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gedaliyah lemmy.world gedaliyah@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
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I've recently had a request for tagging or adding a rule about tagging AI-generated and AI-assisted software.

Different communities have handled this differently, for example this decision after significant discussion by the selfhosted community.

What do you think? Would you like to see similar policy here? Something simpler that just shows whether something was produced primarily/significantly with AI, or something else entirely?

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Zedstrian sopuli.xyz Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-03-30
#2 · Quote Reply

Users should be informed in one way or another if a prospective Lemmy app was developed with the assistance of AI; noting that fact in the post title or body is more straightforward than expecting users to scan a repository for indicators of such use.

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hendrik palaver.p3x.de hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
Joined: 2021-08-21
#3 · Quote Reply

Since a lot of people here factor that in with their decisions... I think it makes it easier if we add more transparency. Saves time looking that up myself. And if there's a prominent tag, here's also less need to downvote something.

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TheOrcWhoWrites lemmy.world HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-27
#4 · Quote Reply

Everything made with AI should be labeled as such. This is how it should have been from the beginning.

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Harvey656 Moderator Harvey656@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#5 · Quote Reply

Whole heartedly agree. We've had one user recently go transparent with their app and it went over quite well. I think those who use AI tools will find more respect in a simple "made with the assistance of AI" in their post, or a simple "AI" tag catch all.

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ProdigalFrog slrpnk.net ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-07-04
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'd personally strongly advocate for outright not allowing AI made apps to be posted, for these reasons:

  1. Simply using an AI that's run on a corporate data centers encourages the construction of yet more data centers, with all of the environmental/climate negatives they bring, as well as local harms they induce on the people living near them, such as increased electricity rates.

  2. Using corporate AI directly helps the financial situations of those giant corporations (by boosting usage/user numbers, they are able to attract more investment capital), most of which are ran by right-wing CEOs who are more than willing to collaborate with and fund fascist governments to ensure that they are not regulated in search of both maximum profits. Some of these companies, such as Nvidia, Palantir and Oracle, genuinely appear to be seeking to use these tools for what would previously be considered crackpot conspiracy theory levels of public control and surveillance.

  3. I'm wary of the potential effects of AI usage resulting in declining or stagnating critical thinking based on some preliminary studies (example 1, example 2).

  4. I do not think LLMs can be "just a tool" as many claim.

  5. 99% of LLMs (the ones virtually everyone use) are trained on copyrighted code that is incompatible with GPL licensed projects. LLMs have a 3 to 10% chance to unknowingly reproduce the copyrighted code perfectly, introducing legal plagiarism into an open-source project, which could easily open up the developers to being sued in the future if companies scanned open source repos for copyright violations.

  6. Many courts are ruling that LLM generated code cannot be copyrighted at all, meaning that it also cannot be legally made GPL, losing the protections from corporate exploration the GPL normally grants. https://fsfe.org/news/2026/news-20260825-01.html

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
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Everything made with AI should be labeled as such. This is how it should have been from the beginning.

Your user name always gives me a good chuckle.

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#8 · Quote Reply

I'd personally strongly advocate for outright not allowing AI made apps to be posted, for these reasons: Simply using an AI that's run on a corporate data centers encourages the construction of yet more data centers, with all of the environmental/climate negatives they bring, as well as local harms they induce on the people living near them, such as increased electricity rates. Using corporate ...

LLM's

LLMs.

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#9 · Quote Reply

Everything made with AI should be labeled as such. This is how it should have been from the beginning.

Ah. But

  • made by Ai
  • made from AI; or
  • made WITH Ai?

Some of them have been around for a while already. Depending on your definition, anti-lock brakes and spell check qualify.

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ProdigalFrog slrpnk.net ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-07-04
#10 · Quote Reply

LLM's LLMs.

Quite right, thanks for pointing that out.

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#11 · Quote Reply

Quite right, thanks for pointing that out.

While we are at it... CEOs as well.

Joking aside, saving your comment for future reference. Great thoughts here.

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ProdigalFrog slrpnk.net ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-07-04
#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

While we are at it... CEOs as well. Joking aside, saving your comment for future reference. Great thoughts here.

While we are at it… CEOs as well.

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GarboDog lemmy.world GarboDog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-12
#13 · Quote Reply

Ai, in our Lemmy?! Uhh no thanks

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#14 · Quote Reply

While we are at it… CEOs as well.

I only pointed it out because someone pointed out the LLMs.

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Zaktor sopuli.xyz Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-08-22
#15 · Quote Reply

I like the selfhosted categorical tagging. For those who AI use is not a black and white issue it gives clarity to the extent. A fully vibe coded app is different from something that uses it to generate a common component and both are different from one that uses it only for documentation.

I also wouldn't be against banning it altogether for ethical reasons related to violating open source licenses, but tags let everyone make their own ethical decisions.

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TheOrcWhoWrites lemmy.world HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-27
#16 · Quote Reply

Ah. But made by Ai made from AI; or made WITH Ai? Some of them have been around for a while already. Depending on your definition, anti-lock brakes and spell check qualify.

I would say all three.

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ProdigalFrog slrpnk.net ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-07-04
#17 · Quote Reply

I only pointed it out because someone pointed out the LLMs.

No worries noc, I meant it in a playful way, thought it'd be funny since I missed that one too :p

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TheOrcWhoWrites lemmy.world HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-27
#18 · Quote Reply

Your user name always gives me a good chuckle.

I changed my username a long time ago but the summit app displays it differently to different people. What do you see it as?

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#19 · Quote Reply

I changed my username a long time ago but the summit app displays it differently to different people. What do you see it as?

@HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#20 · Quote Reply

No worries noc, I meant it in a playful way, thought it'd be funny since I missed that one too :p

I took it in a playful way.

But your original comment put my feelings on ai into words. I sent it to my wife who is taking an ethics in science class, they are currently discussing when using ai is acceptable.

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TheOrcWhoWrites lemmy.world HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-27
#21 · Quote Reply

@HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world

Yea I tried to change that .I got tired of that username but it's origin is a double meaning. I used to also have a blog named as such until WordPress caught me using two accounts and deleted my whole blog. It had all may are on it too.

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#22 · Quote Reply

Yea I tried to change that .I got tired of that username but it's origin is a double meaning. I used to also have a blog named as such until WordPress caught me using two accounts and deleted my whole blog. It had all may are on it too.

The only way to change your user name is to start a new account. You can change your display name, which I see you did. But the user name cannot be changed.

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ProdigalFrog slrpnk.net ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-07-04
#23 · Quote Reply

I took it in a playful way. But your original comment put my feelings on ai into words. I sent it to my wife who is taking an ethics in science class, they are currently discussing when using ai is acceptable.

That's awesome! I hope she finds those sources helpful, I've been nabbing em from all around the threadiverse for a while now :)

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TheOrcWhoWrites lemmy.world HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-27
#24 · Quote Reply

The only way to change your user name is to start a new account. You can change your display name, which I see you did. But the user name cannot be changed.

Ohhhhhhh. That makes more sense.

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