I’ve gotten very into self-hosting (on device, not on a server) my own search engine, but searxng is unbearably clunky to make run on my Gentoo OpenRC machine. Two projects stuck out, 4get and omnisearch, but which of these do you think is the best and do you know other ones?

Xprivo

degoog comes to mind

Kagi is what I wound up going with

mind linking to it? duckduckgo literally returns 0 results and i'm not sure what you're referring to

not sure how private but i'm using duckduckgo, eTools.ch and 4get.ca these days

Never heard of it, do you have a link?

Sure. Here is the.link: https://www.xprivo.com/search

Hope this works.

https://uruky.com/

https://degoog.org/

Kagi's on top ! It's a few bucks per month, but search results are amazing, it surface small websites and block slop.

It even allows you to block useless websites like pinterest

Pretty please?

Why even bother commenting this if you’re not willing to elaborate?

Yacy has been around awhile. It can run solo or p2p

I don't have the answer to your qustion, but I like to occasionally consider that there is no such thing as a stupid action, only an action that I don't understand.

Why would someone talk like that?

Some possibilities:

1. To stem all future criticism of Kagi by making the first and the most at the time visible criticism sound braindead. Thus creating an association that all of criticism is braindead.
2. To use the reverse psychology to promote Kagi. You say it sucks, and you don't think it's worth your time to even explain it? Well, I am a rebel, so as a fuck you, I will use Kagi.
3. To further lock in the attention and the mental resources on Kagi. Love it or hate it, be indifferent to it, but here we are thinking about Kagi. Kagi's profile has been raised.

These three immediately jump at me, because I see people preaching Kagi in a manner of an influence op.

So these negs could be part of the op.

Again. Not saying I know. I don't. And I likely won't use Kagi myself. It's just fun to speculate a bit.

LLM much?

That was not an LLM. That said, I do use a chatbot like once a week. Maybe some of their speegh patterns are rubbing off?

300 is low, i agree. but idk, if it's a free product, then YOU are the product. is my data still being used in ways that profit a few and invade my privacy? probably, but less than google i hope.

I am on the anti-AI side of things, by nature of being human. and yeah, there's some AI shit in kagi, as with seemingly all others. but it at least it's opt-in (i think). i've never seen it shoved in my face, which i can't say for example duckduckgo.

can't tell u what price is best for you, or what UI u prefer. but trash? no. google is trash.

https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo Just putting it out there.

Uruky is great.

Yes, it has been scientifically proven that you are getting dumber by using an LLM regularly to do your thinking for you. Congratulations.

I have heard Kagi just layers their own special sauce atop Google's index?

It is a unique service with a real value prop, I just want to make sure we are accurate here...

You DO realize that you're firing on your own team, right?

Let's not do that, here.
This is our community, it's what you and I make of it.

I am most definitely not on the same team as people that use chatbots so often they start to mimic their slop-style writing techniques. Worry about yourself, you don't get to decide what team I am on, tyvm.

Also, I am not "just being an ass", I am paraphrasing MIT scientific research.

I appreciate your honesty and you seem like you want to do your best. I'm sorry we aren't a more supportive group.

Once again, this place is your community and my community. You can build your people up or tear them down.

If you aren't here to build community then you should ask yourself what really feeds you.

dud they remove yandex? one of the few good search engines for content that doesn't follow the DMCA?

It may be good in some scenarios, but paying for it is unacceptable.

there is https://marginalia-search.com/

I'd say it's more private to anonymously use google or brave through a hardened web browser with a vpn than logged in to kagi account attached to your payment method.

https://hister.org/

Not a traditional search engine, but reduces the need for one on repeated searches. Your own web traffic is the crawling, saved and indexed locally for future lookups.

YaCy isn't just a peer-to-peer search-engine, it can be run as a non-connected private node as well. The operator decides whether they want to contribute to the larger peer-to-peer network, a private network or as a lone-node as a personal search-engine. However, any search-engine will struggle on lackluster hardware.

No one uses YaCy and no one ought to. I have a grudge against the developer for creating the worst search engine architecture known to everyone.

I've been building a search engine for rhe last year. Expect a Q4 release next year, who knows maybe even earlier.

You aren't "building community" either, you are dictating how other people are supposed to think while doing your level best to beat your moral high-horse to death. Stop putting people in boxes for them and get fucked with this cyber-hippy bullshit.

I'm still a very happy Kagi user tho, excellent search engine imo

It uses other sources, but filter SEO manipulation, websites with lots of ads and has it's own index too

Clocks

Can you expand upon this? I've tried to run YaCy before and I always seem to reach a point where the index becomes too large for my computer to handle, meaning YaCy will crash or refuse to start. I always put this down to my system not having enough ram though. Technically what do you dislike about the program?