after 6 months. You aren't getting converted at 6 months. It's a 6 month contract then you're out. They're just dangling a carrot barely out of reach

“contract-to-hire” after 6 months. You aren’t getting converted at 6 months

Yeah. File in with the other "lies recruiters tell that no one believes"; like the "we're a family" and "work hard, play hard".

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
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Officer down

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Dr. Unabart sh.itjust.works unabart@sh.itjust.works
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Thoughts and prayers.

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abcdqfr lemmy.world abcdqfr@lemmy.world
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Officer down

Ground pork

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Beth piefed.social Beth@piefed.social
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After doing contracting for years I don't know why anyone would trust "signing bonuses" that aren't paid out immediately. If you don't have it paid immediately, there is no bonus. It's the same as "contract-to-hire" after 6 months. You aren't getting converted at 6 months. It's a 6 month contract then you're out. They're just dangling a carrot barely out of reach

Yeah I’ve always just factored my “bonus” into my total compensation, as it is paid out in an asinine way like that. I plan to move on after the last installment to ensure I reach the same level of compensation, which is on them for paying a somewhat lower base salary than others imo. It is annoying that it framed as some kind of bonus when it really just gives a slight edge to my overall salary. They have paid out so far though.

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Bluewing lemmy.world Bluewing@lemmy.world
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They have served their theatrical purpose for the fan base. They can be disposed of now.

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M4t1cc lemmy.world M4t1cc@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-05
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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ParlimentOfDoom piefed.zip ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-26
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After doing contracting for years I don't know why anyone would trust "signing bonuses" that aren't paid out immediately. If you don't have it paid immediately, there is no bonus. It's the same as "contract-to-hire" after 6 months. You aren't getting converted at 6 months. It's a 6 month contract then you're out. They're just dangling a carrot barely out of reach

I don’t know why anyone would trust “signing bonuses” that aren’t paid out immediately

The hiring pool is people who were too dumb to become cops

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SnarkoPolo lemmy.world SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-08
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They have served their theatrical purpose for the fan base. They can be disposed of now.

Republicans will need a secret police even more. I think they're just weeding out the amateurs, and hiring men who can be trained a little more, to use their brutality more efficiently.

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Assassassin lemmy.dbzer0.com Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-26
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Awww the shit bag group backstabbing people here legally backstabbed him? What a fucking surprise.

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dermanus lemmy.ca dermanus@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-05
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As I recall, it was years. Enough time that the orange moron and his handlers will fire them for "performance" reasons and they will (rightly) never see that bonus.

It was five years IIRC. I remember thinking at the time it was plenty of time for a change of government.

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Pat_Riot lemmy.today Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-09-29
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Every ICE agent should eat their pistol. Let's get a trend going.

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aquovie lemmy.cafe aquovie@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-07-28
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As I recall, it was years. Enough time that the orange moron and his handlers will fire them for "performance" reasons and they will (rightly) never see that bonus.

I thought it was 4 years but I thought it was also pro-rated.

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roofuskit lemmy.world roofuskit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-03
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Wow, I'm sorry for the people who lost him but if that isn't evidence that he should never have been given a gun I don't know what is. We're all just lucky he turned it on himself in a moment of dispair instead of someone else.

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fyzzlefry retrolemmy.com fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2025-03-16
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The likely scenario is that he had been fired from previous law enforcement jobs, probably for violent behavior, and this was his last chance. He eventually got violent enough in this job that he became a liability. Perhaps he was already involved in a bad situation. So given his past, it was best to end further liability. He understood that he was at the absolute end of his law enforcement career.

And he would rather die than get an education.

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hypnicjerk piefed.social hypnicjerk@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-12-01
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After doing contracting for years I don't know why anyone would trust "signing bonuses" that aren't paid out immediately. If you don't have it paid immediately, there is no bonus. It's the same as "contract-to-hire" after 6 months. You aren't getting converted at 6 months. It's a 6 month contract then you're out. They're just dangling a carrot barely out of reach

It’s the same as “contract-to-hire” after 6 months. You aren’t getting converted at 6 months.

this hasn't been my experience at all but maybe i'm just a model employee? (this comment typed during work hours)

2016 i went from working for a help desk service provider > a private industry help desk who went 6 months contract to hire. mediocre wages and shit commute but was a huge leg up and got specialized training within a year.

2024 i went 6 month contract to hire for a remote contractor in that specialized dev field and got them to provide the job offer in writing 3 months early as a basis for me to secure a home loan.

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captainlezbian lemmy.world captainlezbian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
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Yeah I’ve always just factored my “bonus” into my total compensation, as it is paid out in an asinine way like that. I plan to move on after the last installment to ensure I reach the same level of compensation, which is on them for paying a somewhat lower base salary than others imo. It is annoying that it framed as some kind of bonus when it really just gives a slight edge to my overall salar...

I don't even consider it when thinking about compensation. It's a nice to have, but unless it's recurring, like a union signing bonus, then the longer I'm there the worse it is, and I really prefer some stability

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
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Too shitty or not shitty enough of a person for ICE, I wonder...?

Imagine wanting to work for ICE so bad that you off yourself when they don't even want you...

Are we supposed to feel bad for this guy? I'm confused...

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HarkMahlberg kbin.earth HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth
Joined: 2025-03-18
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A compilation of the greatest hits:

When he was 18, his mother reported to police that he had driven her car without permission...

Moore arrested an on-duty jail captain in May 2018 during a dispute over a prisoner.

During one of their assignments together, he said, Moore shattered a car window to reach allegedly undocumented immigrants inside. “It was like, whoa, why did this guy break this window out?” the former officer said...

A Ford truck traveling around 40 mph had struck the driver’s side of Moore’s blue Toyota Camry at around 5:15 a.m. ... The report noted Moore had entered the roadway “improperly” and drove “carelessly.” ...

“Taking my credentials and gun makes me feel like a leper,” Moore wrote. “There’s no greater insult to a cop.”

“People shouldn’t have to die for this.”

That's right, Good, Pretti, and hundreds of others should not have had to die for this.

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roofuskit lemmy.world roofuskit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-03
#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

Officer down

Technically he was no longer an officer of anything. Fired 3 times.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
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Technically he was no longer an officer of anything. Fired 3 times.

👍

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chewypoops lemmy.world chewypoops@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

Hell yeah, I love a happy ending.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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Imagine wanting to work for ICE so bad that you off yourself when they don't even want you... Are we supposed to feel bad for this guy? I'm confused...

If even ICE wants to fire you, and they take absolute dregs of society, then he should reevaluate his life choices.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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Didn't the signing bonus hit after some months to a year on the job? Of course Trump and team would try to wlech on it as much as possible and fire people before bonuses got paid out.

5 years in ICE, and ICE wasnt planning on keeping them for 5 years anyways. they let it elapse under the next presidency.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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If even ICE wants to fire you, and they take absolute dregs of society, then he should reevaluate his life choices.

My first thought was that he had taken a principled stance on something and they fired him for not being a big enough piece of shit, and then I read further and boy was I wrong...

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ecvanalog lemmy.world ecvanalog@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

I guess it really doesn’t pay to be working for the clampdown.

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Leviathan lemmy.world Leviathan@lemmy.world
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Didn't expect ICE trash to take itself out.

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mkwt lemmy.world mkwt@lemmy.world
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Too shitty or not shitty enough of a person for ICE, I wonder...?

ICE went on a massive hiring spree several months ago. There were like no background checks whatsoever. People could get hired online without much of any experience or credentials.

It sounds like ICE may be starting to roll some of that back.

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phoenixarise lemmy.world phoenixarise@lemmy.world
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#40 · Quote Reply

He finally did a good deed. One less pestilence in this world. Good riddance.

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phoenixarise lemmy.world phoenixarise@lemmy.world
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And he would rather die than get an education.

lol sounds like a real loser.

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phoenixarise lemmy.world phoenixarise@lemmy.world
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“contract-to-hire” after 6 months. You aren’t getting converted at 6 months Yeah. File in with the other "lies recruiters tell that no one believes"; like the "we're a family" and "work hard, play hard".

“we’re a family” will have me running for the hills. My own relatives are garbage, and even they haven’t treated me as shabbily as a company that calls themselves a “family.”

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phoenixarise lemmy.world phoenixarise@lemmy.world
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I don’t know why anyone would trust “signing bonuses” that aren’t paid out immediately The hiring pool is people who were too dumb to become cops

Too dumb, too fat, too out of shape. It was fun seeing captors escape their clutches
and run off. 😂

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phoenixarise lemmy.world phoenixarise@lemmy.world
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5 years in ICE, and ICE wasnt planning on keeping them for 5 years anyways. they let it elapse under the next presidency.

Maybe their idea is that a democrat gets elected, cuts way back on ICE’s budget, and “fires” them, giving democrats the blame.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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Maybe their idea is that a democrat gets elected, cuts way back on ICE’s budget, and “fires” them, giving democrats the blame.

and then they vote for the right, notice the type of people also employed by ice, AA and hispanics, they want them angry. historically AA voted for dems.

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Pyr lemmy.ca Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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The likely scenario is that he had been fired from previous law enforcement jobs, probably for violent behavior, and this was his last chance. He eventually got violent enough in this job that he became a liability. Perhaps he was already involved in a bad situation. So given his past, it was best to end further liability. He understood that he was at the absolute end of his law enforcement career.

A lot of the ice officers were also hired without background checks and given a $50,000 bonus. Now they are being fired before the probation period ends and are required to pay back the $50k which, guess what? Probably has been spent

Sounds like a trigger for some of these people taking their lives.

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