Would've been perfect with the disc version of the PS5.

My last Playstation was the PS4, there's not enough exclusive games on PS5 to make me buy it instead invest on my rig, also lots pf games who have been launched also runs on PS4, so it was meaningless anyway

My ps3 was my last PlayStation couldn't justify a ps4 and the ps5 was a nightmare for all the games releasing digital only (or having a disc that was effectively a drink coaster due to the game still needing downloaded in order to play)

I noticed the PS4 games took up way more hard drive space than the PS3 ones

I regret my ps4 and happy I opted out when ps5 came around. Xbox has been faffing about since the 360 era. Consoles are no longer relevant.

Had a PS4 but it collected dust while the Switch got all the play (docked, even).

I've been team Sony since the first PS. PS5 is my last.

I stopped at ps3. But when I worked at Activision, I learned that the ps5 was a great system to work on for development. It's too bad that they're fucking over consumers

Dude I'm not even into consoles/gaming but this dystopian blade runner capitalism shit hits home every day now.
Even frozen meals are becoming so tasteless/expensive I'm starting to wonder how decapitating someone will make it taste better.

Same trajectory for me. I’m actively avoiding all Sony products

Yea im kinda sad about it from nostalgia.

But fuck em.

My second DVD player, my second Blu-ray player, and I didn’t have that one but I had a PS1.

Can the design of the PS4 get some love? One of if not the coolest looking consoles ever. That and the GameCube. Never owned either but always admired the style.

I mean, given how hard the PS3 was to develop for I'd imagine Sony learned their lesson there.

Ps4 is my last computer/streaming device/jailbroken stealing machine...

I bought a ps4 for $20 in mint condition after being a die hard 360 player.

Its all linux from here, baybeee

Sony throws out the discs so they can make camera parts instead.

They sure are grateful of their customers.

The forced PlayStation plus for online was the final nail in the coffin for me.

Long live free PS3 multiplayer. The games are expensive already at $80.

My last one was PS4 and I regret buying it now. I had like 40 games for PS3 and I thought I would probably repeat with PS4 but and at the end of the day, I only was interested enough to get 9 games. I'm just way too into doing things on the PC now and there's just not enough exciting exclusive content to justify consoles for me.

Don’t you still need the disc for the license

I wonder how long Sony will even bother with the PlayStation. Nintendo had to merge its console and portable lines and Sony's big reason to have the line was to push its hardware standards.

Same, fuck Sony

Down with discless Sony.

I'm convinced that Sony and Microsoft formed an agreement to both enshittify. Sony dropped the ball but Microsoft isn't even trying to capitalise on that failure. Competition would usually immediately hit any signs of weakness but Microsoft isn't even doing it. From the looks of it, Microsoft is even doing their own mistakes alongside Sony.

What do you think of Nintendo nowadays?

Yes, but if/when Sony kills support for those systems the disc becomes a useless piece of plastic unless you have the entire game catalog installed. A ton of discs don't contain enough of the game data to be playable out of the box.

I would take a guess and say PS4 games took way more space than PS2 and PS1 as well.

It seems that games run more from the disc than say the PS3 hard drive.

PS3 is the last gaming console I can get behind, even if it wasn't perfect. Everything has been enshittified to all hell since then and I just can't any more. I actually bought a PS5, but the experience was just horrible. All the good things (the games boot up incredibly fast, I was actually amazed) were just drowned out by the negative aspects. I sold mine not long after. Never again. Tech is a living nightmare and nothing is exciting any more, just privacy violations and hostility to consumers. Nothing is worth it.

I picked up a used ps3 slim after my Xbox 360 red ringed, and it got some decent use as a netflix machine (back when that was cheap and still kinda new-ish) and a few games, but I noticed that I played damn few things on it overall, and beyond ratchet and clank and the first red dead, the exclusives didn't do much for me, so I sold it.

I didn't have a console for a long time afterward, over a decade. None of the newer options from Xbox or Sony appealed to me, especially with the requirement to pay a monthly fee to pay online (I only ever did a free trial of Xbox Live on my 360).

Then this year I picked up an old Wii with a balance board on a lark. Fuck me if it wasn't the best console I've ever owned.

Super easy to mod, tons of good emulators can run on it, wireless classic controllers are dirt cheap and feel great, tons of great exclusives, motion controls actually kick ass and feel fresh (resident evil 4 has been a blast with them), the balance board with Wii fit actually works great and is surprisingly unique and useful, it goes on.

Some may disagree, but honestly I think consoles peaked at the Wii, and its been downhill from there.

Some PS3 games where 20-40GB each. You didn’t see the file size since the game actually ran off the disc. For a console where the average system size was 160GB is was not enough.

Linux PC is the only option left

They don't care about the consumer market anymore. All the money in society moved to the top 10% and those are their customers now.

PS5 and series X are pretty much just standardised PCs as far as hardware is concerned and they're both full AMD setups to boot, I imagine it's much easier to develop console games now.

PS3 had a weird ass CPU architecture. Very hard to make use of efficiently because of specialised coprocessors IIRC.

Could at least have used the image of the PS5 with a disc drive in it...

You don't own your games on Steam either.

Realistically we need laws changing to catch up. Nobody, not even good old uncle Gabe, are going to give us the same rights we had with physical games.

I turned a refurbed gaming laptop into my last console. Runs nixos that boots straight into fullscreened gamescope -> steamos big picture ui. Best damn gaming srtup ive ever had

You might wanna refer to a psychiatrist

I actually ended up with a hierarchy of dev kits. I found the last gen kits to be miserable to work with, but the xbox dev sdk is pretty nice for both series and xbone. The PS5 is at the top for their suite of development tools. PS4 in comparison was horrific to use. PC with bnet was really good, but the build list could be overwhelming. There were times where different localization servers on the same server had different builds, it got very confusing at times

1. PS5
2. Battle.net
3. Xbox series
4. Xbox series retail
5. Xbox one
6. PS4

MS aren't trying to capitalise because they were already planning to do the same thing. Maybe for the fact they did it first, Sony are getting all the heat while the other players are sitting back waiting for it to blow over. And it will.

The fact is, most people don't want physical media. Even the people complaining aren't really complaining about physical media, they are complaining about buying a licence to software, which has been a thing longer than most people complaining have been alive.

Enshittification happens all over the world in almost every company. It isn't limited to those two console makers.

So i doubt they would need to form an agreement on this.

I own my GOG games though. Factorio, which I got straight from WUBE, I also own.

I understand there are different levels to the word "own".

Own them as in "I can play them even if that store is unavailable in the future" is one level.

Own them as in "I can trade/give them to others when I don't want them any more" is another.

One is not better than the other, and they're not mutually exclusive. But physical gives you both of them. Digital doesn't. Or not yet at least.

Digital is better then surely? I can give it to you and still have my original.

Ah, the good old days.

Most games on steam arent DRM, so nothing stops you from backing up all your games.

How much did the laptop cost you?

Support for Linux isn't support for Steam.

I saw there is an exploit to root the ps5 and I just might do it. I could run the new emulator on it.

I'm starting to wonder how decapitating someone will make it taste better.

Sorry wat. O.o

Was about 2000 usd brand new, which i think amounts to about 1000 bucks in good comdition now?

Its an acer nitro 5 an515-55, p nice specs for when it released (2016-2020 ish i think).

Actually my gf's old work machine (she does a lot of 3d modelling), we got a replacement free of charge because of manufacturing error regarding the battery, so its just been laying around. Perfect for this usecase as i just removed the battery, bypassing any funkiness in there.

So yeah lots of unknown variables there. If i had completely free choice id have gone with an amd gpu based machine. Muuuch less setup involved. The only real challenge in the setup was getting the nvidia gpu to play nice lol

sry for the infodump you triggered my 'special interest' trap card :P