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Sunshine
piefed.ca
Sunshine@piefed.caJoined: 2025-06-07 |
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reddig33
lemmy.world
reddig33@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
“Finding a single module that's unhealthy and swapping it out, though, is much harder than just replacing the entire battery.” To me, this is the design failure. You shouldn’t have to replace the entire pack when one cell fails. |
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Trex
lemmy.world
Trex202@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-03 |
Not hard at all, they "other ways" that its harder is that the battery can be 1800 lbs and needs a proper lift. Undo electrical cables, undo coolant hoses, unbolt battery and drop it down. Reverse with new |
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EggZackLee
lemmy.today
EggZackLee@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-08-16 |
“Finding a single module that's unhealthy and swapping it out, though, is much harder than just replacing the entire battery.” To me, this is the design failure. You shouldn’t have to replace the entire pack when one cell fails.
Design failure or design intent? |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
“Finding a single module that's unhealthy and swapping it out, though, is much harder than just replacing the entire battery.” To me, this is the design failure. You shouldn’t have to replace the entire pack when one cell fails.
You should see the Teslas. All the cells are sealed in with a thick foam. Only way to recycle them is to send them to the shredder. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
Not hard at all, they "other ways" that its harder is that the battery can be 1800 lbs and needs a proper lift. Undo electrical cables, undo coolant hoses, unbolt battery and drop it down. Reverse with new
Its how most EVs work. |
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baldingpudenda
lemmy.world
baldingpudenda@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
“Finding a single module that's unhealthy and swapping it out, though, is much harder than just replacing the entire battery.” To me, this is the design failure. You shouldn’t have to replace the entire pack when one cell fails.
They could build them in small packs like swappable batteries in scooters. Then when there's bad individual cells you can unbolt that smaller pack and either get it replaced or pull it open and find the bad cell. Unfortunately, they are already engineering ICE vehicles to be so convoluted and tightly packed that a common wear item like a battery needs an hour removing shit that's in the way. They are trying to force you to go to the dealer to get it done. I think it was a Chevy truck that had the battery tucked partially under the intake and some plastic moulding under the windshield. |
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adhocfungus
midwest.social
adhocfungus@midwest.social Joined: 2023-08-03 |
“Finding a single module that's unhealthy and swapping it out, though, is much harder than just replacing the entire battery.” To me, this is the design failure. You shouldn’t have to replace the entire pack when one cell fails.
Things must have changed with full EVs. I know a guy who tests and selectively replaces the modules in old Priuses. He only does a full replacement if someone specifically requests it. |
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dorkage
lemmy.ca
dorkage@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Its how most EVs work.
Except my RAV4 Prime 😭 Refrigerant into the battery for some unknown reason. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Design failure or design intent?
Intent. Tesla packs their cells in expanding foam, then makes the pack structural to the car. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
Except my RAV4 Prime 😭 Refrigerant into the battery for some unknown reason.
Because the battery is cooled! |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
“Finding a single module that's unhealthy and swapping it out, though, is much harder than just replacing the entire battery.” To me, this is the design failure. You shouldn’t have to replace the entire pack when one cell fails.
This is Detroit's dream, make cars like iPhones. Disposable as soon as payments end. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Because the battery is cooled!
But batteries are cooled with coolants. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
But batteries are cooled with coolants.
Not yours. |
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dorkage
lemmy.ca
dorkage@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Because the battery is cooled!
Everyone uses coolant not refrigerant which requires a license to touch |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
They could build them in small packs like swappable batteries in scooters. Then when there's bad individual cells you can unbolt that smaller pack and either get it replaced or pull it open and find the bad cell. Unfortunately, they are already engineering ICE vehicles to be so convoluted and tightly packed that a common wear item like a battery needs an hour removing shit that's in the way. Th...
For years, to get to the battery on some Chryslers, you had to remove the front wheel and inner fender. Chrysler was innovative at enshittification. |
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dorkage
lemmy.ca
dorkage@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-15 |
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dismay3915
lemmy.world
dismay3915@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-15 |
“Finding a single module that's unhealthy and swapping it out, though, is much harder than just replacing the entire battery.” To me, this is the design failure. You shouldn’t have to replace the entire pack when one cell fails.
How do the corporations make money then? |
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