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Microsoft exec called AI scraping ‘the largest theft of labor in human history,’ new unredacted filings reveal
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Arthur Besse lemmy.ml cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
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Ensign_Crab lemmy.world Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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While AI scraping is a massive theft of labor, I think chattel slavery has this beat.

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auzy1 lemmy.world auzy1@lemmy.world
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That's why they're so popular with large companies.

Legalized way to steal and sell your work

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Kirp123 lemmy.world Kirp123@lemmy.world
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He's not wrong.

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BananaTrifleViolin lemmy.world BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
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That's why they're so popular with large companies. Legalized way to steal and sell your work

I really dont understand how the copyright laws can be so aggressive as to pursue individuals downloading songs or movies, but totally ineffectual against companies stealing huge volumes of data from all over the place, and repackaging it in LLMs etc. So bizarre.

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jrs100000 lemmy.world jrs100000@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
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I really dont understand how the copyright laws can be so aggressive as to pursue individuals downloading songs or movies, but totally ineffectual against companies stealing huge volumes of data from all over the place, and repackaging it in LLMs etc. So bizarre.

No its really very simple. Do you have a legal department: y/n.

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auzy1 lemmy.world auzy1@lemmy.world
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I really dont understand how the copyright laws can be so aggressive as to pursue individuals downloading songs or movies, but totally ineffectual against companies stealing huge volumes of data from all over the place, and repackaging it in LLMs etc. So bizarre.

Quite easy. It's like my grade 5 essays which I didn't copy off Encarta, and changed a few words.

Plus, if you call it AI and add blinky words like "thinking" you can dodge it too

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
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I really dont understand how the copyright laws can be so aggressive as to pursue individuals downloading songs or movies, but totally ineffectual against companies stealing huge volumes of data from all over the place, and repackaging it in LLMs etc. So bizarre.

Yeah, it$ $uper confu$ing. I'm not really $ure why $ome can get away with it, while other$ have their live$ de$troyed for it.

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kibiz0r midwest.social kibiz0r@midwest.social
Joined: 2023-07-14
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While AI scraping is a massive theft of labor, I think chattel slavery has this beat.

I’m not sure they can be compared fairly. Slavery and AI scraping do both have “unpaid labor” in common. But “unpaid labor” is hardly the most horrific feature of either of them. And to reduce them down to that metric so they can be compared ends up downplaying the unique horrors of each.

I think the important part to take from the quote is that: he knew it was wrong, he knew the degree to which it was wrong was extreme, and he knew it was wrong in a particular way that the world hasn’t seen before.

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distal lemmy.ml distal@lemmy.ml
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Bastards

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onlinepersona programming.dev onlinepersona@programming.dev
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Pot

Kettle

Black

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ghost_laptop lemmy.ml gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-11-25
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I really dont understand how the copyright laws can be so aggressive as to pursue individuals downloading songs or movies, but totally ineffectual against companies stealing huge volumes of data from all over the place, and repackaging it in LLMs etc. So bizarre.

because that's how bourgeois democracy works. it's not really democracy, it's just the parasite class ruling the proles.

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SocialistVibes01 lemmy.ml SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-30
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Those fuckers do read Marx, to our dismay.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-10
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I really dont understand how the copyright laws can be so aggressive as to pursue individuals downloading songs or movies, but totally ineffectual against companies stealing huge volumes of data from all over the place, and repackaging it in LLMs etc. So bizarre.

Law is class power.

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hobata lemmy.ml hobata@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-05-06
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oh, those stupid microsoft fucks. 40 years ago, billy didn't understand what theft was either. nothing's changed.

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DetachablePianist lemmy.ml DetachablePianist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-13
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I really dont understand how the copyright laws can be so aggressive as to pursue individuals downloading songs or movies, but totally ineffectual against companies stealing huge volumes of data from all over the place, and repackaging it in LLMs etc. So bizarre.

"laws for thee but not for me"

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