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Denuvo has sued “voices38” in U.S. federal court under the DMCA’s anti-circumvention rules for allegedly bypassing its DRM
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mr_MADAFAKA lemmy.ml mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml
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ehyuman lemmy.dbzer0.com ehyuman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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oh no, anyway

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Jay lemmy.ca Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-07
#3 · Quote Reply

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katy ✨ piefed.blahaj.zone cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-06
#4 · Quote Reply

"bypassing drm" isn't a crime any more than walking past someone on a sidewalk is.

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inari piefed.zip inari@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-02-07
#5 · Quote Reply

If anyone else got curious: https://www.reddit.com/user/voices38/

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Eternal192 anarchist.nexus Eternal192@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-06
#6 · Quote Reply

So?

Then don't put that fucking malware in games and it won't be bypassed, problem solved.

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stevles aussie.zone stevles@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-02-15
#7 · Quote Reply

So? Then don't put that fucking malware in games and it won't be bypassed, problem solved.

https://tech4gamers.com/denuvo-destroys-performance-optimization-games/

Honestly, no single malware tanks gaming performance anywhere near the levels that this shit does. It's closer to the characteristics of game cancer.

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FreudianCafe lemmy.ml FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-02-05
#8 · Quote Reply

Its funny how the free market is only good when it benefits capitalists. The moment someone makes them lose money competition is over and its time to sue others

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jubilationtcornpone sh.itjust.works jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-13
#9 · Quote Reply

Some people never learn.

Streisand Effect

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Herbal Gamer sh.itjust.works HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-30
#10 · Quote Reply

I like voices38; they allowed me to finish AC Shadows because the story ending is hidden behind DLC

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eleijeep piefed.social eleijeep@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-09-22
#11 · Quote Reply

Denuvo has done some homework, though. The filing lists a Discord user ID, a Reddit account and seven Steam profiles that it believes are linked to the cracker.

Denuvo hopes the information linked to these accounts will eventually unmask the cracker. Games have to be bought before they can be cracked, for example, and Steam purchases come with payment details.

I hope this person has good OPSEC.

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y0kai lemmy.dbzer0.com y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-09-02
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"bypassing drm" isn't a crime any more than walking past someone on a sidewalk is.

it is in the USA, unfortunately.

https://www.jurisstate.blog/is-removing-drm-illegal#is-it-illegal-to-remove-drm-for-personal-use

But then, we also treat walking past someone on the sidewalk as a crime here as well, if that someone is a bored or angry cop.

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vk8kv lemmy.ml vk8kv@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-08-12
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I like voices38; they allowed me to finish AC Shadows because the story ending is hidden behind DLC

What in the holy dystopia did I just read?

Buy game, and buy ending too? 😭✋

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Herbal Gamer sh.itjust.works HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-30
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What in the holy dystopia did I just read? Buy game, and buy ending too? 😭✋

Yup, the story doesn't really finish at the end of the main questline but even the dlc ending felt kinda unfinished.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
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it is in the USA, unfortunately. https://www.jurisstate.blog/is-removing-drm-illegal#is-it-illegal-to-remove-drm-for-personal-use But then, we also treat walking past someone on the sidewalk as a crime here as well, if that someone is a bored or angry cop.

US has ~0.4 % chance of the person living there.

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fake sh.itjust.works fake@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-19
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Yup, the story doesn't really finish at the end of the main questline but even the dlc ending felt kinda unfinished.

Gotta leave the door open for even more dlc if the corporate overlords decree it.

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Bluegrass_Addict lemmy.ca Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-10-21
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Its funny how the free market is only good when it benefits capitalists. The moment someone makes them lose money competition is over and its time to sue others

they are NOT losing money. I would never buy this garbage to begin with. I'd pirate it to try it, but once I saw how utter shit they are I wouldn't even play the pirated copies.

they are not losing money

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
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I like voices38; they allowed me to finish AC Shadows because the story ending is hidden behind DLC

In fairness so do most games that launch with planned dlc. And you do get endings for each character that wrap up most plot points in the base game. All the "new" assassin's creed games have done this, you get two or three endings in the base game and the dlcs will wrap up a few remaining threads not covered in the base. Base game endings are left a little open because it's an ongoing game series but they absolutely wrap up the main plot, it's a bit misleading to say the ending is locked behind dlc when it's really just one ancillary plot thread that gets explored and resolved.

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orca orcas.enjoying.yachts orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
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Gotta leave the door open for even more dlc if the corporate overlords decree it.

Choo choo! Here comes the DLC train! 🚂

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orca orcas.enjoying.yachts orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
Joined: 2023-07-07
#20 · Quote Reply

I see Denuvo in a game, I don’t buy or even pirate said game.

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
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Gotta leave the door open for even more dlc if the corporate overlords decree it.

It's also the same format all the modern AC games have had. And the endings in the base game are fine, open-ended but more or less complete. All the dlc did was bring more context to a side character that wasn't really relevant to the main story.

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skankhunt42 lemmy.ca skankhunt42@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-03
#22 · Quote Reply

If anyone else got curious: https://www.reddit.com/user/voices38/

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Herbal Gamer sh.itjust.works HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-30
#23 · Quote Reply

In fairness so do most games that launch with planned dlc. And you do get endings for each character that wrap up most plot points in the base game. All the "new" assassin's creed games have done this, you get two or three endings in the base game and the dlcs will wrap up a few remaining threads not covered in the base. Base game endings are left a little open because it's an ongoing game seri...

Isn't one of the mcguffins you're chasing in the dlc? That counts as the actual ending being hidden to me. The rest is just arguments against planned dlc.

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Courtney (she/her/they) lemmy.blahaj.zone EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-10
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they are NOT losing money. I would never buy this garbage to begin with. I'd pirate it to try it, but once I saw how utter shit they are I wouldn't even play the pirated copies. they are not losing money

They aren't, but they have the understanding of literal children. They can't process the fact that a pirated game isn't a lost sale, because to them every single person on the planet wants what they have to offer, and if they get it any way OTHER than buying it outright at full price, CLEARLY it must be theft and people are targeting them specifically because what they have is so great.

I pirated Minecraft back in the beta days, decided I loved it, and eventually bought it (before notch went full mask off and the sale of mojang) had it not been for TPB, mojang would have had one less sale.

Same for several others. Hilariously, the only time I ever recieved a c&d was for a game I loved and then canceled the online order for when I got the letter two days later. I wanted to buy it, but the letter made up my mind that I was never giving them money again. Fuck em. Dead rising went downhill after the first one anyway so I didn't miss much.

Executives view life as a zero-sum game.

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
#25 · Quote Reply

Isn't one of the mcguffins you're chasing in the dlc? That counts as the actual ending being hidden to me. The rest is just arguments against planned dlc.

There's macguffins left and right. The dlc in shadows is mostly around one characters past relationship that was tangential but not directly relative to any of the narrative elements in the base game.

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ColeSloth discuss.tchncs.de ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-08-18
#26 · Quote Reply

In fairness so do most games that launch with planned dlc. And you do get endings for each character that wrap up most plot points in the base game. All the "new" assassin's creed games have done this, you get two or three endings in the base game and the dlcs will wrap up a few remaining threads not covered in the base. Base game endings are left a little open because it's an ongoing game seri...

In fairness; STFU. Not fully fleshing out a game with planned intent on releasing doc can go to hell. Games were a hell of a lot more engaging when you had to put out effort to unlock characters or skins or weapons instead of buying them, and the end of an RPG wrapped everything up and felt complete.

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ルルㇲ Member arules
Joined: 2026-08-18
#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

Denuvo has done some homework, though. The filing lists a Discord user ID, a Reddit account and seven Steam profiles that it believes are linked to the cracker. Denuvo hopes the information linked to these accounts will eventually unmask the cracker. Games have to be bought before they can be cracked, for example, and Steam purchases come with payment details. I hope this person has good OPSEC.

a Discord user

If it does belong to voices38, then I pray they start a new life.

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
#28 · Quote Reply

In fairness; STFU. Not fully fleshing out a game with planned intent on releasing doc can go to hell. Games were a hell of a lot more engaging when you had to put out effort to unlock characters or skins or weapons instead of buying them, and the end of an RPG wrapped everything up and felt complete.

Games were an order of magnitude smaller scale then. If you don't like sprawling open world narratives with hundreds of hours of quality content and gameplay, don't fuckin play em. Ubisoft and AC deserve shit for their hostile implementation of mtx and always online dumbfuckery. The games themselves are well made and well written. Have legitimate criticism instead of bullshit bandwagoning. The game was complete without the dlc. It was extra story, not main story. Eat my whole asshole. I already said that all games with planned post launch dlc pull this shit because they do, ac isn't fuckin special or worse, arguably they're better because the games are still quality in spite of the corporate fuckery.

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

US has ~0.4 % chance of the person living there.

That's not the point. They want the real identity so they can charge them and ask for coorporation of the country they are in to extradite to the US

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#30 · Quote Reply

Couldn't Denuvo get a subpoena to have reddit unmask that account?

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ColeSloth discuss.tchncs.de ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-08-18
#31 · Quote Reply

Games were an order of magnitude smaller scale then. If you don't like sprawling open world narratives with hundreds of hours of quality content and gameplay, don't fuckin play em. Ubisoft and AC deserve shit for their hostile implementation of mtx and always online dumbfuckery. The games themselves are well made and well written. Have legitimate criticism instead of bullshit bandwagoning. The ...

Lol. Go screw yourself, shill. Some games are bigger than ever, but guess what? So is the number of people purchasing games. 25 years ago a game selling a million copies was a big deal and the biggest game of the year might break 2 million copies. Last year battlefield 6 sold 7 million copies in 3 days and 20 million copies total last year.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#32 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's not the point. They want the real identity so they can charge them and ask for coorporation of the country they are in to extradite to the US

For illegal file sharing?? They didn't murder anyone!

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NakedNateRollerSkate lemmy.dbzer0.com NakedNateRollerSkate@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-17
#33 · Quote Reply

Denuvo has done some homework, though. The filing lists a Discord user ID, a Reddit account and seven Steam profiles that it believes are linked to the cracker. Denuvo hopes the information linked to these accounts will eventually unmask the cracker. Games have to be bought before they can be cracked, for example, and Steam purchases come with payment details. I hope this person has good OPSEC.

For anyone unfamiliar, I strongly recommend Michael Bazzell's book Extreme Privacy for a fantastic entry into this world. It covers much more than your typical OPSEC stuff, but it is thorough, well written, and fun to learn about.

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Nerdulous lemmy.zip Nerdulous@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-05
#34 · Quote Reply

US has ~0.4 % chance of the person living there.

How'd you get to that number?

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

How'd you get to that number?

Total world population - US population over ✊ x pi

Edit: or do you mean the % formula?

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trebach sh.itjust.works trebach@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-08-10
#36 · Quote Reply

How'd you get to that number?

Their math is off by an order of magnitude. The US has about 4.25% of the Earth's population, not 0.4%.

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Herbal Gamer sh.itjust.works HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-30
#37 · Quote Reply

There's macguffins left and right. The dlc in shadows is mostly around one characters past relationship that was tangential but not directly relative to any of the narrative elements in the base game.

Ok didnt want to say this because of spoilers but:

I was talking about the three red boxes; third is in the dlc

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
#38 · Quote Reply

Ok didnt want to say this because of spoilers but: I was talking about the three red boxes; third is in the dlc

They're still only tangentially related to the game's primary revenge narrative. Naoe and Yasuke have complete arcs in the base game. I don't disagree that it's a bullshit business tactic and that shadows is probably the worst ac in that regard, but it does have multiple endings more or less on par with Odyssey or Valhalla in terms of wrapping up loose threads. It's assassin's creed, they all leave dozens of loose threads.

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
#39 · Quote Reply

Lol. Go screw yourself, shill. Some games are bigger than ever, but guess what? So is the number of people purchasing games. 25 years ago a game selling a million copies was a big deal and the biggest game of the year might break 2 million copies. Last year battlefield 6 sold 7 million copies in 3 days and 20 million copies total last year.

I bet you still get upset about gamergate.

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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-12
#40 · Quote Reply

I see Denuvo in a game, I don’t buy or even pirate said game.

i'll pirate it alright

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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-12
#41 · Quote Reply

they don't even know who this person is lmao

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☂️- lemmy.ml umbrella@lemmy.ml
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#42 · (edited) Quote Reply

Couldn't Denuvo get a subpoena to have reddit unmask that account?

not if they know what they are doing. and it looks like they do.

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skankhunt42 lemmy.ca skankhunt42@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-03
#43 · Quote Reply

Couldn't Denuvo get a subpoena to have reddit unmask that account?

If voices did it right, all Reddit will have is a fake email and an IP that isn't theirs. The IP would be a VPN or a compromised/hacked server. Behind that should be another VPN/hacked server, maybe then over tor, etc, etc, etc.

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bountygiver [any] lemmy.ml bountygiver@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-08-24
#44 · (edited) Quote Reply

they are NOT losing money. I would never buy this garbage to begin with. I'd pirate it to try it, but once I saw how utter shit they are I wouldn't even play the pirated copies. they are not losing money

It's denuvo suing, in a sense if the uncrackable game service they claim is now crackable, they will lose customers

but this is like advertising you are the best and then sue anyone that is better to maintain your position

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bountygiver [any] lemmy.ml bountygiver@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-08-24
#45 · Quote Reply

If voices did it right, all Reddit will have is a fake email and an IP that isn't theirs. The IP would be a VPN or a compromised/hacked server. Behind that should be another VPN/hacked server, maybe then over tor, etc, etc, etc.

or from a country that doesn't comply with US requests

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f3nyx lemmy.ml f3nyx@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-02-23
#46 · Quote Reply

For anyone unfamiliar, I strongly recommend Michael Bazzell's book Extreme Privacy for a fantastic entry into this world. It covers much more than your typical OPSEC stuff, but it is thorough, well written, and fun to learn about.

unfortunately by this point a lot of the more 'extreme' things are outdated. the first few chapters remain a decent starting point.

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bluesheep sh.itjust.works bluesheep@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-30
#47 · Quote Reply

Couldn't Denuvo get a subpoena to have reddit unmask that account?

There has to be something to unmask first. You don't need to supply personal data for a reddit account do you?

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fartzo lemmy.dbzer0.com fartzo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-07
#48 · Quote Reply

For illegal file sharing?? They didn't murder anyone!

Read about Raymond Griffiths.

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Goldmage263 sh.itjust.works Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-15
#49 · Quote Reply

I see Denuvo in a game, I don’t buy or even pirate said game.

Same. Still waiting for Dragon's Dogma 2 to remove Denuvo before I even watch a video of the game.

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#50 · Quote Reply

There has to be something to unmask first. You don't need to supply personal data for a reddit account do you?

I suppose not, but they likely want IP addresses or some type of personal identifer. That's also why they want the discord info too

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-05-16
#51 · Quote Reply

they don't even know who this person is lmao

You say that like it's one person. 😏

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