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One more shot of a Great (Giza) Pyramid in its prime, as seen from the mighty Nile.
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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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Climates can change drastically across even just a few hundred years.

As I presently understand it, the initially fertile Nile-inundation that flooded the banks with precious crop-growing nutrients on a regular basis (for example in the time of Rameses II) slowed over the years, changing up certain equations upon many things. For example, once a jungle area slowly shifted to a desert area... that was arguably one of the long-form primary causes for the collapse of the once-mighty Egyptian Empire, after some thousands of years of primacy.

(later counterpart of sorts-- The Mayan Empire?)

And yet the Egyptian Empire was monumentally impressive in its prime, I would argue.

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TrackinDaKraken lemmy.world DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
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Gold leaf technique has been around for ~8000 years. The peak could have been gilded limestone.

Just because people will imagine that it's a solid block of gold at the top, which it obviously could not have been.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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Gold leaf technique has been around for ~8000 years. The peak could have been gilded limestone. Just because people will imagine that it's a solid block of gold at the top, which it obviously could not have been.

Yes, the pyramidion would almost certainly have been composed of an alloy, as I understand it. Quite possibly of silver, and other likely metals.

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ChicoSuave lemmy.world ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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The Egyptian climate has been basically the same for the last 5000 years so the idea of desertification causing their downfall is inaccurate.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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The Egyptian climate has been basically the same for the last 5000 years so the idea of desertification causing their downfall is inaccurate.

I'm not sure where I picked that up. Some literature, perhaps.

How would you better-phrase the situation?

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ChicoSuave lemmy.world ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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I'm not sure where I picked that up. Some literature, perhaps. How would you better-phrase the situation?

I wouldn't make the claim that Egypt died to climate change.

There were roughly 2 peaks of Egyptian history, 3500BC (Old Kingdom under Khufu) and in 1500BC (New Kingdom). The fall of Egypt was climate based - Egypt provided much of the wheat for the Mediterranean and there wasn't a forced shortage before the fall of the empire.

Egypt collapsed due to poor leadership and Roman invasion.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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I wouldn't make the claim that Egypt died to climate change. There were roughly 2 peaks of Egyptian history, 3500BC (Old Kingdom under Khufu) and in 1500BC (New Kingdom). The fall of Egypt was climate based - Egypt provided much of the wheat for the Mediterranean and there wasn't a forced shortage before the fall of the empire. Egypt collapsed due to poor leadership and Roman invasion.

The fall of Egypt was climate based

I mean...

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MrsDoyle sh.itjust.works MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works
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I wouldn't make the claim that Egypt died to climate change. There were roughly 2 peaks of Egyptian history, 3500BC (Old Kingdom under Khufu) and in 1500BC (New Kingdom). The fall of Egypt was climate based - Egypt provided much of the wheat for the Mediterranean and there wasn't a forced shortage before the fall of the empire. Egypt collapsed due to poor leadership and Roman invasion.

Also incest. I would argue that was the cause of a lot of the poor leadership - the later pharaohs were inbred, brothers and sisters marrying. Genetic disaster.

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