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Source: https://newrepublic.com/article/160448/meat-bestiality-artificial-insemination

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applebusch (she/her) lemmy.blahaj.zone applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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usernamesAreTricky lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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This an industry that does not really care all that much about workers or farm animals. If it "works", there's little incentives for the industry to switch

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Berengaria_of_Navarre lemmy.world Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
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You suggesting they go to town on a cow with a bad dragon?

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Xavarox pawb.social Xavarox@pawb.social
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Does someone speak dumb wolf language so that I could understand what is said? OuO

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cheat700000007 lemmy.world cheat700000007@lemmy.world
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They have to extract the semen in the first place too

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usernamesAreTricky lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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Does someone speak dumb wolf language so that I could understand what is said? OuO

First, states have ban on bestiality. Industry somewhat neutral at first, but then the industry start to want to artificially insemination. For several reasons. Farm animals can be resistant of their attempts to force them to mate and artificial insemination makes it harder for them to avoid. Animal farmers want to have fewer male farm animals since it's cheaper to kill them than to pay to raise them. Farmers also want to be able to better artificially select genes meaning more "productivity" (higher slaughter weight, more milk production, more egg production, etc.) even if at the expense of their health. The dairy industry especially wants this because they have to keep a cow pregnant constantly to produce milk

Process to collect semen for artificial insemination requires restraining farm animal and then forcibly jerking them off, electrically simulating, or similar. Process to inseminate requires restraining cow and then putting hand up their genitals to keep them pregnant.

No way to collect semen for artificial insemination without removing ban on bestiality since both ends of it break those law. So they lobby hard to add an exemption for themselves

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Xavarox pawb.social Xavarox@pawb.social
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First, states have ban on bestiality. Industry somewhat neutral at first, but then the industry start to want to artificially insemination. For several reasons. Farm animals can be resistant of their attempts to force them to mate and artificial insemination makes it harder for them to avoid. Animal farmers want to have fewer male farm animals since it's cheaper to kill them than to pay to rais...

I had a quick read about it within my country and it is legal, but only if a veterinarian deems a female dog (for example) not to be able to reproduce in a natural way with another male dog.

So it seems they try to use natural Intercourse asfar as it goes before AI is needed and even then, a vet has to declare it's okay on every animal separately.

Though was a bit unclear on how it worked on an industrial level. During the years, the laws tightened from just needing some experience to actually needing a vet with a certain insemination subject within his/her grades when finishing university. So it gets stricter as time goes on ^^

Hope it'll get better in america. The world can only develop as fast as the slowest person.

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Aeao lemmy.world Aeao@lemmy.world
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First, states have ban on bestiality. Industry somewhat neutral at first, but then the industry start to want to artificially insemination. For several reasons. Farm animals can be resistant of their attempts to force them to mate and artificial insemination makes it harder for them to avoid. Animal farmers want to have fewer male farm animals since it's cheaper to kill them than to pay to rais...

I’ve seen a video where the female horse kicks the stallion in the face and seems to kill it. So I have to imagine if you have a valuable horses it might be safer to do it artificially as well.

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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First, states have ban on bestiality. Industry somewhat neutral at first, but then the industry start to want to artificially insemination. For several reasons. Farm animals can be resistant of their attempts to force them to mate and artificial insemination makes it harder for them to avoid. Animal farmers want to have fewer male farm animals since it's cheaper to kill them than to pay to rais...

they have to keep a cow pregnant constantly to produce milk

exaggeration doesn't help your credibility

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yetAnotherUser lemmy.ca yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca
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First, states have ban on bestiality. Industry somewhat neutral at first, but then the industry start to want to artificially insemination. For several reasons. Farm animals can be resistant of their attempts to force them to mate and artificial insemination makes it harder for them to avoid. Animal farmers want to have fewer male farm animals since it's cheaper to kill them than to pay to rais...

Good job on the explanation!

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funkless_eck sh.itjust.works funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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they have to keep a cow pregnant constantly to produce milk exaggeration doesn't help your credibility

It's not really an exaggeration when the cows get an average of 3 months a year "off" being pregnant, and are killed around the age of 6 years old when past their prime milking age.

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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It's not really an exaggeration when the cows get an average of 3 months a year "off" being pregnant, and are killed around the age of 6 years old when past their prime milking age.

you seem to understand exactly what was exaggerated

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QuantumSparkles sh.itjust.works QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works
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#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

They have to extract the semen in the first place too

The hardest part is jacking off the bull to completion with both hands

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funkless_eck sh.itjust.works funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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you seem to understand exactly what was exaggerated

What's your definition of "constantly pregnant"?

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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What's your definition of "constantly pregnant"?

I didn't care for your semantic interrogation. it's obvious the user was exaggerating for effect.

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NEZ27 lemmy.zip NEZ27@lemmy.zip
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I didn't care for your semantic interrogation. it's obvious the user was exaggerating for effect.

How you gonna quibble over semantics then tell them off for semantic interrogation?

Something being pregnant for 75% of its life is pretty constant.

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BoosBeau lemmy.world BoosBeau@lemmy.world
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You suggesting they go to town on a cow with a bad dragon?

I kept offering to do the job up until the restraining order

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usernamesAreTricky lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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I had a quick read about it within my country and it is legal, but only if a veterinarian deems a female dog (for example) not to be able to reproduce in a natural way with another male dog. So it seems they try to use natural Intercourse asfar as it goes before AI is needed and even then, a vet has to declare it's okay on every animal separately. Though was a bit unclear on how it worked on an...

Neither practice is exactly great, to be clear. The industry does not exactly take cows, pigs, sheeps attempt to say no to mating into account no matter them method. When it's not artificial insemination, they're still holding them down to keep them from leaving

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usernamesAreTricky lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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they have to keep a cow pregnant constantly to produce milk exaggeration doesn't help your credibility

I meant constantly as in the second dictionary definition of happening super frequently

2 : with regular occurrence

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/constantly

The broader point was impregnated many times. Having a few months "off" does not make much of a difference to that point

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usernamesAreTricky lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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I’ve seen a video where the female horse kicks the stallion in the face and seems to kill it. So I have to imagine if you have a valuable horses it might be safer to do it artificially as well.

Safer in so far as it gives them little room to say no and make bigger resistance attempts. Neither method exactly is exactly great, to be clear, but neither has to happen. It's something we're choosing to make happen by making this an industry in the first place

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usernamesAreTricky lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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Good job on the explanation!

Thank you, thank you

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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How you gonna quibble over semantics then tell them off for semantic interrogation? Something being pregnant for 75% of its life is pretty constant.

it's not 75% of their lives, either. they're not able to breed when they're calves.

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Berengaria_of_Navarre lemmy.world Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
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Relevant vice documentary CW: it's literally about people fucking donkeys.

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NEZ27 lemmy.zip NEZ27@lemmy.zip
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it's not 75% of their lives, either. they're not able to breed when they're calves.

Senor Semantics does it again!

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Senor Semantics does it again!

75% isn't semantics. it's a statistic.

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killingspark feddit.org killingspark@feddit.org
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The hardest part is jacking off the bull to completion with both hands

I forgot how exactly the relevant silicon valley reference goes and I'm not googling it. Just imagine I did a clever reference about jacking off as many dicks as possible as efficiently as possible

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NEZ27 lemmy.zip NEZ27@lemmy.zip
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#28 · (edited) Quote Reply

75% isn't semantics. it's a statistic.

You just said it wasn't 75%.

And quibbling over what constitutes 'most of' something's life is semantics. I reckon plenty of folks would view anything over 50% would likely constitute 'most of'.

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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You just said it wasn't 75%. And quibbling over what constitutes 'most of' something's life is semantics. I reckon plenty of folks would view anything over 50% would likely constitute 'most of'.

I said it's not 75% because the other user claimed it is. it's not semantics.

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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You just said it wasn't 75%. And quibbling over what constitutes 'most of' something's life is semantics. I reckon plenty of folks would view anything over 50% would likely constitute 'most of'.

I never said anything about "most of".

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NEZ27 lemmy.zip NEZ27@lemmy.zip
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I never said anything about "most of".

'constantly' then

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core lemmy.blahaj.zone core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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'constantly' then

let me know when you figure out which semantic argument I'm going to be ignoring

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NEZ27 lemmy.zip NEZ27@lemmy.zip
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let me know when you figure out which semantic argument I'm going to be ignoring

I know how pedants work. You're not really making a point, just being obtuse for the sake of it.

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