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technocrit lemmy.dbzer0.com technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Macklemore, Los Angeles, 2016.Whether it’s Macklemore, Hasan Piker, or your neighborhood activist, this is a fight to make sure billionaires and politicians cannot stop free speech and will have to hear the calls to “Free Palestine” whether they like it or not.

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Adubya feddit.online adubya@feddit.online
Joined: 2025-06-26
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Isn't the issue with Hasan Piker really about his association with some political candidates rather than his right to say those things? It comes down to opponents tying candidates to his rhetoric in guilt-by-association campaign ads, which outside groups can flood the airwaves with thanks to the atrocious Supreme Court rulings that protects unlimited campaign spending as free speech.

The Macklemore issue is more in the traditional Free speech realm. The more interesting angle there is how many of those mega-venues were funded through public-private partnerships. If taxpayers foot the bill for the construction and infrastructure, it raises the question of whether private operators should still have unilateral power to shut out artists over political speech.

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Sailor Anarres lemmy.dbzer0.com theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-22
#3 · Quote Reply

Disagree America doesn't "love free speech" when it challenges empire at all not just over Palestine.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#4 · Quote Reply

Does it?

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
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I just was amused at seeing these two posts next to each other. I think it's not just Palestine........ :)

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
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America loves free speech,

Lol! Since when?

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lama lemmy.world lama@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#7 · Quote Reply

When it comes to people of color in general, just look at how they cancelled Kaepernick

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-10-23
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Truly demonic Israel supremacist speech is the only one platformed on US media.

From the ocean to other sea America needs to be free of Israel first supremacist influence in order to be free. No American can ever have nice things if the purpose of America is to conduct Israel's wars.

Iran war was started for Israel, and it is Israel supremacists that support never ending it, and the ones who get platformed to Ziosplain it to you. There is significant risk of economic collapse, among most US colonies as well, at the moment. At just 7% (over 7.2% today) mortgage rates, Buying a home is 65% more expensive than renting in US, and there is an illusion of high home prices due to people not being able to afford leaving covid era refinancings. The imbalance is much higher than it was in 2006, and even if people aren't forced to sell, the rational move is to do so.

Israel first rule over America simply doesn't care about the sustainability of America. Can't afford healthcare, infrastructure, social support if oligarchist and zionist supremacism is the only speech allowed, and only Zionist wars must be paid for.

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FatVegan leminal.space FatVegan@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-11-05
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America loves free speech, Lol! Since when?

America love free speach. Well, no, not that. No. Not that. Nah. You can't say that. No, not that either.

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supersquirrel lemmy.ca supersquirrel@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-08-07
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Isn't the issue with Hasan Piker really about his association with some political candidates rather than his right to say those things? It comes down to opponents tying candidates to his rhetoric in guilt-by-association campaign ads, which outside groups can flood the airwaves with thanks to the atrocious Supreme Court rulings that protects unlimited campaign spending as free speech. The Mackle...

Hasan Piker's rhetoric is in line with how most American's feel, if you don't take him out of context I don't think any of his views are actually that extremist or hyper lefty, Hasan Piker is this generation's Bernie Sanders in many ways and it is endlessly hilarious to me THIS is who the establishment picked to pile on fearmongering about in order to police the left back into line with the center.

It ain't gonna work, I know everyone likes to derisively call Hasan Piker "just" a streamer, but he is extremely thoughtful, careful and nuanced in his points and nothing he has said that people can quote/clip out of context to look unacceptable is anything he hasn't apologized for and explained further.

One of the easiest defenses of Hasan Piker is simply that for all the benefit, power and increased access to the elite that he would get by "reaching across the isle" to join forces with rightwing anti-Israel figures like Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens, Hasan refuses to do so out of principle because he recognizes their opposition to Israel comes out of dumb hateful antisemitism not an actual genuine critique of the things driving the genocide in Israel that we are complicit in as well.

If Hasan Piker didn't give a shit he would see any enemy of Israel as a friend but that is not how he behaves at all.

If the center and establishment keep fearmongering about Hasan Piker it is going to keep spectacularly backfiring on them...

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-26
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America love free speach. Well, no, not that. No. Not that. Nah. You can't say that. No, not that either.

The thing about this is that literally every single other country is worse.

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Doomsider lemmy.world Doomsider@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#12 · Quote Reply

And feminism, human rights, socialism, equality, immigrantion, living wage, global warming, renewable energy, maternity leave, et cetera ad nauseum

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-22
#13 · Quote Reply

The thing about this is that literally every single other country is worse.

Whaat? No. You're allowed to say whatever you want about America in China!

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-26
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Whaat? No. You're allowed to say whatever you want about America in China!

As in America.

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cheat700000007 lemmy.world cheat700000007@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-14
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And data centers. And jury nullification.

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-22
#16 · Quote Reply

As in America.

My point was all the things you can't say in China, I'm not sure why you got downvoted.

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-26
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My point was all the things you can't say in China, I'm not sure why you got downvoted.

I got downvoted by people who have no idea how the U.S. works. It's almost like federalism and common law and our constitution are really robust.

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