Link: https://sh.itjust.works/post/66840884

I've been posting things that Ethan Klein (host of the H3H3 Podcast) has said and done into the H3H3 Podcast community and the mod decided that relevant content wasn't good enough to participate.

I'll take my community ban and won't fight it, but it's the very definition of petty mod behavior.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/66840884

Mod: @surfrock66@lemmy.world

This was the comment that got me banned:

I clearly know enough about Ethan Klein and the H3H3 Podcast to be a participant in some form.

If what I’m posting is the truth, why is it such a problem to post it here? Doesn’t Ethan stand by what he says and does?

Seems like the mods just noticed you and hammered down lmao. I mean h3 gonna h3 what did you expect lmao!!

Sounds like dude wanted a fan club and doesnt want negative stuff posted there. Also seems like this compounds his frustrations over the community having few posters. PTB, if you can't take criticism from one poster in your public forum dont make it public.

They have all the tools to make it so they are the only user allowed to post. I think they're delusional to think that there are many H3H3 fans on Lemmy of all places, but I would have never bothered them if it was a closed community.

I mean h3 gonna h3 what did you expect lmao

This mod is keeping the tradition alive, I guess hahah

Also how much do you actually post there? He was cryin' like it was every day but I could only find 2 posts before I gave up it was so far back. You live rent free in that guy's head.

It was maybe once a week or so and I started kinda recently. Mostly updates on Ethan Klein's lawsuits against other youtubers and then a compilation of clips from the podcast.

Wild, living rent free in that Moe's head for tiny reasons.

Wow so now my inbox is getting brigaded because you came into a community about a podcast to shit post about the host. You can not like ethan, that's fine. You can criticize the content of the podcast (especially current episodes, not a cherry picking of stuff from half a decade ago), that's fine. But I asked you politely for days to find another place for personal criticism of a person instead of cherry-picking specifically aligned talking points, and you did the cowardly "I'm just posting things he said, what's wrong with things he said?" You don't participate in the podcast, you're coming in overlapping with a crowd that HAS crossed from criticism to harassment, and I'm squashing it before it spirals. If you hate the podcast, block the community and go about your day. Don't go crying about it and spreading my name to people who think they're freedom fighters by spamming my inbox.

That's the comment I hit the ban button about, but the entire thread is the evidence. Which is posted in the ban message. You have selective attention to try to farm outrage, it colors what you say and what you hear, and I think you follow a pattern that is actively participating in the decline of discourse, where you pick a side then selectively use things to just reinforce your incorrect points.

Edit: Providing context, I assumed people would follow the link in the posted ban message: https://lemmy.world/post/51982261

you can go cry censorship in whatever circle-jerk space you land in.

Hey, I'm just doing what you told me to do.

You can not like ethan, that’s fine.

Clearly that is not fine.

not a cherry picking of stuff from half a decade ago)

Like Ethan did with Macklemore?

You don’t participate in the podcast

You don't know that.

you’re coming in overlapping with a crowd that HAS crossed from criticism to harassment

Where am I harassing anyone by posting in the community?

, where you pick a side then selectively use things to just reinforce your incorrect points.

If my points are incorrect, feel free to correct them. You said yourself that what I was saying wasn't untrue:

I didn’t say what you said was untrue

I'm blocking you because this is absurd, and thanks for linking my account so I could get a "KYS Power tripper" message in my inbox which I reported. This is the mentality that gets CPS called to harass kids, and has skulls sent to houses.

Got a screenshot of that or are we just taking your word that it happened?

Oh that's gold. Wow Velma, didn't know you were like that. Where's my death threat?

I didn't send a death threat and I resent being labelled as such.

Oh well, that's too bad. People really shouldn't make assumptions like that.

The irony whistled right over Velmas head

Sounds more like a call to action than a death threat, not that it matters much

This user is stalking me and blaming me for @surfrock66@lemmy.world getting a "KYS" message.

Velma didn't do it; I get a lot of drive-by hate just for liking the H3 podcast, but the post here linking to my account caused someone else to send it. I get like 4-5 of them a week, usually "I'm a baby killer" or "I murder Palestenian babies" or whatever. The one today just linked here.

how is the podcast host relevant to the podcast?

Seriously?

I guess Ethan is a Zionist? I’m not plugged into the YouTube creator/influencer world but I have a vague idea of who he is

I guess Ethan is a Zionist?

Yes.

Aight, nobody is going to like this response.

This isn't PTB, but it isn't YDI either.

The mod in question gave a clear and valid reason for taking action. While I don't personally agree that it's the best specific action to take (a temp ban would have been the appropriate step imo), it is perfectly acceptable to insist on a fan club atmosphere in what amounts to a fan club community. Is lemmy/fediverse the best place for a fan club forum? Hell no, but it is the least bad place that's publicly accessible.

However, your comments and posts were also perfectly acceptable when using a community on the fediverse. The c/ is hosted here, is public, and you were on topic. As I already said, if the mod in question had taken other steps first, it is possible that you would have left the community on your own, so this isn't a case of someone being a bad actor, or at least not in a way I can see. That means no YDI.

The other acronyms don't apply here either. It isn't an ESH imo. This would be a "people sometimes don't fit other's expectations" PSDFOE. Nobody was an asshole that I could see. Nobody was doing anything just to fuck with other people.

He's said he thinks what Israel is doing is a genocide, and he thinks west bank settlers are valid military targets. He has actually voted against Bibi as a dual Israeli citizen.

That being said, he's Jewish, his wife grew up in Israel including mandatory IDF service, and he was upset at Hamas after the October 7 attacks which directly impacted his family, so to the "leftist" community he's a zionist, pedophile, baby killer, yadda yadda. It's proof that the internet has lost the ability to appreciate complex nuanced takes, especially around Jewish people.

That's like asking how a building's foundation is relevant to its structural integrity. The host makes and well... hosts the podcast, they couldn't be any more relevant to their podcast. Just like how without a foundation you don't have a building.

a building can be beautiful without a foundation, it will just be highly unstable. The same is more or less true of podcasts, take alex jones's turn the frogs gay clip as an example of a great piece of media that is almost entirety independent of the author.

And if Jones hadn't hosted said podcast to make such a statement to clip, then said clip wouldn't exist in the first place. The host is still relevant either way, so your argument does not make sense.

mod really sounds like he's having a bad day i think. feed him italian wedding soup.

I wish there was a snark community on lemmy, but probably no one would want to create one just for Ethan to sue them into oblivion.

This ain’t no thing - in my opinion. I think it boils down to people having different levels of netiquette.

Men want to comment on women’s communities… bigots want to abuse Blahaj… people get on their moral high horse over literal shitposts… people want to speak bad in fan communities… etc etc

We’re not all welcome everywhere. For differing reasons.

Don’t folk sometime look around a community, read the room, and then think that, actually, perhaps this community ain’t for me?

I’m certainly thinking about it after this hahaha

Psssstt - I did it

https://sh.itjust.works/c/LeftoversH3

For the record, the main link in the post leads to the full discussion. I don't think additional context is helping you out here.

Hell yeah, you go Velma! Subbed. I miss the h3snark subreddit so much. Looking forward to getting this new com going with you!!! 😁

It's one of two subreddits I still keep tabs on, the users there are so funny and empathetic and snarky haha. Happy to have you join in!

Just to clarify - do you think I posted this in support of Ethan Klein?

Sorry my bad. Deleted.

PTB.

I like the energy though :)

Except it's been dead for a year ever since Ethan threatened/brought legal action against the mods, right?

There's a new one!

They're even more ruthless there. And be sure to check out the daily Megathread! It's a mix of criticizing H3H3, following Hasan's stuff, and users sharing their pet pics. It's kinda nice!

Oh damn I've been missing out! Tysm

Looks like he wanted a fan club but instead got a community about H3H3.

Shout out to the power trippin mod that banned me so now I'm petty enough to make my own community to track Ethan Klein's deplorable actions here on Lemmy.

Thanks, babe <3

And just like on Reddit, their ban has now led to the creation of a snark community specifically to document Ethan Klein and his obsession with raping little boys, spreading hasbara, and harassing people.

I haven't been paying much attention to H3 or other political influencers, because they seem to all have something terrible going on. This fiasco on Lemmy exposed me to H3's current take over Ed Sheeran's debacle. I didn't realize H3 is really leaning into the Zionist side now.

I didn’t realize H3 is really leaning into the Zionist side now.

Yeah they're full Zionist after the failed attempt at doing a podcast with Hasan Piker called The Leftovers. Ethan went all in on the hasbara after Oct 7 and has become completely obsessed with taking down Hasan and attacking those on the left.

It's funny that the H3H3 community mod banning me has exposed more of Ethan's bullshit on Lemmy.

It's like walking into a gay bar and complaining why there are gay people there. There is a reason why these types of communities existed, with an echo chamber moniker on reddit, and now on Lemmy.

And some lemmy instances are just too conservative, like .world, but it's not overtly noticeable.

Tbf, the community was about the H3H3 podcast and I was posting about the H3H3 podcast.

I had absolutely no idea about any of this til now as well, so the Streisand Effect is doing its job! A hearty "fuck you" to Ethan Klein and his ilk.