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explodicle sh.itjust.works explodicle@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-11
#152 · Quote Reply

I didnt mention anything about the average number of occupants per home. What i did say was that, if 100 homes go from being rented to being sold, not all 100 homes will go to previous renters, for the reasons I mentioned above. Doesn't that make sense?

If the average number of occupants isn't changing, then cohabitation and second houses are irrelevant to this discussion.

To whom is the apartment being sold?

  • If it's another landlord, then supply and demand haven't changed.
  • If it's anyone's former tenant, then both supply and demand are reduced by 1 on average, so rentals don't get more expensive.

Perhaps you can find some statistics to back up your general point? If you're right, then we should see the opposite correlation - higher homeownership with higher rents.

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PokerChips programming.dev PokerChips@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#153 · Quote Reply

My neighbor has been trying to get their house rented after it didn't sell for 1.3million. Now they're paying the monthly mortgage for several months now. It doesn't seem like anyone is interested at practically $4000/month. Who would pay that mucho wonder. I bet the previous generation felt exactly the same as inflation was swallowing them into homelessness.... I.e. me, I could be underpaid an...

They didn't math right because 4000 matches a price point below 1.3 million. So they're selling themselves short on rent when they could have sold for the matching 7 out 8 hundred thousand dollar price point lol.

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altphoto lemmy.today altphoto@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-04-14
#154 · Quote Reply

My brother and sister-in-law were considering renting a house in that price range. The reason is that they were sending their two kids (1st and 3rd grade) to a private school with a $30K (each!) tuition, so paying around $4K per month for a house in a good school district would have actually saved them money. Eventually they came to their senses and just bought a house in a good school district...

I should do that! Just buy the darn place and quit gossiping about it. LOL... So not lol.

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HexesofVexes lemmy.world HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#155 · Quote Reply

So, this might not be the great news folks think it is...

I own a bunch of ancient freeholds ("peppercorn rents"), so I keep track mostly for folks looking to develop the land (I.e. buy the land off me).

Recently, a lot of rented houses got sold, and bought up by "property management" companies.

This appears to be a consolidation rather than a capitulation sadly. The properties are going under the umbrella of larger firms with better lawyers.

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frongt lemmy.zip frongt@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-31
#156 · Quote Reply

I must be used to American rightwing media because this Telegraph article seems downright neutral by comparison haha. Also, I have a question. It says that one of the things this bill does is abolish "fixed term tenancies". Does that mean, for example, that someone could just move in for a month and then move out?

Yeah the Telegraph is subtle about it. They exercise their bias more through selective reporting, rather than slanted language.

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frongt lemmy.zip frongt@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-31
#157 · Quote Reply

That's brain dead thinking they can sell any house at 1.3 millie. I hope that house sinks them.

Typical houses in my area start at $1m. Anything under that is a fixer-upper.

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frongt lemmy.zip frongt@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-31
#158 · Quote Reply

They... quit? So they're letting people buy the places people should live in without a middleman leech profiting off of them?

More likely to be property management companies, not individuals

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betanumerus lemmy.ca betanumerus@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-02-22
#159 · Quote Reply

"44,000 rentals have been sold" - No buyers tho! They're being sold to the great void! 🤣

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LaLuzDelSol lemmy.world LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-17
#160 · Quote Reply

If the average number of occupants isn't changing, then cohabitation and second houses are irrelevant to this discussion. To whom is the apartment being sold? If it's another landlord, then supply and demand haven't changed. If it's anyone's former tenant, then both supply and demand are reduced by 1 on average, so rentals don't get more expensive. Perhaps you can find some statistics to back u...

The average number of occupants doesn't change because everyone will still be living somewhere (excluding homelessness but we can ignore that). However, that does not mean cohabitation and second houses are irrelevant.

  • Some people who were previously cohabiting (not renting) will buy homes
  • Some people will buy second (or third, etc) houses.

Both of these scenarios are excluded from your example above. As a consequence of them, some renters will have to start cohabiting (or become homeless). The fact that there are more people who want to rent their (own) place then there are rental units will drive up rental prices.

https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/aer.20181289

Here you go.

Using a 1994 law change, we exploit quasi-experimental variation in
the assignment of rent control in San Francisco to study its impacts
on tenants and landlords. Leveraging new data tracking individuals’
migration, we find rent control limits renters’ mobility by 20 percent
and lowers displacement from San Francisco. Landlords treated by
rent control reduce rental housing supplies by 15 percent by selling to
owner-occupants and redeveloping buildings. Thus, while rent control prevents displacement of incumbent renters in the short run, the
lost rental housing supply likely drove up market rents in the long run,
ultimately undermining the goals of the law.

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Ismay programming.dev Ismay@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-10
#161 · Quote Reply

So, this might not be the great news folks think it is... I own a bunch of ancient freeholds ("peppercorn rents"), so I keep track mostly for folks looking to develop the land (I.e. buy the land off me). Recently, a lot of rented houses got sold, and bought up by "property management" companies. This appears to be a consolidation rather than a capitulation sadly. The properties are going under ...

We desperately need to forbid companies owning personal homes. Thus simply should not be possible for a business to own homes.

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Geldaran lemmy.world Geldaran@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#162 · Quote Reply

Good? Where did I leave the "Well, anyway" meme...

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explodicle sh.itjust.works explodicle@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-11
#163 · Quote Reply

The average number of occupants doesn't change because everyone will still be living somewhere (excluding homelessness but we can ignore that). However, that does not mean cohabitation and second houses are irrelevant. Some people who were previously cohabiting (not renting) will buy homes Some people will buy second (or third, etc) houses. Both of these scenarios are excluded from your example...

That's an interesting comparison, thanks! I'll think about this.

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LaLuzDelSol lemmy.world LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-17
#164 · Quote Reply

That's an interesting comparison, thanks! I'll think about this.

Cheers

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#165 · Quote Reply

So, this might not be the great news folks think it is... I own a bunch of ancient freeholds ("peppercorn rents"), so I keep track mostly for folks looking to develop the land (I.e. buy the land off me). Recently, a lot of rented houses got sold, and bought up by "property management" companies. This appears to be a consolidation rather than a capitulation sadly. The properties are going under ...

This appears to be a consolidation rather than a capitulation sadly.

Nothing new. Consolidation of property has been happening in England since the Enclosure Acts.

The Renter's Rights legislation is purely a scapegoat. Unless someone can explain how renter rights won't apply to property management firms, it remains an improvement overall.

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Artisian lemmy.world Artisian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#166 · Quote Reply

Could somebody post a high-information content version of this?

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Earthwormjim91 lemmy.world Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#167 · Quote Reply

"44,000 rentals have been sold" - No buyers tho! They're being sold to the great void! 🤣

They’re being sold to large corporations. Not normal people.

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Earthwormjim91 lemmy.world Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#168 · Quote Reply

They... quit? So they're letting people buy the places people should live in without a middleman leech profiting off of them?

No they’re just selling to bigger middlemen in property management corporations.

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Hawanja lemmy.world Hawanja@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-27
#169 · Quote Reply

Good, bye bye. Don't let the door hitcha ass on the way out. If you can't obey regulations then you shouldn't be in business.
There will still be tons of demand for housing, which means plenty of landlords will see that $$$$ and make it work.

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Ninjasftw lemmy.world Ninjasftw@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#170 · Quote Reply

This is not a reason to not protect renters. Ultimately we will need renters' unions and rent strikes to gain affordable housing, regardless of ownership.

It should but it wont.

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Son_of_Macha lemmy.cafe Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-05-24
#171 · Quote Reply

" quitting in droves" Selling their properties to people who want to live there

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adjectivenoun lemmy.world adjectivenoun@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-19
#172 · Quote Reply

prices would go down to affordable if renting was unprofitable. and even if you have to buy in, eventually you own the equity and even now with housing prices and interest rates high, it's still cheaper to pay a mortgage than rent and A LOT of renters are scum that won't even maintain your building.

I think you mean a lot of landlords are scum, and yeah I get it. There are people who switch jobs every 2-5 years to seek out the best raises. For them I think it makes perfect sense to rent. The fees to buy a house aren't cheap and not being tied down makes a lot of sense early in your career. I suppose you can buy a property, then move out and rent it to someone else, but that feels like circular problem if we're discussing putting an end to renting out single family homes.

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