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cm0002
suppo.fi
cm0002@suppo.fi Joined: 2025-11-10 |
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rumschlumpel
feddit.org
rumschlumpel@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
Oh a payment, how privacy-respecting. /s |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
Oh a payment, how privacy-respecting. /s
Well, depends on the offered payment option (article doesn't go into detail here). |
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Onomatopoeia
lemmy.cafe
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2025-01-02 |
Oh a payment, how privacy-respecting. /s Well, depends on the offered payment option (article doesn't go into detail here). And I also don't see it to be worse than having to provide your phone number.
It's no different. That's the problem. |
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rumschlumpel
feddit.org
rumschlumpel@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
Oh a payment, how privacy-respecting. /s Well, depends on the offered payment option (article doesn't go into detail here). And I also don't see it to be worse than having to provide your phone number.
What's the point of introducing it if it's merely "not worse"? |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
Let me guess, I can only get this beta by being signed in to Google Play and enrolled in a beta program? Edit: yep... |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
What's the point of introducing it if it's merely "not worse"?
Because "not worse" includes "better" for certain usecases, e.g. to add the Wifi-only family tablet. |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
It's no different. That's the problem.
But it is. |
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rumschlumpel
feddit.org
rumschlumpel@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
Because "not worse" includes "better" for certain usecases, e.g. to add the Wifi-only family tablet.
I'm not paying 3.49€ for that. |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
I'm not paying 3.49€ for that.
Your choice, and a totally understandable one. But I already paid several times even ~5€ for exactly that, so that my kids have a way to securely take part in a phone-number-free private family group chat. It is always good to just have the option. And if you don't need it: Fine for you! |
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rumschlumpel
feddit.org
rumschlumpel@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
Your choice, and a totally understandable one. But I already paid several times even ~5€ for exactly that, so that my kids have a way to securely take part in a phone-number-free private family group chat. (Threema based though, which had the phone-number-less option right from the start) It is always good to just have the option. And if you don't need it: Fine for you!
The thing is, I wanted a phone number-free option for privacy reasons, which can't be realized when its tied to payments. |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
The thing is, I wanted a phone number-free option for privacy reasons, which can't be realized when its tied to payments.
But privacy doesn't depend on a payment per se, but entirely on the type of payment method offered (which we don't know yet, as I already stated in my original comment). Coming back to e.g. Threema: You can buy a working Threema license key using completely anonymous payment, e.g. bitcoin, or even by cash. Having the option to pay instead of providing the phone number has the potential to be the much more privacy friendly option, if it is done right... |
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rumschlumpel
feddit.org
rumschlumpel@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
The thing, I wanted a phone number-free option for privacy reasons, which can’t be realized when its tied to payments. But privacy doesn't depend on a payment per se, but entirely on the type of payment method offered (which we don't know yet, as I already stated in my original comment). Coming back to e.g. Threema: You can buy a working Threema license key using completely anonymous payment, e...
Seems a bit difficult, I'm not particularly interested in going through all the hoops that come with trying to own cryptocurrency anonymously, and actual cash payments don't seem practical considering that the Signal organisation is US-based (I don't live in America; I'd absolutely try my luck with sending a letter with a 5€ note to e.g. Switzerland). And it's not really about the price, I'd happily donate 3.50, but not directly tied to my messenger account. |
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Of the Air (cele/celes)
Moderator
oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2024-07-20 |
Seems a bit difficult, I'm not particularly interested in going through all the hoops that come with trying to own cryptocurrency anonymously, and actual cash payments don't seem practical considering that the Signal organisation is US-based (I don't live in America; I'd absolutely try my luck with sending a letter with a 5€ note to e.g. Switzerland). And it's not really about the price, I'd ha...
It isn't tied to the account, the developers in the forums say so. It uses a zero-knowledge proof so the account and the payment aren't linked. |
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rumschlumpel
feddit.org
rumschlumpel@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
It isn't tied to the account, the developers in the forums say so. It uses a zero-knowledge proof so the account and the payment aren't linked.
That's neat if true, thanks. |
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etaoin
lemmy.blahaj.zone
etaoin@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-08-18 |
Oh a payment, how privacy-respecting. /s
Buy prepaid debit card with cash? |
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Another Catgirl
lemmy.blahaj.zone
anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Let me guess, I can only get this beta by being signed in to Google Play and enrolled in a beta program? Edit: yep...
why u need to be signed in to google? I wanna do it without google |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
why u need to be signed in to google? I wanna do it without google
Because Google will not give you the APK otherwise. |
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Another Catgirl
lemmy.blahaj.zone
anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Because Google will not give you the APK otherwise.
oh, but CalyxOS gave me the APK |
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