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cice
lemmy.blahaj.zone
cice@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-09-23 |
Promotional Im not affiliated to Fermi/Harmony chat in any way, im just a user who liked it and want to share my experience of the app i find worthy of sharing
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hexagonwin
lemmy.today
hexagonwin@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-02-07 |
is this related to fosscord/spacebar? |
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tribut
infosec.pub
tribut@infosec.pub Joined: 2023-06-01 |
is this related to fosscord/spacebar?
Sounds like it... https://blog.fermi.chat/blog/2026/04/26/theFuture/ |
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cice
lemmy.blahaj.zone
cice@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-09-23 |
is this related to fosscord/spacebar?
its not spacebar but its related, fermi was once a spacebar client. but due to spacebar management and weird lies from them around AI (they were dismissive about AI usage). harmony was made (spacebar fork) with the goals of actually fixing the bugs and glitches and instances problems spacebar still have to this day. in short, spacebar refused to improve so harmony was made |
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nullroot
lemmy.world
nullroot@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-12 |
So it seems like this aims to be a drop in replacement for discord, essentially supporting the same API and clients, but with the ability to self host. Is that correct? |
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zlatko
programming.dev
zlatko@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-30 |
its not spacebar but its related, fermi was once a spacebar client. but due to spacebar management and weird lies from them around AI (they were dismissive about AI usage). harmony was made (spacebar fork) with the goals of actually fixing the bugs and glitches and instances problems spacebar still have to this day. in short, spacebar refused to improve so harmony was made
Do you know how does it compare to stoat.chat? I was looking to self host something recently, and landed on stoat.chat. |
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cice
lemmy.blahaj.zone
cice@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-09-23 |
So it seems like this aims to be a drop in replacement for discord, essentially supporting the same API and clients, but with the ability to self host. Is that correct?
its not 1 to 1 to discord but it was made to be compatible with discord. mostly to ease the process of migrating bots and automation, and being able to use discord client to connect to harmony. atm you can self host harmony but theres isnt a functional federation yet as it hasnt be coded yet. |
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cice
lemmy.blahaj.zone
cice@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-09-23 |
Do you know how does it compare to stoat.chat? I was looking to self host something recently, and landed on stoat.chat.
atm its kinda better than stoat since development doesnt take much time, unlike stoat, which are horribly slow to fix bugs and implement features, harmony have constant fixes and updates, also being open to any contributors unlike stoat which requires to apply to be able to contribute which is suspicious for a supposed open source software. also (kinda unrelated) harmony have better moderation than stoat which had pretty messed up things happens in the mod team plus them still enforcing OSA since they are in the uk. keep in mind federation isnt ready atm on harmony. heres the codeberg : https://codeberg.org/MelodyChat/Harmony |
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lemmyvore
feddit.nl
lemmyvore@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-15 |
atm its kinda better than stoat since development doesnt take much time, unlike stoat, which are horribly slow to fix bugs and implement features, harmony have constant fixes and updates, also being open to any contributors unlike stoat which requires to apply to be able to contribute which is suspicious for a supposed open source software. also (kinda unrelated) harmony have better moderation ...
They're doing it because they require a Developer Certificate of Origin from contributors in order to mitigate legal liability. Which is probably smart, it's good to cover your bases when you take on the likes of Discord, who would love to be given an opening to sue and/or obtain a cease & desist on copyright grounds. |
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cice
lemmy.blahaj.zone
cice@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-09-23 |
unlike stoat which requires to apply to be able to contribute which is suspicious for a supposed open source software. They're doing it because they require a Developer Certificate of Origin from contributors in order to mitigate legal liability. Which is probably smart, it's good to cover your bases when you take on the likes of Discord, who would love to be given an opening to sue and/or obta...
tho having to have a certificate does goes against FLOSS values. the goal isnt to make contributing elitist but that anyone can modify it. being scared of legal repercussions for code is like weird since the platform doesnt do illegal things and disallow misusage of the platform or code. any platform disallow to use their platform as a intermediary in a cyberattack. obviously. |
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KelvarCherry [They/Them]
piefed.blahaj.zone
KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-02-28 |
Thanks for shouting us out! I'm a member of the Harmony team and very proud of the community we've brought together We've got a wonderful place here, and we're gaining members every day ^_^ |
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Mathium05
piefed.blahaj.zone
Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-07-31 |
atm its kinda better than stoat since development doesnt take much time, unlike stoat, which are horribly slow to fix bugs and implement features, harmony have constant fixes and updates, also being open to any contributors unlike stoat which requires to apply to be able to contribute which is suspicious for a supposed open source software. also (kinda unrelated) harmony have better moderation ...
Did they go back on the CLA? I'd more readily point out their proprietary software on their gitlab, and their general lack of commitment to FOSS. They made a newly fully proprietary gif service and whatnot, which is just weird for an org promoting FOSS. |
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Mathium05
piefed.blahaj.zone
Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-07-31 |
Sounds like it... https://blog.fermi.chat/blog/2026/04/26/theFuture/
There are many places where we talk about it, that was a very hastily made post to sooth the community while we were trying to figure stuff out. https://melodychat.org/blog/melody-launch/ This is the post from Harmony, which has some more information, and was made with a bit more time |
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soyslurper2
lemmy.dbzer0.com
soyslurper2@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-08-29 |
tho having to have a certificate does goes against FLOSS values. the goal isnt to make contributing elitist but that anyone can modify it. being scared of legal repercussions for code is like weird since the platform doesnt do illegal things and disallow misusage of the platform or code. any platform disallow to use their platform as a intermediary in a cyberattack. obviously.
That's like saying the GPL goes against FLOSS because it's a "big spooky license" people have to read before contributing |
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