I use CachyOS BTW 🚀

The way I understood the gain of the performance optimization of the scheduler as explained on the cachyOS page is that UI may feel more responsive

The way i experience it is that its a lot harder to fuck up a cachyos installation than it is to fuck up base arch...

Thus improving performance (anecdotally)

I don't care one bit about all of the supposed performance optimizations in CachyOS.

It is SO DANG EASY. It just works.

I like CachyOS and it's my go to if I want to use Arch. Everytime I install Arch I always forget something, always. so then it's trying to remember what I did the last time to get something to work correctly. With CachyOS it's just good to go for me. and they've really improved the install process and cut out A LOT of bloat. Before it would take forever to install Cachy but now it's quick and the only thing I really have to remove when it's done is alacritty and firefox. Paired with KDE it's smooth sailing and great performance.

Yeah this is the real reason I prefer it. A sane installer, auto installing Nvidia drivers, auto setting up Snapper, a good GUI package manager that actually manages everything.

The customized kernel, and performance boosts that may or may not actually exist are just a bonus.

That is true, Arch performance is technically at zero when I'm staring at Terminal for 3 hours.

Yes, I think it may have cured my distro hopping. I was on Fedora KDE the longest besides Cachy, but there's a lot of little things that I like better.

It’s up to you, do you want to make your pizza from scratch or do you want it made for you? Since I’m so bad at making my own pizza (often burn it), I choose to have it made for me.

Where's Manjaro?

I've installed arch a couple times. I think it's helpful do a few times at least so you know how things work.

Now I just use endeavoros though.

Easy is dangerous. It gave us abusable defaults. It gives us windows and macOS. And turned into a hostage situation.

Linux works because the second someone gets bitchy, you can migrate. Even the components can’t tie you down. Bcachefs was so cool and really promising, but Kent had a psychotic break and we just moved away and didn’t get sucked into his gravity well. Imagine that situation on windows. “Well, copilot is is everything and NVMe drives can explode randomly now.”

We don’t talk about Bruno.

It is a good educational experience, especially if you want to do sysadmin adjacent stuff.

Manjaro is Patrick when he had a job at the Krusty Krab and was trying to sweep with the wrong end of the broom.

I like Cachy. It runs on my AMD Framework 13. Arch runs on my desktop, and I have reached an equilibrium where it's stable enough to for me to ignore the occasional crash or complete freeze up (which is audio related and rare enough that I just don't care to try to fix atm).

Actually now that I think about it, I haven't had a audio lockup since I swapped to using my video card's audio. So maybe I have a defective audio chip on my motherboard. 🤷

Good question, let me check real quick...

Oh. I can't. They forgot to renew their website's SSL certificate for the 9th time.

I see people talking about ease of use as if there are no Arch-based distros that do that already, is all

In fairness, Manjaro was one of the first ones to be that. And their 2 week waiting period for updates seems like a solid middle ground. The problem is, they don't actually test those updates much, and if there is a breaking change on Arch, it's usually on Manjaro as well, just 2 weeks later. This is not only pointless, but can cause additional dependency issues from being out of date, especially if you use the AUR, because AUR is rolling release and expects up to date Arch dependencies.

Also sorry if I came off harsh earlier, I'm just poking fun at everyone in this thread, even myself as a CachyOS user.

no worries, and thanks for the explanation

which is audio related

flaskbacks intensify

I've never has freezes, but I fought my pipewire for a long time over chopped-up audio. I believe some kernel flag for real-time interrupt handling solved the issue at last, which I found on some audio forum after three evenings' worth of tinkering and fiddling and eventually scouring the internet when I accepted I wouldn't figure it out on my own. IDK if it's of any use to you, but I can dig it out if you'd like.

I'm not even sure what kind of distro cachy is, some kind of gaming optimised?

CachyOS

Arch

Oh man thanks that would actually be delightful. Whenever you got time, I'd appreciate whatever fix helped. Even if it doesn't solve the problem directly, it might put me on the right path.

It has a customized kernel that supposedly improves performance. Well that, and it actually has a better installer than arch-install imo

When I used Arch on my laptop, my computer would randomly refuse to boot up at random and I had to manually fix it by booting into the installation media. After switching to Cachy I've never had to do that. I don't know what black magic Cachy had to fix that problem, but I've never switched back, lol

especially if you use the AUR

Which you do by default even without knowing it as Manjaro comes with an AUR helper pre-installed and also skips all the "this is user generated content; use at own risk"-warnings an Arch user would find in the wiki when trying to install something from the AUR.

OS tribalism again 🙄

I honestly can't see a single advantage of Cachy over Endevour, as the performance boosts seem to have no real effect on any if my hardware.

I think this was the one:

https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/system_configuration

I added threadirq to the launch options as described under "Using the threadirqs kernel option", which solved it for me, but you'll probably want to read the whole page anyway.

But sometimes, it's nice to slap a few extra slices of something on that pre-made frozen pizza. 🫳🧅🧄🥓

It also uses optimization flags for their repositories, which results in better performance as well but drops support for CPUs older than i4?

It has a GUI package manager? :-O

No, it is separated repos:

• generic which works everywhere and
• v3
• v4

Shelly yes and they actively develop it with integrations of flatpak aur appimage and native packages

I use Mint btw.

Friendlier defaults, graphical package manager included out of the box, some tasks will benefit from packages that can use the instructions on your cpu. I can't see a single advantage of Endeavour over Cachy.

That said they are both very similar.

Nothing you just said was an argument against user friendly software. The Windows and Mac hostage situation was created by familiarity and walled gardens, and is solved by Linux becoming easier to use.

I thought it was Octopi?

Spoken like a (insert your distro) user. Stone them!

If I want a Linux box that can function as a home server but also fire up Steam and play using my old 970 if I want to, does cachy fit?

Any popular Linux distro fits. I'd go with mint

Yes.

Out of the box Mint is terrible for gaming.

Changed to Shelly in a recent update.

Boooo throws rocks

I thought gaming on Linux is literally just installing steam and you're good to go?

I will study this page like my entire academic career hinges on it and I'm a ritalin-addled undergrad.

Despite the fact that I graduated 18 years ago. Thank you.