Link: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187#note_1648807

Some of the worst LLM takes I've seen in a while. I've never thought FLOSS would be taken over by proprietary torment nexuses so fast.

The discussion will probably continue behind closed doors, so the public has no way of knowing who says what and corporations have their way easier.

And someone got exposed for being a Nazi.

If you are still donating to KDE please consider cancelling and let the KDE devs know.

Wtf is happening?

A majority of KDE developers are determined to create an LLM policy that allows AI code submissions without any form of disclosure to "avoid shaming", and appear to be completely dismissing any ethical, environmental, or copyright concerns brought up.

I'm guessing the Nazi remark refers to this part?
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187#note_1648724

wtf is this guy

@vikingtons @Kiriko All of the "but I was so polite in this thread" reads like some "I'm not touching you" bullshit.

@vikingtons @Kiriko That link is returning 403 for me. I guess they locked it away hard.

@darkling @vikingtons @Kiriko huh, works here for me

Its pretty fucking crazy. Seems they also didn't really read the room in that thread aside from those tweets.

all in all, a rich tapestry of oof

I'm still able to see it here. Wonder if it's some CDN outage?

LLM usage

The golden rule for LLM usage in KDE is Don't be lazy:

Don't try to use a tool to replace your own judgment, interpersonal communication, or learning process.

Don't take unsustainable shortcuts.

Don't avoid growing as a person.

The result will be poor-quality work that eventually becomes someone else's problem.

Nobody in KDE should know if you use an LLM — not because you're concealing it, but because your usage of it produces output indistinguishable from what you could produce yourself. Contributions with obvious and lazy LLM usage may be ignored or closed.

Are we reading that same thing? Hardly seems like a pro LLM stance or the worst take that could be made.

DraftKings telling kids to gamble responsibly

I don’t get the fuss here. The KDE LLM policy is essentially the same as the Linux kernel. Aka human driven, human responsible, LLM assisted coding.

Unless you are running KDE on NetBSD you where already using LLM assisted code.

I don’t get the fuss here. The KDE LLM policy is essentially the same as the Linux kernel.

Psssst! Slop in the kernel is also bad

The first rule of holes always applies

@vikingtons @Kiriko 403 on my phone whether on phone network or wifi

huh, strange. I wasn't able to create a snapshot of the page, though it's probably for the best. nobody should have to see those tweets

Have you seen the quality of the code in the kernel? I am no c fan but the bar and standards are incredibly high.

The kernel is certainly LLM assisted but I don’t think any honest dev can look at say the recent LLM assisted code and call it slop. If anything the quality of Linux code has gotten higher over the past decade.

I am not a fan of vibe coded slop and I don’t think it’s fair to call the kernel slop.

Fuck off, no one asked you for your bad opinions.

it’s slop

hogher

Bristley? Invasive? Dangerous? Not kosher?

Typo fixed. I mean better.

Works for me. I wish it didn't. It's nasty.

Want me to copy-paste it? I would prefer not.

@lproven I'll forego it.

that’s great, thanks

link returns "Work item not found" for me; is it deleted?

Yes, they removed it from being viewed from the public due to the PR backlash it was generating. You can still read it on an archive site.